A Millennial Code is Broken ???
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I think I might have bridged a major gap in our trees. I don't believe this
has ever been solved (or somewhat) until now. My interest is in the surname
of Markham, and the top of our tree. I will keep this fairly brief, but I
hope one can realize the significance of this information.
The top of our Markham is quite wrong in many ways. Informations have been
made '''to fit''' over time. But there are many pointers. I decided that
since Sir Alexander de (Cheverchort) Marcham must have been a real person
since his arms are recorded with the Heralds, but he seems to be out of
place. Now I know why. I also decided that our Lord William, Fulk, Turold,
maybe even Roger, and maybe, maybe not Claron, were actually really there,
but I found a whole set of new Fulks and Turolds just sitting right there
hiding right inbetween (draw a straight line between Tickhill and Worksop)
Tickhill and Worksop, in a place called Carlton, or Carlton-in-Lindrick.
Nearly every single town in this entire area from Tickhill to Worksop to
Retford is going hold many many many of our ancestors, and the beginning of
surnames, etc. !!!
I decided to start going into the history of every single town in this area,
and looking into the history of every single person mentioned that I could.
Now guess who's in Carlton-in-Lindrick??? I started looking into these
pin-prick places, since I found out that there is a place in Yorkshire also
called Lisors, and that whilst this might have been the home of the Fulk and
Turold Lizours, the Domesday Book was probably refering to the Yorkshire
region, and not the Lisieux in France or Normandy. Although they are pritty
much one and the same thing except two clearly different places. Fulk and
Turold would have named this spot from Lizours in France, but the Domesday
Book is not necessarily refering to Normandy, since it is all about land in
England and so on.
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!!! Here is the SECRET of William, Lord of Marckham !!!
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I started to analyse every single word in 'Markham Memorials' Chapter I,
what was said, and most importantly what was not said, and the exact wording
of every single sentence. I came to the conclusion that there must be a
relationship to another family, and looked into this one. I realized that
the wording of William being "Lord of Markham", did not even mean he was
"FROM" Markham, or even ever lived there, or even anything close to that.
What if there was another Lord elsewhere named '''Lord William''', and that
'MM' had some truth in it, because the Markham authors of the past never
actually let go of certain names, I realized that there might still be some
truth in the names being given to us, although they just couldn't put there
finger on the right button, but they knew they were close. Check this out!!!
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William was never given as William Markham!!!
[HOTMF] William, Lord of Markham.
[MM] William, Lord of East Markham.
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I have now found the people to whom we are related, some of them are:
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William Cheever (or Chievre), Baron (Lord or Baron in Devonshire).
[[[ !!! He was also LORD/BARON OF MARCKHAM !!! ]]]
Very close relatives are:
Ralph de Cheverchort.
Fulk de Cheverchort.
Turold de Cheverchort.
Alexander Cheverchort.
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Not only do we have our Baron or Lord of Markham, if this is refering to OUR
(?) Marcham in Notts, it better, or I'll most spiffed, but Fulk and Turold
Cheverchort were living there, very separate people to Fulk and Turold
Lizours, also the Ralph who just keeps on coming into all my own searches.
Did you see who is there ??? That's right, finally, old Alexander de
Cheverchort !!! Alexander de Cheverchort, now living in Marcham, he would
have inherited estates there, as we will see, and he (or his son Alexander,
or both!) must have been the Castellan of Nottingham Castle, and he would
have been from Marcham, and recorded as so, since that is where he was
living !!! We should probably call him Sir Alexander de Cheverchort de
Marcham. That is him alright, he is the son of a major humungous Baron
William de Cheever, of Devon, his residence in Marcham, and he is rightfully
the Castellan of Nottingham Castle.
Rightfully as 'MM' mentioned only once, the Neumarch (NovoForo) line comes
in quite well, as does Furnival, Staveley, Latimer, etc., you name it.
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Variations: Chevrolcourtor Caprecuria, Chevercourt, Clivercher or Cliviger.
