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Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their Supp

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 18 jun 2007 20:14:57

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

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Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

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dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 18 jun 2007 21:24:48

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml



Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite, a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling
her soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not
work. Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She
has the support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but
not the Left, and the Right hates her.

J Antero

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av J Antero » 18 jun 2007 22:40:45

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 18 jun 2007 23:14:57

J Antero wrote:

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not the
Left, and the Right hates her.


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.

Ray O'Hara

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Ray O'Hara » 19 jun 2007 00:29:46

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml




all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you complain when
they don't support hilary.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 19 jun 2007 04:41:03

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

J Antero

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av J Antero » 19 jun 2007 04:56:29

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 19 jun 2007 05:21:10

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.

I'm not the fool who dreams of empting the cities.

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 19 jun 2007 06:30:16

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.


I'm not the fool who dreams of empting the cities.


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

Obviously, J Antero has little tolerance for one, critical of the Lady
in Waiting to be crowned the next president. Hillary reminds me of Bush
The Lesser. He was, just as Hillary, selected well before 2000 as the
next Ruler of the plebeians by the Court of the Oligarchy.

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 19 jun 2007 13:45:12

"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Jun 18, 7:29 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <mary.palmu...@rcn.com> wrote:
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

- nilita

TMOliver

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av TMOliver » 19 jun 2007 15:14:50

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote ...
J Antero wrote:


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.


I see that dapra and antero have a common perspective of what's good for
mankind, a vision straight out of the Pol Pot school of demography.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 19 jun 2007 15:20:31

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.


I'm not the fool who dreams of empting the cities.


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.


Obviously, J Antero has little tolerance for one, critical of the Lady
in Waiting to be crowned the next president. Hillary reminds me of Bush
The Lesser. He was, just as Hillary, selected well before 2000 as the
next Ruler of the plebeians by the Court of the Oligarchy.


--
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 19 jun 2007 15:21:45

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.
Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 19 jun 2007 15:47:05

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"D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote in
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?

It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside her
mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based on ...
their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she has
"craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection" here
.....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?

- nilita

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 19 jun 2007 15:52:12

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?


It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside
her mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based
on ... their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she
has "craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection"
here ....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita

William Black

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av William Black » 19 jun 2007 16:12:51

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"D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote in
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 19 jun 2007 18:00:31

La N wrote:
[...]

btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

Ray O'Hara

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Ray O'Hara » 19 jun 2007 19:55:11

"TMOliver" <tmoliverjrFIX@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote in message
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"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote ...
J Antero wrote:


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past.
Empty
the cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will
be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.


I see that dapra and antero have a common perspective of what's good for
mankind, a vision straight out of the Pol Pot school of demography.




you see that because you are willfully being stupid.

Ray O'Hara

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Ray O'Hara » 19 jun 2007 19:58:54

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It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside
her
mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based on
....
their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she has
"craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection" here
....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?

- nilita




what fixette wants is anothe born again drunken cokehead who talks to jesus
puppet.

they fear hillary because they fear women in general.

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 19 jun 2007 20:03:18

TMOliver wrote:

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote ...

J Antero wrote:


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.



I see that dapra and antero have a common perspective of what's good for
mankind, a vision straight out of the Pol Pot school of demography.



Any problem with reading comprehension?

J Antero's comment was a sarcastic one, suggesting that because I don't
like Hillary being the front woman of the corporate oligarchy, I must be
Maoist. Of course I rejected it. And naturally, you did not get the
meaning of either posts.

TMOliver

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av TMOliver » 19 jun 2007 21:49:52

Your awareness of irony is considerably less than your expectations
thereof....

But that's to be expected.

Of course, it provides great pleasure to ready you and Ray in amutual fuss.
Talk about two fleas floating on the backs down a big river, jacking off and
calling for the draw bridges to be raised....

TMO

J Antero

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av J Antero » 19 jun 2007 22:59:39

"TMOliver" <tmoliverjrFIX@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote in message
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"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote ...
J Antero wrote:


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.


