The Babthorpes took their surname from the East Riding manor of
Babthorpe in the parish of Hemingbrough, which they acquired around
the time of Richard I. Ralph de Hunsley, whose family could be traced
back to the reign of King Stephen, assumed the surname of his new
manor, which was held of the bishop of Durham. The early Babthorpes
were verderers of the forest between Ouse and Derwent, having charge
of the king's deer, and were never great landholders - Babthorpe being
a small manor of only one carucate, and nearby Osgodby in the same
parish, which they finally were awarded in 1460 after a 20-year
dispute with rival claimants the Hagthorpes, not any larger. It was
service, in particular legal service, which elevated the family in
importance and influence. In the early 15th-century, Sir Robert
Babthorpe (d. 1436) fought at Agincourt, was the first of the family
to be knighted, and served as comptroller of the Household to Henry V,
and was one of the executors of that monarch's will. His son Ralph
Babthorpe was an esquire of the body to Henry VI, and was killed in
1455 fighting for the Lancastrian cause at the first battle of St.
Albans. His son Sir Robert Babthorpe (d. 1466) had four sons, Ralph,
Robert, William and Thomas. The eldest son Ralph Babthorpe (d. 1490)
left an only daughter and heiress Isabel, who was married to Lord
Hastings, but died without issue. The second son Robert Babthorpe
also left an only daughter, another Isabel (d. 1552), who was arranged
in marriage in 1496 to William, son and heir of Sir Robert Plumpton.
It was the third son William Babthorpe (d. 1501) who had arranged his
niece's marriage, securing to himself and his heirs the entail of
Babthorpe and other family lands in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, but
the Plumptons dishonored the agreement and laid claim to those
exempted estates, which resulted in a 60-year ongoing feud between the
two families.
Though confined to a single manor, Osgodby, due to the Plumpton feud,
the Babthorpes continued to pursue legal careers in the 16th-century,
and became part of the Yorkshire attorney-gentry class, which
distinguished itself through administrative service and local
influence rather than great estates. Included were such families as
the Sothills, the Fairfaxes, the Middletons, and the Palmeses, with
whom the Babthorpes intermarried. The family reached a peak with
attorney Sir William Babthorpe (1493-1555) who, thanks to the
influence of his Palmes in-laws, was appointed to the council of the
Duke of Richmond in June 1525, and was made a justice of the peace for
the East Riding. In 1536, he was appointed to the council of the
North, serving alongside Sir Marmaduke Constable of Everingham (d.
1545), and together they became involved in the first stages of the
Pilgrimage of Grace the following year, though they were able to
escape the executions of its leaders. It was probably by 1541 that
Babthorpe's son and heir William was arranged in marriage to
Constable's granddaughter Barbara, for Sir Marmaduke made Babthorpe
one of the supervisors of his will in that year. Through her mother,
Barbara Constable was descended from Edward III, and the Babthorpes
and Constables of Everingham would remain closely associated through
the remainder of the century. Sir William Babthorpe obtained the East
Riding manor of Flotmanby in 1543, was elected M.P. in 1547 and again
in 1554, while Barbara's father, Sir Robert Constable of Everingham,
was elected M.P. in 1553 and 1555.
The next Sir William Babthorpe (1528-1581) and Barbara Constable had
one son (Ralph) and two daughters (Katherine, married to George
Vavasour, and Margaret, married to Henry Cholmley) before her untimely
death, likely by 1558 (as her father made provision for only three
married daughters in his will that year). William took a second wife
Frances Dawnay (not descended from Edward I) and had a third daughter
(Christian, married to John Girlington). It was this Sir William who
was awarded the manors of Babthorpe and adjoining Brackenholme when
the long-standing dispute with the Plumptons was finally settled in
1565. Sir William was also an attorney, appointed to the East Riding
bench in 1562, and knighted by 1575. But he and his second wife were
amongst the earliest Yorkshire gentry to fall back to the original
Catholic faith, and the family would later pay dearly for their
devotion to it.
Sir Ralph Babthorpe (c.1555-1618) married on 12 January 1578 Grace
Birnand (1563-1635), only child of William Birnand, recorder of York,
and Grace Ingleby, both staunchly Catholic families. The couple was
bitterly persecuted, with Grace spending two years (1592-1594) in
prison in Sheriff Hutton for her Catholic belief, and Sir Ralph being
denounced monthly in his parish church with proclamations nailed to
its door. In spite of this, the Babthorpes were locally beloved, and
Ralph was knighted by James I in 1603. But the family faced renewed
persecution when Tobias Matthew became archbishop of York in 1606.
Sir Ralph had been paying the monthly fine of £20 for recusancy
enacted by James I in 1605, but Archbishop Matthew forced Sir Ralph
and Grace's children to be re-baptized by a Protestant minister, and
started to charge exorbitant fines for slight discrepancies, with Sir
Ralph having to visit his home secretly at knight from Lincolnshire in
order to avoid the commissioners and imprisonment. The family removed
to London the following year, and then joined the estimated 5,000
English Catholics who emigrated to the continent between 1598 and 1642
to join the religious life, crossing the sea to St. Omers in 1613.
Sir Ralph became secretary of the Sodality of the Immaculate
Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary at the Jesuit college in
Louvain, where he died in 1618. After her husband's death Lady Grace
determined to embrace a religious life, and, settling her affairs in
England, she and her granddaughter, Grace Constable, retired to St.
