More on Camilla's ancestors John Wray married Grizzell Bethe

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More on Camilla's ancestors John Wray married Grizzell Bethe

Legg inn av WJhonson » 10 jul 2007 01:26:19

Here at W.A.R's page on the ancestry of Camilla, we see at 7834 and 7835
http://www.wargs.com/royal/camilla.html

the couple John Wray 2nd Bart and his wife Grizel Bethell.

Although John is given a baptismal date and they are given a marriage date, nothing is said about Grizel's possible age there. I have Grizel, by the way, as a 14th generation descendent of Scottish royalty maybe someone has a shorter path.

In mousing around, I happened to want to satisfy a few objectives in constraining the age that Grizel could be. The baptisms of 8 children of John are online in the extracted IGI beginning with Frances Wray on 29 Dec 1611 at Blyton, Lincs. (who m John Hotham and bur 23 Dec 1635 at Glentworth) and ending with the very helpfully named *Bethel* Wray (a male) on 30 Jan 1632 at Blyton as well.

The couple tried to deceive me by having a number of children bap at Blyton and then a large gap and then Bethel but I was too clever for them.

Poking this way and that I happened to stumble on the intermediate children being bap at Glentworth, which makes sense for this family as they had connections there as well.

It is a bit curious the remaining 7 and 1/2 year gap from Theophilus to Bethel but at least it's possible. This new information allows us to constrain Grizel's birthrange to 1584/1597.

That is, she was at least 13 when she first became pregnant and at most 48 when she last did.

Frances Wray 29 Dec 1611 Blyton (she m John Hotham and bur 1635)
William Wray 25 Oct 1613 Blyton
Elizabeth Wray 20 Aug 1615 Blyton
Anne Wray 16 Apr 1617 Blyton
John Wray 21 Sep 1619 Glentworth (he became 3rd Bart, m Elizabeth Willoughby)
Christopher Wray 29 Mar 1621 Glentworth
Theophilus Wray 8 Jul 1624 Glentworth
Bethel Wray 30 Jan 1632 Blyton


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