Eberstein problem and Leo Lindemans

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Eberstein problem and Leo Lindemans

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 03 aug 2007 04:24:16

ES (Isenburg) Volume IV Tafel 133
Here is shown how Philipp Graf von Eberstein married (1) Jeanne de Bailleul (2) 20-1-1564 Katharina von Stolberg. Four daughters but no direct indication which one is the mother. However the marriage dates of the daughters (1596, 1601, 1600) implies the second wife.
Philipp has a younger brother Otto married to Felicitas Colonna von Vols who has no children recorded.

in the same volume Tafel 55 Katharina von Stolberg married 2-9-1566 to Philipp von Eberstein
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ES Schwennicke Volume XVII Tafel 100 (published in 1998)
Here Katharina von Stolberg marries (Kontrakt Wertheim 12) before 20 January 1566 Philipp Graf von Eberstein who died 11-9-1589

ES Schwennicke Volume XII Tafel 29 (published in 1992) covers the Counts von Eberstein and here
Philipp dies 11-9-1589 (so it must be the same Philipp) but he is married only once, to Johanna de Bailleul------and he has no (legitimate) children
but his brother Otto is now the father of the four daughters Isenburg had as daughters of Philipp
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Leo Lindemans in his book on the ancestors of King Baudouin of Belgium (published in 1991) gives
nr.9318 Philipp Graf von Eberstein
nr.9319 Katharina zu Stolberg

nr 4658 Christoph von Wolkenstein
nr.4659 Marie von Eberstein

In his book on the ancestors of King Albert II (published 1998) he repeats the same details.
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The question is very much : Who are the parents of those four sisters? Philipp and Katharina von Stolberg------- or Otto and Felicitas Colonna?

Does anyone know?

With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Henry Soszynski

Re: Eberstein problem and Leo Lindemans

Legg inn av Henry Soszynski » 04 aug 2007 00:27:50

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:24:16 +1000, "Leo van de Pas"
<leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:

ES (Isenburg) Volume IV Tafel 133
Here is shown how Philipp Graf von Eberstein married (1) Jeanne de Bailleul (2) 20-1-1564 Katharina von Stolberg. Four daughters but no direct indication which one is the mother. However the marriage dates of the daughters (1596, 1601, 1600) implies the second wife.
Philipp has a younger brother Otto married to Felicitas Colonna von Vols who has no children recorded.

in the same volume Tafel 55 Katharina von Stolberg married 2-9-1566 to Philipp von Eberstein
------------------------------------------------------------------------
ES Schwennicke Volume XVII Tafel 100 (published in 1998)
Here Katharina von Stolberg marries (Kontrakt Wertheim 12) before 20 January 1566 Philipp Graf von Eberstein who died 11-9-1589

ES Schwennicke Volume XII Tafel 29 (published in 1992) covers the Counts von Eberstein and here
Philipp dies 11-9-1589 (so it must be the same Philipp) but he is married only once, to Johanna de Bailleul------and he has no (legitimate) children
but his brother Otto is now the father of the four daughters Isenburg had as daughters of Philipp
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Leo Lindemans in his book on the ancestors of King Baudouin of Belgium (published in 1991) gives
nr.9318 Philipp Graf von Eberstein
nr.9319 Katharina zu Stolberg

nr 4658 Christoph von Wolkenstein
nr.4659 Marie von Eberstein

In his book on the ancestors of King Albert II (published 1998) he repeats the same details.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The question is very much : Who are the parents of those four sisters? Philipp and Katharina von Stolberg------- or Otto and Felicitas Colonna?

Does anyone know?

With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Thanks for highlighting this Leo. I can't help as my database gives
the same four daughters to both brothers!? I note that Sibylla, had a
son named Otto and a daughter named Felicitas. Hopefully someone
might have better info (though I doubt it).
Cheers,
Henry Soszynski

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