I see that dapra and antero have a common perspective of what's good for
mankind, a vision straight out of the Pol Pot school of demography.

As revealed in previous threads, you have all the wit of a high school
drop-out.

J Antero

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av J Antero » 19 jun 2007 23:00:50

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling
her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not
work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has
the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past.
Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will
be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.

I'm not the fool who dreams of empting the cities.


Every time you post, you demonstrate just how ill equipped and clueless you
are.

An analogy to your mind would be a comic book published by a Rush Limbaugh
Industries subsidiary...

"Tankfixer" - stick to your plumbing specialty..

Colin Campbell

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Colin Campbell » 20 jun 2007 02:19:48

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m>
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.



--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:10:50

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?

So drop the word ethical.
She has already demonstrated her's are somewhat flexible.

It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside her
mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based on ...
their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she has
"craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection" here

Study the lady a bit.
You will see what I mean. If you care to anyway.
If you wish to remain blind to it so be it.



Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?

I'm in favor of a random lottery of registered voters over the age of
36...


--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:11:11

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mumbled
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mumbled

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"D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote in
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?


It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside
her mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based
on ... their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she
has "craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection"
here ....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

And you became a shrink, when ?



--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:13:32

In article <v_WdnUUJeYwNluXbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net mumbled
La N wrote:
[...]


btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:16:03

In article <FP2dnSaIut3tuuXbnZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@rcn.net>,
mary.palmucci@rcn.com mumbled
"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting inside
her
mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others based on
...
their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that she has
"craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at "projection" here
....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the job?

- nilita




what fixette wants is anothe born again drunken cokehead who talks to jesus
puppet.

Nothing like open hatred is there Ray.

they fear hillary because they fear women in general.

Just becuase you do doesn't mean real men do.


--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:17:44

In article <TnSdi.1330$H61.1059@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
william.black@hotmail.co.uk mumbled
"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Jun 18, 7:29 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <mary.palmu...@rcn.com> wrote:
"D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote in
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:18:15

In article <6K6dnfEl_oIMu-XbnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d@rcn.net>,
mary.palmucci@rcn.com mumbled
"TMOliver" <tmoliverjrFIX@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote in message
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"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote ...
J Antero wrote:


What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past.
Empty
the cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will
be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...


I don't think I advocated Maoism. You must be able to make a difference
between Maoism and naked Capitalist exploitation. There are other shades
in the spectrum of social order.


I see that dapra and antero have a common perspective of what's good for
mankind, a vision straight out of the Pol Pot school of demography.

you see that because you are willfully being stupid.

Well, you are the Stupid expert around here...

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 20 jun 2007 04:19:17

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First
Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss
the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?


It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since
the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting
inside
her mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others
based
on ... their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that
she
has "craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at
"projection"
here ....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the
job?



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations,
assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same
game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's
all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

And you became a shrink, when ?


It is *you* playing the shrink by attributing motives and pretending to be
inside the mind of one Hillary Clinton.

And, btw, one doesn't have to be a shrink to see that you are playing the
same game as dapra. Just on opposite wings, if you will.

Why don't you come right out and say you just downright hate Hillary.
Otherwise, the accusations you make about her, the motives you attribute to
her, etc. say more about you than about her. Because, believe it or not,
there are lots and lots of people who *like* her for positive motives they
attribute to her. Are they right and you are wrong?

Bottom line. Obviously you are frightened of her because she has a good run
at the Presidency. Fair enough.

I don't think she would be *my* first choice. But, I sure as hell ain't
gonna make wild ass statements about someone's supposed hidden agenda and
motives, unless I've had a heart-to-heart discussion with her personally.

- nilita

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 04:19:36

In article <r40h7318grmgraleg1kdgogouibmqp951e@4ax.com>, activated_
95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


--
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diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 20 jun 2007 04:21:51

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message
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In article <r40h7318grmgraleg1kdgogouibmqp951e@4ax.com>, activated_
95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


Stupid blanket statement by a right wingnut.

- nilita

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 20 jun 2007 04:30:01

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95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society
will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


Stupid blanket statement by a right wingnut.



