This may be slightly off-topic as it is 17th Century but here goes:
according to Genealogics & other reputable databases, Bishop (of
London) Henry Compton (1631-1713) never married. He was born and died
in England. A family story has emerged among American Comptons & their
relatives that he was secretly married and had at least one child,
John. As a result he was supposed to have suffered some professional
setbacks. The secret wife must have traveled a great deal more than
the Bishop as her son was born in Massachusetts. It seems unlikely to
me but does anyone happen to know anything that might corroborate (or
explode) this pedigree? The idea has made its way into dozens of
American pedigrees which have all copied each other into oblivion. If
the pedigree is accurate, it would give Compton descendants in America
a colonial line to Plantagenet. Thanks, Bronwen Edwards
Bishop Henry Compton
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WJhonson
Re: Bishop Henry Compton
I'll point out that in reviewing some of those WorldConnect databases it would appear that the submitters themselves are confused about the dating. Some giving John Compton's birthyear as early as 1638. Some give him children born by 1665.
I'll note that Leo does not give Henry a birthyear of 1631 but states "abt 1633".
If the ages of John Compton's children can be pinned down with sources, it should be relatively simple to show that John could not possibly be the son of a man born in 1631 or 1633 unless they were both prodigies.
Will Johnson
I'll note that Leo does not give Henry a birthyear of 1631 but states "abt 1633".
If the ages of John Compton's children can be pinned down with sources, it should be relatively simple to show that John could not possibly be the son of a man born in 1631 or 1633 unless they were both prodigies.
Will Johnson
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Leo van de Pas
Re: Bishop Henry Compton
Dear Will,
Burke's Peerage 1938 page 1867 records that Bishop Henry died 7 July 1713,
aged 80.Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2109 has the same.
But Dictionary of National Biography has some interesting details to add,
here his life span is given as 1632-1713. And a deliciously infuriating
observation "It is usually stated that Compton never married". I glanced
quickly through his biography and may have overlooked the mentioning of an
illegitimate child.
According to the information I have collected Bishop Henry Compton descends
in at least 17 lines from King Edward III.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
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From: "WJhonson" <wjhonson@aol.com>
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Bishop Henry Compton
Burke's Peerage 1938 page 1867 records that Bishop Henry died 7 July 1713,
aged 80.Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2109 has the same.
But Dictionary of National Biography has some interesting details to add,
here his life span is given as 1632-1713. And a deliciously infuriating
observation "It is usually stated that Compton never married". I glanced
quickly through his biography and may have overlooked the mentioning of an
illegitimate child.
According to the information I have collected Bishop Henry Compton descends
in at least 17 lines from King Edward III.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: "WJhonson" <wjhonson@aol.com>
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Bishop Henry Compton
I'll point out that in reviewing some of those WorldConnect databases it
would appear that the submitters themselves are confused about the dating.
Some giving John Compton's birthyear as early as 1638. Some give him
children born by 1665.
I'll note that Leo does not give Henry a birthyear of 1631 but states "abt
1633".
If the ages of John Compton's children can be pinned down with sources, it
should be relatively simple to show that John could not possibly be the
son of a man born in 1631 or 1633 unless they were both prodigies.
Will Johnson
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Gjest
Re: Bishop Henry Compton
On Jun 18, 3:35 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
I have been finding more tidbits - Henry Compton's jurisdiction (is
that the right word?) included the American colonies and he was
involved with missionary efforts, etc. Although he never actually
traveled to the colonies, he was the first Chancellor of William &
Mary College. The alleged son, John, was supposed to have emigrated to
Maryland in 1664, which would have been during his childhood -
suggesting the possibility that he and his mother had been sent to the
colonies for some reason. His mother's name is given as "Rachel
Howard" but there is no further information on her. Most enticing
was mention on the "Find a Grave Memorial" website that he had
"adopted his 2nd cousin, John Compton II, when John's father died". No
source is given for that statement, however. I started out with the
assumption that the link to Bishop Compton would be spurious but the
search is getting interesting. Best, Bronwen
Dear Will,
Burke's Peerage 1938 page 1867 records that Bishop Henry died 7 July 1713,
aged 80.Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2109 has the same.
But Dictionary of National Biography has some interesting details to add,
here his life span is given as 1632-1713. And a deliciously infuriating
observation "It is usually stated that Compton never married". I glanced
quickly through his biography and may have overlooked the mentioning of an
illegitimate child.
According to the information I have collected Bishop Henry Compton descends
in at least 17 lines from King Edward III.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
I have been finding more tidbits - Henry Compton's jurisdiction (is
that the right word?) included the American colonies and he was
involved with missionary efforts, etc. Although he never actually
traveled to the colonies, he was the first Chancellor of William &
Mary College. The alleged son, John, was supposed to have emigrated to
Maryland in 1664, which would have been during his childhood -
suggesting the possibility that he and his mother had been sent to the
colonies for some reason. His mother's name is given as "Rachel
Howard" but there is no further information on her. Most enticing
was mention on the "Find a Grave Memorial" website that he had
"adopted his 2nd cousin, John Compton II, when John's father died". No
source is given for that statement, however. I started out with the
assumption that the link to Bishop Compton would be spurious but the
search is getting interesting. Best, Bronwen
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Gjest
Re: Bishop Henry Compton
On Jun 18, 8:37 pm, lostcoo...@yahoo.com wrote:
In looking back at Bishop Compton's ancestors, including collateral
and maternal lines, I find no other "Johns". This suggests that the
adoption story might be wrong - although the biological father of the
adopted "John" might have had a different name. Bronwen
On Jun 18, 3:35 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
Dear Will,
Burke's Peerage 1938 page 1867 records that Bishop Henry died 7 July 1713,
aged 80.Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2109 has the same.
But Dictionary of National Biography has some interesting details to add,
here his life span is given as 1632-1713. And a deliciously infuriating
observation "It is usually stated that Compton never married". I glanced
quickly through his biography and may have overlooked the mentioning of an
illegitimate child.
According to the information I have collected Bishop Henry Compton descends
in at least 17 lines from King Edward III.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
I have been finding more tidbits - Henry Compton's jurisdiction (is
that the right word?) included the American colonies and he was
involved with missionary efforts, etc. Although he never actually
traveled to the colonies, he was the first Chancellor of William &
Mary College. The alleged son, John, was supposed to have emigrated to
Maryland in 1664, which would have been during his childhood -
suggesting the possibility that he and his mother had been sent to the
colonies for some reason. His mother's name is given as "Rachel
Howard" but there is no further information on her. Most enticing
was mention on the "Find a Grave Memorial" website that he had
"adopted his 2nd cousin, John Compton II, when John's father died". No
source is given for that statement, however. I started out with the
assumption that the link to Bishop Compton would be spurious but the
search is getting interesting. Best, Bronwen- Hide quoted text -
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In looking back at Bishop Compton's ancestors, including collateral
and maternal lines, I find no other "Johns". This suggests that the
adoption story might be wrong - although the biological father of the
adopted "John" might have had a different name. Bronwen