Fw: Whitney article in October TAG

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Fw: Whitney article in October TAG

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 27 jun 2007 00:20:25

See generation 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathaniel Taylor" <nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Whitney article in October TAG


In article <1182871630.713662.151820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"mhollick@mac.com" <mhollick@mac.com> wrote:

If the Whitney article holds up, then a tentative royal line can be
now established for John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.

1 King Henry II of England aka: "Curtmantel" ref #: F222:17 1133 -
1189
+ aka: Countess Ida ref #: (see notes)
2 Sir William Longespee aka: Earl of Salisbury; Named in Magna Charta
ref #: W142-1 1176 - 1225/26
+Ela FitzWilliam aka: Ela de Salisbury ref #: ?108-28 1189 - 1261
3 Ida Longespee aka: Idonea de Longespee ref #: W142-2 - 1265
+William de Beauchamp aka: Lord Beauchamp of Bedford ref #: (?184A-9)
1185 - 1260
4 Beatrice de Beauchamp ref #: ?122A-30 - 1281
+Sir Thomas FitzOtho aka: Thomas FitzOates ref #: (?216-29) 1231 -
1274
5 Maud FitzThomas aka: Matilda FitzOtho ref #: ?122A-31 - 1329
+Adm. Sir John de Botetourte aka: 1st Lord Botetourte ref #: ?216-29
1265 - 1324
6 Ada de Botetourt
+Sir John de St. Philbert aka: Knt. ref #: (W131-8)
7 Maud de St. Philbert ref #: (W131-8)
+Sir Warin Trussell ref #: W131-8
----------------In the Lineage book of the descendants of the illegitimate

sons and daughters of the kings of Great Britain, page 2
Sir Warin was father by NN Stafford (not Maud de St.Philbert) which breaks
the line.

PA by Douglas Richardson, page 718 however confirms Maud de St.Philibert as
mother of 8.Sir Lawrence



8 Sir Lawrence Trussell ref #: W131-9
+Maud Charnells ref #: (?150-34)
9 Sir William Trussell aka: Lord of Elmesthorpe ref #: W131-10 - 1464
+Margery Ludlow ref #: W111-9 - 1447

The problem generation is next: Was she a Trussell or Russell?

10 Jennet Trussell/Russell m. Sir Eustace Whitney
11. Sir Robert Whitney m. (2) Elizabeth Vaughn
12. Robert Whitney m. NN
13. Robert Whitney m. Elizabeth ap Morgan
14. Thomas Whitney m. Mary Bray
15. John Whitney of Watertown, Mass.

Fascinating. I haven't got this TAG yet. Another potential medieval
line for my children. Thomas & Mary (Bray) Whitney were long known to
be the parents of the immigrant, but Thomas' parentage had been subject
to both fraud & wishful thinking in earlier publications. In a
nutshell, what's the evidence for the line down from Sir Eustace Whitney
to this Thomas?

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

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