Edward the Exile

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Edward the Exile

Legg inn av Lockehead » 15 mai 2007 05:53:57

Dear Group-

I just purchased a map of the Royal bloodline of England called "Royal
England" published by http://www.ancestors.co.uk

It shows Edward The Exile married Agetha dau. of Emperor Henry II (or
of Stephen King of Hungary).

My records use "Royalty for Commoners" by Roderick W. Stuart, which
shows Agetha as the daughter of Ludolph Von Braunschweig and Gertrude
Von Egisheim. Did I put in the wrong information, or has conventional
wisdom changed since Mr. Stuart wrote his book?

norenxaq

Re: Edward the Exile

Legg inn av norenxaq » 15 mai 2007 06:08:05

Lockehead wrote:

Dear Group-

I just purchased a map of the Royal bloodline of England called "Royal
England" published by http://www.ancestors.co.uk

It shows Edward The Exile married Agetha dau. of Emperor Henry II (or
of Stephen King of Hungary).

My records use "Royalty for Commoners" by Roderick W. Stuart, which
shows Agetha as the daughter of Ludolph Von Braunschweig and Gertrude
Von Egisheim. Did I put in the wrong information, or has conventional
wisdom changed since Mr. Stuart wrote his book?




RFC cannot be trusted. if you find contrary evidence to it, it is

probably more reliable. as for Agatha, her ancestry is unknown

taf

Re: Edward the Exile

Legg inn av taf » 15 mai 2007 17:59:05

On May 14, 9:53 pm, Lockehead <franklo...@mris.com> wrote:
Dear Group-

I just purchased a map of the Royal bloodline of England called "Royal
England" published byhttp://www.ancestors.co.uk

It shows Edward The Exile married Agetha dau. of Emperor Henry II (or
of Stephen King of Hungary).

My records use "Royalty for Commoners" by Roderick W. Stuart, which
shows Agetha as the daughter of Ludolph Von Braunschweig and Gertrude
Von Egisheim. Did I put in the wrong information, or has conventional
wisdom changed since Mr. Stuart wrote his book?


Agatha is referred to by different chroniclers as kinswoman
(originally "niece", but in some derivative chronicles "daughter") of
Emperor Henry (which Henry rarely specified), or sister of the Queen
of Hungary, or kinswoman of the king of Hungary, or daughter of a
Russian noble family. There is no single relationship which fulfills
all of these descriptions, and the examples you cite above are only
two (or three) of the many solutions proposed.

As to which represents conventional wisdom, the chart version is
probably 50 years out of date, while Stuart represents the
conventional wisdom of a decade ago. Since then yet another two
solutions have been proposed and opinion is divided as many as four
different ways. Wikipedia has an extensive article on the Agatha
conundrum (under "Agatha, wife of Edward the Exile").

taf

Lockehead

Re: Edward the Exile

Legg inn av Lockehead » 16 mai 2007 02:06:00

On May 15, 12:59 pm, taf <farme...@interfold.com> wrote:
On May 14, 9:53 pm, Lockehead <franklo...@mris.com> wrote:

Dear Group-

I just purchased a map of the Royal bloodline of England called "Royal
England" published byhttp://www.ancestors.co.uk

It shows Edward The Exile married Agetha dau. of Emperor Henry II (or
of Stephen King of Hungary).

My records use "Royalty for Commoners" by Roderick W. Stuart, which
shows Agetha as the daughter of Ludolph Von Braunschweig and Gertrude
Von Egisheim. Did I put in the wrong information, or has conventional
wisdom changed since Mr. Stuart wrote his book?

Agatha is referred to by different chroniclers as kinswoman
(originally "niece", but in some derivative chronicles "daughter") of
Emperor Henry (which Henry rarely specified), or sister of the Queen
of Hungary, or kinswoman of the king of Hungary, or daughter of a
Russian noble family. There is no single relationship which fulfills
all of these descriptions, and the examples you cite above are only
two (or three) of the many solutions proposed.

As to which represents conventional wisdom, the chart version is
probably 50 years out of date, while Stuart represents the
conventional wisdom of a decade ago. Since then yet another two
solutions have been proposed and opinion is divided as many as four
different ways. Wikipedia has an extensive article on the Agatha
conundrum (under "Agatha, wife of Edward the Exile").

taf

thank you both for taking the time to respond. I will make the
notation in my software and consider framing the chart at a later time.

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