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<<< Carlton in Lindrick: Carlton-in-Lindrick parish comprises the two
townships and constablewicks of Carlton-in-Lindrick (sometimes called South
Carlton) and Kingston-in-Carlton, pleasantly situated on the road betwixt
Tickhill and Worksop, 4 miles north of the latter. In Saxon times it was of
sufficient consequence to have six resident thanes, each having a hall or
manor, but these were all possessed by Roger de Busli at the Norman
Conquest. The family of Chevercourt held it under him, but their heirs
failing, it was divided between the Latimers and the Fitzhughs, from whom it
passed to the Dacres, Molyneux, Talors and Cliftons. >>>
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Nearly EVERY single town in and around the triangle of
Tickhill-Retford-Tuxford, you are going to be related closely in some way to
nearly every big name in that area. The above paragraph is just one item I
have, but this is clearly refering to one specific point, and a very
important one, that the lands got further divided, but obviously the name of
Markham isn't mentioned there yet, because no-one has ever known that the
Cheverchorts are also going under the name of Marcham!!!
Sir Alexander will be a son or grandson (Not parent!) of this Baron William,
and Fulk, Turold and Ralph, will be in the region of sons. This will
probably connect to the Hamo de Crevequer lines, Ralph de Pemeraii lines and
so on.
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<<< The Witnesses were Gilbert the Presbyter, Richard the Presbyter, William
the Presbyter, Fulco de Lasoriis, Thoraldus his brother, Ernold de Bulli,
Godefr. the Steward, or Sewer (Dapifer), Turold de Cheverchort, Claron, Raph
Novifori, Pagan, Gladicus, Robert Dispensator, W. de Drincort. >>>
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From the above, we can see that Turold de Cheverchort is clearly not the
same person as Fulc (Fulk) de Lasoriis, but I have several other sources
that do confirm Fulco and Turold DE LISORIIS being brothers, so that part is
correct, they just are NOT the same two people as Fulk and Turold
Cheverchort!!! The de Lisoriis line goes into the Lacey marriage, most of
which I have figured out now too.
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He (Baron William) and his brother Gosfried held in Normandy at La Chieve
(Capra, Chevercourt, Capricuia) in the Seine-Inf. They were allied to the
Busli or Bullys. You also have William's brother's name of 'Goisfrid'.
Baron William Cheever, (or Chievre) was at the Battle of Hastings. He became
a senior Baron of Devon, holding 47 lordships in barony in Devonshire. He
and his brother Gosfried held in Normandy at La Chieve (Capra, Chevercourt,
Capricuia) in the Seine-Inf. They were allied to the Busli or Bullys.
William later became one of the chief barons under King William Rufus. His
daughter, Sibylla, married Robert, Sire de Cuilla.
Manors: Ash, Barton, Awliscombe, Badgworthy, Bradford Witheridge, Colebrook,
Cullompton, Hemyock?? Ivedon, Lynton, MACKHAM, Membury, Mildon, Pirzwell,
Puddington, Radworthy, North Molton, Shillingford, Southleigh, Virworthy,
West Putford, Whipton, Yowlestone, Cadeleigh, Buckland, Braunton, Buckland,
Haccombe, Combe-in-Teignhead, Countisbury, Eastleigh, Huntshawl, lkerton,
Ingsdon, North Buckland, Oakford, Rapshays, Lyn.
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Here above, just sitting ever so quietly, is "MACKHAM". I already had the
names of Fulk, Turold, Ralph, and Alexander de Cheverchort, and a reference
to Carlton in Lindrick. I have never heard of Carlton in Lindrick, and I
decided to take the time to look it up in haste, and guess what, it was
right there inbetween Tickhill and Worksop, and 5 miles from W. and E.
Markham. I knew now that this must be a hit. The Mackham mentioned above is
where his sons were!!!
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<<< The Chevercourt family apparently descended from Thorold, the holder of
Carlton and several other villages in 1086; see Morris, Domesday
Nottinghamshire, f.284c (9, 10), f.285b (9, 50), f.285c (9, 59); and M. H.
Towry White, Memoirs of the House of White of Wallingwells (privately
published, 1886), no page #s. >>>
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There is also a connection, probably the older Alexander de Crevequer to
Redbourne in north Lincs, where some of the oldest lines of Markhams are
found, but not yet linked into the main tree. I am most keen to know if I am
right with my conlcusion. I am most keen to get into some contact with
people interested in this area of research.
In my frantic searches, I have lost one single piece of very important
information that I '''think''' gave the clear connection of the older
Alexander to Fulk. Can anyone help me find this again, or help me with
this??
I think the older Alexander went to Redbourne, and the younger Alexander was
the Sir Alexander de Marcham, Castellan of Nottingham Castle. Turold's line
goes into a whole stack of other surnames, and I think we are coming from
Fulk. This is a long story to write out fully, so I will leave it there for
now.
Yours Sincerely,
Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B.(95)....
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