And btw, since you are one of the few remaining hardcore Bush fans, who do
you think is capable of filling his magnificent shoes as the next POTUS?

- nilita, who is about jaded from reading your ad infinitum ad nauseum
multi-year flame wars with letoured and think you have lost perspective and
the ability to debate intelligently ....

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 06:24:53

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First
Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss
the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?


I'm curious why so many women(and men) think she is some great ethical
savior ?

"ethical savior"? Really? Do you have a cite on this?


It is fairly obvious that the woman has craved being president since
the
1970's.

Really? Have you been living with her, talking with her, getting
inside
her mind? I have trouble with people attributing motives to others
based
on ... their own prejudices. Unless she has explicitly stated that
she
has "craved being president since 1970's", we are looking at
"projection"
here ....


Do we really want to elect someone who craves that job so badly ?


Do you want to elect someone who's only half-assed interested in the
job?



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations,
assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same
game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's
all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

And you became a shrink, when ?


It is *you* playing the shrink by attributing motives and pretending to be
inside the mind of one Hillary Clinton.

IIRC she has said in the past, "we are the president"



And, btw, one doesn't have to be a shrink to see that you are playing the
same game as dapra. Just on opposite wings, if you will.

Why don't you come right out and say you just downright hate Hillary.

Hate ?
I don't KNOW the lady.
For all I know she and Bill are charming guests at a BBQ.


Otherwise, the accusations you make about her, the motives you attribute to
her, etc. say more about you than about her. Because, believe it or not,
there are lots and lots of people who *like* her for positive motives they
attribute to her. Are they right and you are wrong?

Lots of people "like" her because she tells them things they want to
hear.
Like any politicain you will say. And that's true.



Bottom line. Obviously you are frightened of her because she has a good run
at the Presidency. Fair enough.

IMHO she won't make it out of the primaries and Mr Obama will be the
candidate.

I don't think she would be *my* first choice. But, I sure as hell ain't
gonna make wild ass statements about someone's supposed hidden agenda and
motives, unless I've had a heart-to-heart discussion with her personally.

All most voters get are a candidates own statements, and actions.



--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 06:24:55

In article <j31ei.3427$tB5.1582@edtnps90>, nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com
mumbled
"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message
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95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


Stupid blanket statement by a right wingnut.

Thank you for proving my point.

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diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 06:24:56

In article <Za1ei.3432$tB5.2736@edtnps90>, nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com
mumbled
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95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society
will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


Stupid blanket statement by a right wingnut.



And btw, since you are one of the few remaining hardcore Bush fans, who do
you think is capable of filling his magnificent shoes as the next POTUS?

Now who is assigning motives to someone ?

Richardson might do a fine job.
But he won't get out of the primaries because the Queen apparent would
unleash Serpent Head loose on him if he came close.



- nilita, who is about jaded from reading your ad infinitum ad nauseum
multi-year flame wars with letoured and think you have lost perspective and
the ability to debate intelligently ....

He is but a chew toy to kick around.


--
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diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

redc1c4

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av redc1c4 » 20 jun 2007 07:21:59

Tankfixer wrote:
In article <j31ei.3427$tB5.1582@edtnps90>, nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com
mumbled

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message
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95b@earthlink.net mumbled
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:20:31 GMT, Tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.army.m
wrote:


You did not pick up the clue; "..people unfit for the new society will
be dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses..." Sarcasm!

I understood that sarcasm was meant.
The peoples of Cambodia would not agree with you.

Nor would they think of this as funny.

Liberals rarely care about the feelings of others...


Stupid blanket statement by a right wingnut.

Thank you for proving my point.

they "care" about them in only a general fashion, a sorta "big picture"
caring, but deep down, they give less than a damn for the individual,
especially if it's someone they disagree with.

that's the primary failure point for liberalism: it's about the group,
not the individual, and America is about the individual.

redc1c4,
gawd spare us from people out to *help* us..... like Obama & Hillary. %-)
--
America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was
founded so we could all be anything we damned well pleased.
P. J. O'Rourke

William Black

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av William Black » 20 jun 2007 08:56:07

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

How quaint.

