Keats-Rohan's Engaine pedigree (revisited): DD correction?

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Keats-Rohan's Engaine pedigree (revisited): DD correction?

Legg inn av Gjest » 15 mai 2007 15:42:12

On December 2002, there was a brief thread to which Chris Phillips
contributed, regarding Keats-Rohan's reconstruction of the pedigree of
the early Engaines of Pytchley.

Having looked at both DD and DP, it seems to me that there is one
inherent contradiction in the two books on one point, and a question
mark over another element of the pedigree.

First, the contradiction:

In Domesday People, p 366 sub Ricardus Ingania, it is said that "by a
second marriage to the daughter of Fulk the Sheriff, Vitalis was the
father of Richard II Engaine of Pytchley".

However, in Domesday Descendants, p 1009 sub Ricardus II Ingaine, it
is said that he was the "son of Vitalis Ingaine and a daughter of
William de Lisores" [i.e. Vitalis's first wife].

Now the question mark:

In DD, p 966 sub Ricardus Filius Ursi, it is said that Richard Fitz
Urse II was the son of Richard Fitz Urse I and the widow of Richard I
Engaine. Additionally, Margery, the daughter of Richard Fitz Urse II,
married Richard II Engaine.

Assuming that each of these statements is correct, Richard II Engaine
was the grandson of Richard I Engaine, and his wife Margery was the
granddaughter of the widow of Richard I Engaine; this would make them
first cousins - unless the widow of Richard I Engaine was his second
wife, and his son Vitalis was son by a first marriage. First cousin
marriage would have been firmly within the prohibited degrees.

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