Roger de Montgomery's followers in Shropshire

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Roger de Montgomery's followers in Shropshire

Legg inn av Richard Bradley » 21 mai 2007 13:41:50

I am interested in the genealogy and history of the following persons who were associated with Roger de Montgomery, Viscount of Hiemois, Earl of Shrewsbury. It is said that they originally came from the area of Hiemois, in Anjou, and then settled in Shropshire after the conquest..

Helgot of Reisolent had lands in Shropshire the area that became known as Holdgate where Holdgate Castle was built. The following are presumed descendents: Helgot had son Herbert of Clee, nephew of Geoffrey Clee, Bishop of Hereford. Herbert had a son Herbert of Castle Holdgate. Robert De La Mare was the nephew of Herbert of Castle Holdgate. a daughter of Robert de la Mare married Ralph of Arden.

Renaud of Baileul-on-Goufferm was Sheriff of Shropshire. Was he the same or of the same family as the Rainer (Raynor) also said to be a Sheriff of Shropshire? Rainer was said to be the father of Bishop Robert. Was this the same as Bishop Robert Burnell?

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Re: Roger de Montgomery's followers in Shropshire

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 mai 2007 20:14:41

On 21 Mai, 13:41, "Richard Bradley" <rbraba...@msn.com> wrote:
I am interested in the genealogy and history of the following persons who were associated with Roger de Montgomery, Viscount of Hiemois, Earl of Shrewsbury. It is said that they originally came from the area of Hiemois, in Anjou, and then settled in Shropshire after the conquest..

Helgot of Reisolent had lands in Shropshire the area that became known as Holdgate where Holdgate Castle was built. The following are presumed descendents: Helgot had son Herbert of Clee, nephew of Geoffrey Clee, Bishop of Hereford. Herbert had a son Herbert of Castle Holdgate. Robert De La Mare was the nephew of Herbert of Castle Holdgate. a daughter of Robert de la Mare married Ralph of Arden.

I presume this is taken from the account in VCH Shropshire, sub
Holdgate (although I note this says that Robert de la Mare, father of
Ralph of Arden's wife Agnes, was "perhaps a nephew of Herbert of
Castle Holdgate").

Keats-Rohan, "Domesday Descendants", p 905 adds that Herbert the son
of Helgot married Muriel, and was father of Eutropius and Nicholas (in
addition to a second Herbert).

MA-R

Gjest

Re: Roger de Montgomery's followers in Shropshire

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 mai 2007 20:36:30

The Montgommery family is from Normandie not Anjou. They are from
viking stock and related to the family of duchesse Gunnor. Hiemois is
situated in Southernmost part of Normandie, around the old town of
Exmes. The county as such laid between Falaise and Sees.

Jean Bunot

Richard Bradley a écrit :
I am interested in the genealogy and history of the following persons who were associated with Roger de Montgomery, Viscount of Hiemois, Earl of Shrewsbury. It is said that they originally came from the area of Hiemois, in Anjou, and then settled in Shropshire after the conquest..

Helgot of Reisolent had lands in Shropshire the area that became known as Holdgate where Holdgate Castle was built. The following are presumed descendents: Helgot had son Herbert of Clee, nephew of Geoffrey Clee, Bishop of Hereford. Herbert had a son Herbert of Castle Holdgate. Robert De La Mare was the nephew of Herbert of Castle Holdgate. a daughter of Robert de la Mare married Ralph of Arden.

Renaud of Baileul-on-Goufferm was Sheriff of Shropshire. Was he the same or of the same family as the Rainer (Raynor) also said to be a Sheriff of Shropshire? Rainer was said to be the father of Bishop Robert. Was this the same as Bishop Robert Burnell?

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