Someone who wants a 'one nation' politician.

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 20 jun 2007 09:00:10

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

How quaint.

Someone who wants a 'one nation' politician.

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.


He does not know how ironic his statement is, considering his hero is Bush.

Boy, *that* guy sure got the country together, didn't he!

- nilita

redc1c4

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av redc1c4 » 20 jun 2007 09:21:49

William Black wrote:
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

How quaint.

Someone who wants a 'one nation' politician.

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.

<WOOSH!!!>

redc1c4,
you should have looked up when that one went by..... %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 15:25:07

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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

How quaint.

Someone who wants a 'one nation' politician.

Actually I was mocking one of the DNC talking points

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.




--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 20 jun 2007 15:25:38

In article <4678E39D.5B4D4A2@drunkenbastards.org.ies>, redc1c4
@drunkenbastards.org.ies mumbled
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Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

all you do is bitch about feminists and ultra-lefties, now you
complain
when
they don't support hilary.

Hillary got 75% of the female vote in 2000, think she could miss the
2% (or less) "feminist" vote?


Why are the right wingers so afraid of and obsessed with Hillary?

Jack, you've gotta help me understand American politics! ...%)

I think it must be fear.

She looks like a winner...

Some pictures she looks more like a whiner..

What are her current numbers ?
48%-ish like her and 40%-ish hate her ?

Don't we want a president who can bring us together ?

How quaint.

Someone who wants a 'one nation' politician.

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.

WOOSH!!!

redc1c4,
you should have looked up when that one went by..... %-)

It surely mussed his hair a bit...

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 20 jun 2007 19:27:46

TMOliver wrote:
Your awareness of irony is considerably less than your expectations
thereof....

But that's to be expected.

Of course, it provides great pleasure to ready you and Ray in amutual fuss.
Talk about two fleas floating on the backs down a big river, jacking off and
calling for the draw bridges to be raised....

TMO


That's a funny one. You should stick to sex jokes, assuming you can
control your vulgar, deviant fantasies.

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 20 jun 2007 19:28:54

Tankfixer wrote:
In article <v_WdnUUJeYwNluXbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net mumbled

La N wrote:
[...]


btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm


Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


Yes, some of you maybe upset that Bush did not nuke Iran yet, some in
the far fringe are upset over the lack of public execution with bullets
soaked in pigs blood. But I hope they are only a tiny minority.

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 20 jun 2007 19:43:47

La N wrote:
[...]

And, btw, one doesn't have to be a shrink to see that you are playing the
same game as dapra. Just on opposite wings, if you will.


I resent you referring to me with Tankfixer all the time. Not because he
might not be a nice guy. He may be a very nice one. But he is / was
wrong, and I am / was right.

I've seen how disastrous the Bush administration were already before
911. I've seen how arrogant Bush's speech were after 911. The one the
media fell all over each other to praise as the 'best speech by a
president in history'.

I am sorry, it took 5-6 years for the American Public to figure him out.
Don't blame me for it.

I could give you quotes from 2003, when I identified the Bush regimes
evil goals. They achieved some, but none of the ones they clamed to be
their goals.

Anyway, You seem to be one, who can be persuaded at least with past hard
facts. I try to look ahead, and try to make predictions from past
behaviors.

Sometimes I am wrong. I thought it would be easy for Bush & Co to
'colonize' Iraq. The old fashion way; pay off the collaborators,
establish an instant oligarchy, ready to sell out their people. But I
supposed that the members of the Bush regime were evil geniuses, they
turned out to be incompetent evils.

La N

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av La N » 20 jun 2007 20:05:47

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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La N wrote:
[...]


And, btw, one doesn't have to be a shrink to see that you are playing the
same game as dapra. Just on opposite wings, if you will.


I resent you referring to me with Tankfixer all the time. Not because he
might not be a nice guy. He may be a very nice one. But he is / was wrong,
and I am / was right.

