Cotton of Lanwade

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Cotton of Lanwade

Legg inn av WJhonson » 03 aug 2007 01:04:37

In the church of Lanwade there is an inscription for Sir John Cotton, Knt of Lanwade, co Cambrige (not Landward as stirnet).

From this we learn that he died 21 Apr 1593 in his 81st year, while his wife Isabel Spencer died 2 Nov 1578 in her 63rd year.

We also learn that of his five daughters, three outlived him and were Alice Cotton wife of Sir Thomas Revett (about whom I know nothing but wish to); Anne Cotton who married Anthony Roper, Esq (would he be of Eltham and Well Hall ?); and Frances Cotton who married Thomas Andrewe (or Andrews or Andros), Esq

We know this Thomas Andrewe, he was heir of his father, he was Esq by 1566, he was of Charwelton, Northants, he was yet living in 1581, he has a Wall Tablet at Charwelton, he was the son of Sir Thomas Andrewe by his wife Catharine Cave.

Frances Cotton was his first wife and she d.s.p. ob 12 Jan 1567; whereupon he married secondly Mary Isham, dau of Gregory Isham, Esq of Braunston, Northants and had at least or exactly two sons Eusebius and Thomas. Mary Isham ob 4 Apr 1589; Eusebius married Anne Knightley and had a number of children between 1608 and 1613 at least, untraced.

This linked reference states that "round the cornice are the following shields", the interesting one is shield I quarterly of six giving Cotton, Abbott, Sharpe, Calverley, FitzSymon and Bagot in that order

I had known that this Sir John Cotton's paternal grandmother was Joan Sharpe but had not known until today that the Sharpe family had arms. Similarly I had known that Joan's mother-in-law was Alice Abbott but had not known that the Abbott family had arms.

I cannot account for the Calverly, FitzSymon or Bagot entries, but perhaps they could relate to the ancestry of John's mother Dorothy Clere.

Can anyone fill in the missing data?

Will Johnson

Gjest

Re: Cotton of Lanwade

Legg inn av Gjest » 03 aug 2007 07:36:27

On 3 Aug., 01:04, WJhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
This linked reference states that "round the cornice are the following shields", the interesting one is shield I quarterly of six giving Cotton, Abbott, Sharpe, Calverley, FitzSymon and Bagot in that order

I had known that this Sir John Cotton's paternal grandmother was Joan Sharpe but had not known until today that the Sharpe family had arms. Similarly I had known that Joan's mother-in-law was Alice Abbott but had not known that the Abbott family had arms.

I cannot account for the Calverly, FitzSymon or Bagot entries, but perhaps they could relate to the ancestry of John's mother Dorothy Clere.

Will

If the remaining quarters related to the Clere family, then they
should only be displayed if the Clere arms are brought in first. Each
quartering too will only be displayed if they represent a marriage to
an heiress - i.e. it is telling us that both Alice Abbott and then
Joan Sharpe were heiresses. (Was Dorothy Clere an heiress?) It is
more likely that the remaining quarters (Calverley, FitzSymon and
Bagot) have been "brought in" by Sharpe, and therefore represent
earlier generations of Joan Sharpe's family.

Cheers, Michael

Don Stone

Re: Cotton of Lanwade

Legg inn av Don Stone » 03 aug 2007 14:25:44

mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
On 3 Aug., 01:04, WJhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
This linked reference states that "round the cornice are the following shields", the interesting one is shield I quarterly of six giving Cotton, Abbott, Sharpe, Calverley, FitzSymon and Bagot in that order

I had known that this Sir John Cotton's paternal grandmother was Joan Sharpe but had not known until today that the Sharpe family had arms. Similarly I had known that Joan's mother-in-law was Alice Abbott but had not known that the Abbott family had arms.

I cannot account for the Calverly, FitzSymon or Bagot entries, but perhaps they could relate to the ancestry of John's mother Dorothy Clere.

Will

If the remaining quarters related to the Clere family, then they
should only be displayed if the Clere arms are brought in first. Each
quartering too will only be displayed if they represent a marriage to
an heiress - i.e. it is telling us that both Alice Abbott and then
Joan Sharpe were heiresses. (Was Dorothy Clere an heiress?) It is
more likely that the remaining quarters (Calverley, FitzSymon and
Bagot) have been "brought in" by Sharpe, and therefore represent
earlier generations of Joan Sharpe's family.

Cheers, Michael

Sir Robert Cotton, son of Thomas Cotton and Joan Sharpe, appears in the
Visitations of Cambridgeshire, 1575/1619 (Harleian Soc. Pub., vol. 41),
pp. 21-22, and further information is in the Vis. of Essex, 1558 (HSP,
vol. 13), pp. 100-101. Here is some of his ancestry, as given in these
sources (view with fixed-width font):

John Fitz-Simond = Maude, dau. & heir of Rauffe Baghott
|____________
|
Thomas Staunton of Essex = Katherin, dau. & heir of John Fitz-Simond
|________
|
John Sharpe of Mauldon, Essex = Jane, dau. & coheir of Thomas Staunton
_________________________|
|
Nicholas Sharpe = Agnes Tirrell
|__
|
Thomas Cotton, = Joane, dau. & heir of Nic. Sharpe, 2nd wife
d. 1499 |
_________|
|
Sir Robert Cotton, d. 1519.

The above Sir Robert Cotton quartered the arms of Sharpe, Stanton, Fitz
Simon and Bagot.

-- Don Stone

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Cotton of Lanwade

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 03 aug 2007 17:31:08

Any tie-in to Cotton Mather, the Harvard and Boston divine?

DSH

"Don Stone" <don.stone@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:s1Gsi.2$V53.1@trnddc08...
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:

Sir Robert Cotton, son of Thomas Cotton and Joan Sharpe, appears in the
Visitations of Cambridgeshire, 1575/1619 (Harleian Soc. Pub., vol. 41),
pp. 21-22, and further information is in the Vis. of Essex, 1558 (HSP,
vol. 13), pp. 100-101. Here is some of his ancestry, as given in these
sources (view with fixed-width font):

John Fitz-Simond = Maude, dau. & heir of Rauffe Baghott
|____________
|
Thomas Staunton of Essex = Katherin, dau. & heir of John Fitz-Simond
|________
|
John Sharpe of Mauldon, Essex = Jane, dau. & coheir of Thomas Staunton
_________________________|
|
Nicholas Sharpe = Agnes Tirrell
|__
|
Thomas Cotton, = Joane, dau. & heir of Nic. Sharpe, 2nd wife
d. 1499 |
_________|
|
Sir Robert Cotton, d. 1519.

The above Sir Robert Cotton quartered the arms of Sharpe, Stanton, Fitz
Simon and Bagot.

-- Don Stone

wjhonson

Re: Cotton of Lanwade

Legg inn av wjhonson » 14 aug 2007 03:23:03

J C B Sharp quite rightly alerted me that my "linked reference" did
not show up at all. Some hopefully corrected peculiarly in the Gen-
Medieval list.

I'm posting directly to Google Groups to see if that corrects it now.

The link that shows the shields for this John Cotton of Landwade is

http://books.google.com/books?id=jxgjAA ... #PPA343,M1

"The East Anglian: Or Note and Queries...", by Charles Harold Evelyn
White
Oct 1858, page 343

Where in an article called "Landwade and the Cottons" the author is
describing the "...sumptuous canopied tomb of Sir John Cotton, Knt,
1593, and Isabel his wife, daughter of Sir William Spencer of
Althorpe, Northants."


Will Johnson

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