Today I was in Cambridgeshire, and visited Wimpole Hall.
Now one of the jewels of the National Trust, between 1428 and 1686 it
was the seat of the Chicheley family, whose fortune was founded by
Henry, Archbishop of Canterbury. Various listers have Chicheley
descents.
Little of the estate from their time remains, but in the church of St
Andrew, which stands next to the Hall, in the aisle that anciently
served as their burial place, the tomb of Sir Thomas Chicheley (c1578
- 1616). There are also a couple of earlier brasses, the most
prominent of which was to Thomas Worsley, a priest who died circa
1501.
I did take some photographs which I am happy to share, but note there
is an excellent illustrated website on the Chicheley Chapel here:
http://www.wimpole.info/chapel.htm
I also photographed the impressive 14th century window with its
heraldic shields for many local families, including de Ufford, Bohun
and Engaine.
MA-R
Chicheleys of Wimpole Hall, Cambs
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WJhonson
Re: Chicheleys of Wimpole Hall, Cambs
Does the tomb indicate his exact death date and/or age at death?
Thanks
Will Johnson
In a message dated 08/01/07 09:57:11 Pacific Standard Time, mjcar@btinternet.com writes:
Today I was in Cambridgeshire, and visited Wimpole Hall.
Now one of the jewels of the National Trust, between 1428 and 1686 it
was the seat of the Chicheley family, whose fortune was founded by
Henry, Archbishop of Canterbury. Various listers have Chicheley
descents.
Little of the estate from their time remains, but in the church of St
Andrew, which stands next to the Hall, in the aisle that anciently
served as their burial place, the tomb of Sir Thomas Chicheley (c1578
- 1616). There are also a couple of earlier brasses, the most
prominent of which was to Thomas Worsley, a priest who died circa
1501.
I did take some photographs which I am happy to share, but note there
is an excellent illustrated website on the Chicheley Chapel here:
http://www.wimpole.info/chapel.htm
I also photographed the impressive 14th century window with its
heraldic shields for many local families, including de Ufford, Bohun
and Engaine.
MA-R
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Thanks
Will Johnson
In a message dated 08/01/07 09:57:11 Pacific Standard Time, mjcar@btinternet.com writes:
Today I was in Cambridgeshire, and visited Wimpole Hall.
Now one of the jewels of the National Trust, between 1428 and 1686 it
was the seat of the Chicheley family, whose fortune was founded by
Henry, Archbishop of Canterbury. Various listers have Chicheley
descents.
Little of the estate from their time remains, but in the church of St
Andrew, which stands next to the Hall, in the aisle that anciently
served as their burial place, the tomb of Sir Thomas Chicheley (c1578
- 1616). There are also a couple of earlier brasses, the most
prominent of which was to Thomas Worsley, a priest who died circa
1501.
I did take some photographs which I am happy to share, but note there
is an excellent illustrated website on the Chicheley Chapel here:
http://www.wimpole.info/chapel.htm
I also photographed the impressive 14th century window with its
heraldic shields for many local families, including de Ufford, Bohun
and Engaine.
MA-R
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Gjest
Re: Chicheleys of Wimpole Hall, Cambs
On 2 Aug., 01:35, WJhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
In fact, we can both go one better, and access the transcribed parish
registers online here:
http://www.wimpole.info/baptisms_1560.htm
which states Thomas Chicheley was born 12 April 1578.
MA-R
In a message dated 08/01/07 17:30:36 Pacific Standard Time, WJhonson writes:
Does the tomb indicate his exact death date and/or age at death?
Thanks
Will Johnson
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Ask and ye shall receive Will.
Go herehttp://www.wimpole.info/chapel.htm
look for the special bonus guest star....
In fact, we can both go one better, and access the transcribed parish
registers online here:
http://www.wimpole.info/baptisms_1560.htm
which states Thomas Chicheley was born 12 April 1578.
MA-R
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Gjest
Re: Chicheleys of Wimpole Hall, Cambs
On 2 Aug., 21:55, WJhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
Will
You are right: Clement Chicheley married Mary Hynde in 1548/9. Her
father, Sir John, has an entry in the ODNB. They were not the parents
of Thomas Chicheley (1578-1616) but his grandparents; he was the son
of their son Thomas. They also had a daughter Ursula, married to
Robert Pakenham of Belton, Lincs, who were in turn the parents of Sir
Henry Pakenham and Clement Pakenham (they both died without issue).
Clement's mother seems to have been Elizabeth Docwra, although as you
note she is called Frances in the Chicheley pedigree in Vis. Cambs.
She was the daughter of James Docwra and Catherine Haselden, and the
sister of John Docwra, whose great-granddaughter Jane Docwra married
Sir Henry Pakenham (supra), her third cousin.
The Hyndes were indeed seated at Madingley.
Please let me know if you would like additional details.
Regards, Michael
In a message dated 08/02/07 00:20:29 Pacific Standard Time, mj...@btinternet.com writes:http://www.wimpole.info/baptisms_1560.htm
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Thank you for that, it does help and I'll probably be scouring this list a few times to see what I can.
Dorothy Kempe the wife of that Sir Thomas Chicheley, Knt of Wimpole (not Whimple), herself has a Cecil number of 5, so I'm interested in the details of the Chicheley's of Wimpole now.
I presume that the parents of Thomas, although not stated here, must be that Clement Chicheley of Wimpole and his wife Mary Hynd who I had had, with rather vague dates in my database already.
I can see the names Clement and Mrs Mary Chicheley often appear in the baptismal register as godparents, but this 1578 is their first child listed there.
If we presume that all the instances of "Mrs Mary Chicheley" apply to the same woman then Clement must have married her BY 1560. It's a little difficult to believe that it took them 18 years of marriage to have their first child.
Clement's mother's name is given variously as Elizabeth or Frances so she's out (it would seem), and his Chicheley grandmother as Alice (Bruges).
I assume that perhaps that Francis Hynd godfather must be this Sir Thomas' uncle as his mother is given as Mary Hynd.
I also note that Clement vanishes as a godparent, with his last such entry in 1572 and Mr Thomas Chicheley appears, so it's quite possible that this Mr Thomas is a son of Clement and Mary and the one baptised in 1578 is the *son* of Mr Thomas, therefore a grandson of Mary Hynde.
Will Johnson
Will
You are right: Clement Chicheley married Mary Hynde in 1548/9. Her
father, Sir John, has an entry in the ODNB. They were not the parents
of Thomas Chicheley (1578-1616) but his grandparents; he was the son
of their son Thomas. They also had a daughter Ursula, married to
Robert Pakenham of Belton, Lincs, who were in turn the parents of Sir
Henry Pakenham and Clement Pakenham (they both died without issue).
Clement's mother seems to have been Elizabeth Docwra, although as you
note she is called Frances in the Chicheley pedigree in Vis. Cambs.
She was the daughter of James Docwra and Catherine Haselden, and the
sister of John Docwra, whose great-granddaughter Jane Docwra married
Sir Henry Pakenham (supra), her third cousin.
The Hyndes were indeed seated at Madingley.
Please let me know if you would like additional details.
Regards, Michael