I've seen how disastrous the Bush administration were already before 911.
I've seen how arrogant Bush's speech were after 911. The one the media
fell all over each other to praise as the 'best speech by a president in
history'.

I am sorry, it took 5-6 years for the American Public to figure him out.
Don't blame me for it.

I could give you quotes from 2003, when I identified the Bush regimes evil
goals. They achieved some, but none of the ones they clamed to be their
goals.

Anyway, You seem to be one, who can be persuaded at least with past hard
facts. I try to look ahead, and try to make predictions from past
behaviors.

Sometimes I am wrong. I thought it would be easy for Bush & Co to
'colonize' Iraq. The old fashion way; pay off the collaborators, establish
an instant oligarchy, ready to sell out their people. But I supposed that
the members of the Bush regime were evil geniuses, they turned out to be
incompetent evils.

Lookee here, young man! I may be in agreement with you that Bush sux. But.
when you get into this biz about "imperialistic motives" only to serve the
bourgeoisie, much to the detriment of the proletariat and to put
petrodollars into the pockets of Madison Avenue big shots .... you've lost
me.

You and Tanky are both nice guys, but you both talk silly at times ... IMHO
....%)

- nilita

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 20 jun 2007 20:39:12

La N wrote:
"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lMGdnSTFmabV6OTbnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com...

La N wrote:
[...]


And, btw, one doesn't have to be a shrink to see that you are playing the
same game as dapra. Just on opposite wings, if you will.


I resent you referring to me with Tankfixer all the time. Not because he
might not be a nice guy. He may be a very nice one. But he is / was wrong,
and I am / was right.

I've seen how disastrous the Bush administration were already before 911.
I've seen how arrogant Bush's speech were after 911. The one the media
fell all over each other to praise as the 'best speech by a president in
history'.

I am sorry, it took 5-6 years for the American Public to figure him out.
Don't blame me for it.

I could give you quotes from 2003, when I identified the Bush regimes evil
goals. They achieved some, but none of the ones they clamed to be their
goals.

Anyway, You seem to be one, who can be persuaded at least with past hard
facts. I try to look ahead, and try to make predictions from past
behaviors.

Sometimes I am wrong. I thought it would be easy for Bush & Co to
'colonize' Iraq. The old fashion way; pay off the collaborators, establish
an instant oligarchy, ready to sell out their people. But I supposed that
the members of the Bush regime were evil geniuses, they turned out to be
incompetent evils.


Lookee here, young man!


I appreciate this compliment. No need to argue further.

I may be in agreement with you that Bush sux. But.
when you get into this biz about "imperialistic motives" only to serve the
bourgeoisie, much to the detriment of the proletariat and to put
petrodollars into the pockets of Madison Avenue big shots .... you've lost
me.

You and Tanky are both nice guys, but you both talk silly at times ... IMHO
...%)

- nilita


Ray O'Hara

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Ray O'Hara » 20 jun 2007 21:15:11

"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e85ei.3581$tB5.30@edtnps90...
..

If you want someone who brings the nation together then get a king.

That's not what elected leaders are for.


He does not know how ironic his statement is, considering his hero is
Bush.
Boy, *that* guy sure got the country together, didn't he!

- nilita



yeah, the chimperor is a "uniter not a divider"

Ray O'Hara

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Ray O'Hara » 20 jun 2007 21:15:43

"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
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WOOSH!!!

a sound you hear a lot.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 21 jun 2007 02:26:54

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Tankfixer wrote:
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La N wrote:
[...]


btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm


Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


Yes, some of you maybe upset that Bush did not nuke Iran yet, some in
the far fringe are upset over the lack of public execution with bullets
soaked in pigs blood. But I hope they are only a tiny minority.

Why don't you ask around.
It's the left wanting blood.


--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 21 jun 2007 02:45:01

Tankfixer wrote:

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Tankfixer wrote:

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La N wrote:
[...]



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm


Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


Yes, some of you maybe upset that Bush did not nuke Iran yet, some in
the far fringe are upset over the lack of public execution with bullets
soaked in pigs blood. But I hope they are only a tiny minority.


Why don't you ask around.
It's the left wanting blood.


Is it? Who might that be? Lieberman?

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 21 jun 2007 04:05:00

redc1c4 wrote:
[...]
that's the primary failure point for liberalism: it's about the group,
not the individual, and America is about the individual.


You must be totally brainwashed. Civilization, but even before
civilization, cooperation of humans assured their advancement and their
survival. And the development of their brains.

Evolution always had some defects, you are a prime example of it.

Jim E

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Jim E » 21 jun 2007 04:13:20

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich,

Hey stupid.

That wide body is THE RICH.


Jim E

Jim E

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Jim E » 21 jun 2007 04:23:16

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"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a
while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican
Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich, pretending to be for the average ones will not work.
Most of the Left figured her out, including the Feminists . She has
the
support of the DLC, the entrenched Democratic establishment, but not
the
Left, and the Right hates her.

What we need is someone who can take us back to our agrarian past. Empty
the
cities - all will work the land.

We'll call it year "zero" - and people unfit for the new society will be
dealt with - starting with those wearing glasses...

Your kind has tried that already.
It didn't work out too well...

What an ignorant ass you are.




Read a book or two, then get back to us.

Jim E

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 21 jun 2007 04:24:14

Jim E wrote:

"dapra" <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
---------------------------------------------

Hillary's "Feminist Problem"

The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Print Version:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/ ... 4136.shtml

Hillary is just like Kerry. Some in the Left want to think, for a while,
she would meet their expectations, but Hillary is just a Republican Lite,
a servant of the corporate oligarchy, as her husband were. Selling her
soul to the rich,


Hey stupid.

That wide body is THE RICH.


Jim E


Take a rest! You'll be better tomorrow.

Tankfixer

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av Tankfixer » 21 jun 2007 04:30:10

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Tankfixer wrote:

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Tankfixer wrote:

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La N wrote:
[...]



btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm


Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


Yes, some of you maybe upset that Bush did not nuke Iran yet, some in
the far fringe are upset over the lack of public execution with bullets
soaked in pigs blood. But I hope they are only a tiny minority.


Why don't you ask around.
It's the left wanting blood.


Is it? Who might that be? Lieberman?

Nope



--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

dapra

Re: Hillary's "Feminist Problem" -- Feminists Rescind Their

Legg inn av dapra » 21 jun 2007 05:44:06

Tankfixer wrote:

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@comcast.net mumbled

Tankfixer wrote:


In article <MPmdnbszy5lX7OTbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net mumbled


Tankfixer wrote:


In article <v_WdnUUJeYwNluXbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net mumbled



La N wrote:
[...]




btw, Tanky ... here's the deal .... when you make accusations, assumptions,
and projections about a politician's motives, you are playing the same game
as dapra (with regard to Bush) - just the flip side of his coin, that's all.
And neither of you come across as convincing. All you are telling me is
that you hate the politicians about which you speak.

- nilita


Would this convince you?

"All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in
the right direction, or do you feel that things are off on the wrong
track?" (6/8-11/07)

Right Direction; 19%
Wrong Track; 68%"

Even if you are not convinced, at least I am not alone. There are lots
of 'haters' in the country, obviously without any reason, you think.

http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm


Funny thing is those numbers can be taken any number of ways.
Some, or many of those 68% might wish stronger measures. We won't know
because the question was so vague.


Yes, some of you maybe upset that Bush did not nuke Iran yet, some in
the far fringe are upset over the lack of public execution with bullets
soaked in pigs blood. But I hope they are only a tiny minority.


Why don't you ask around.
It's the left wanting blood.


Is it? Who might that be? Lieberman?

Nope


The other part of the duo? "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"?

Obviously, you don't realize it, but for me, it's astonishing the moral
decay of America and the American people.

The President talks of killing and capture, but never of trial or justice.

A US Senator is singing of "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran".

You must have reached Nirvana of yours Tankfixer. Killing, bombing, what
could be better? Yes, you may miss some genocide, but be no distressed,
it's there, just pay attention. The mass media just wants to temper your
joy.

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