Monica's, an Augustinian convent in Louvain, and there took the veil
together in 1623. Lady Babthope had borne her husband four sons
(William, Robert, Ralph, Thomas) and three daughters (Katherine,
married Sir George Palmes of Naburn, Elizabeth married John Constable
of Carthorpe, Barbara). Robert became a Benedictine monk, Ralph and
Thomas were priests of the Society of Jesus, and Barbara Babthorpe
(1591-1654) became chief superior in 1645 of the Institute of Mary,
the order of Jesuit nuns founded by her good friend Mary Ward.
Sir William Babthorpe (1580-1635), the eldest son, succeeded to the
estate, but two-thirds of its rental income had been lost by fines and
punishments. He and his wife Ursula Tyrwhitt (a strongly Catholic
Lincolnshire family) were also zealous recuscants, and were soon
involved in trouble on account of religion. Two priests were
discovered in their house by the pursuivants, Sir William was thrown
into prison for nearly a year, and such a ruinous fine inflicted upon
him that he was reduced to absolute poverty. He sold Brackenholme in
1620 to George Wentworth, Babthorpe in 1621 to Richard Bowes of
Hagthorpe, and Osgodby in 1622 to Sir Guy Palmes of Lindley, and
emigrated to the continent with his wife and family. Dame Ursula died
of the plague at Bruges in 1634, and Sir William, who became a captain
in the Spanish army, died the following year fighting for them against
the French.
Their grandson Albert Babthorpe (1647-1720), whose three descents from
Edward III thru Joan Beaufort are given below, entered the Society of
Jesus in 1666, became rector of the college of St. Aloysius in
Lancashire in 1712 and chaplain at Croxteth, where he died on 13 April
1720, the last surviving Babthorpe descendant of Sir William Babthorpe
and Barbara Constable, and the last of a direct-male line that could
be traced twenty generations.
Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland (c.1379-1440) had 3 daughters
(A1, B1 & C1)
A1) Cecily Neville, Duchess of York (1415-1495), who had
A2) Anne of York (1439-1476) m. 2) Sir Thomas St. Leger, and had
A3) Anne St. Leger (d. 1526) m. George Manners, Lord Ros, and had
A4) Catherine Manners (d. aft. 1558) m. Sir Robert Constable of
Everingham (by 1495-1558), and had
A5) Barbara Constable (d. by 1558) m. c.1541 Sir William Babthorpe of
Babthorpe (1528-1581), and had
A6) Sir Ralph Babthorpe of Babthorpe (c.1555-1618) m. 1578 Grace
Birnand (see B9 below), and had
A7) Sir William Babthorpe of Babthorpe (1580-1635) m. Ursula Tyrwhitt
(d. 1634), and had
A8) Ralph Babthorpe (c.1605-16??) m. ------ Hamilton, and had
A9) Albert Babthorpe, 5th son (1647-1720), Jesuit Priest 1666
B1) Mary Ferrers, Lady Neville of Oversley (1394-1458), had
B2) John Neville of Oversley (d. 1482), who had
B3) Joan Neville m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (d. 1463), and
had
B4) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy
(see C3 below),
B5) Elizabeth Gascoigne (d. 1559) m. by 1493 George Tailboys, 9th Lord
Kyme (c.1467-1538), and had
B6) Cecily Tailboys m. 1) William Ingleby of Ripley, and had
B7) Sir William Ingleby of Ripley (1518-1578) m. Anne Mallory (d.
1588), and had
B8) Grace Ingleby m. c.1560 William Birnand of Knaresborough (d.
1582), and had
B9) Grace Birnand (1563-1635) m. 1578 Sir Ralph Babthorpe of Babthorpe
(see A6 above)
C1) Eleanor Nevill, Countess of Northumberland (d. 1473), who had
C2) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), who had
C3) Margaret Percy m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (see B4
above)
Cheers, --------Brad
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William Babthorpe "to whom the manor or Babthorpe was awarded 20 Oct
7E, 1565"
is here
http://content.ancestry.com/browse/book ... 142%2c3240
"Historical and biographical notices of the family of Plumpton...
page cii
listed as son of Sir William Babthorpe by his wife Agnes Palmes dau of
Brian Palmes of Naburn
this Sir William is then listed as son of William Babthorpe of
Osgoodby by his wife Cristiana Sothill
the line than can be made to ascend to the throne of Scotland as
follows
Christiana Sothill bur 8 Apr 1504 Gray Friars, London
daughter of
Henry Sothill of Stockerston by his wife Anne Boyville
son of
Gerard Sothill of Redbourne d 1 Aug 1410 by his wife Muriel Salvaine d
1441/2
daughter of
Gerard Salvaine by his wife Alice living in 1428
son of
Sir John Salvaine d.v.p. bef Aug 1369 by unknown woman
son of
Sir Gerard Salvaine d bef 15 Oct 1372 by his wife Alice Grey
son of
John Salvaine d bet 28 Sep 1312 and 13 Mar 1320 by his wife Margaret
de Roos living 26 Dec 1321
daughter of
Robert Lord Roos of Wark d bef 5 Mar 1310 attainted; by his wife
Laura (Laura's parents are only conjecture)
son of
Robert de Roos of Wark d bef 20 Apr 1274 by his wife Margaret de Brus
d bef 30 Jan 1306/7
son of
Robert de Ros, Knt, of Wark d 1267/9 by unknown wife
son of
Robert de Ros, Knt Templar, of Hamlake d bef 23 Dec 1226 by his wife
Isabel, daughter of William the lion, King of Scotland
Will Johnson
7E, 1565"
is here
http://content.ancestry.com/browse/book ... 142%2c3240
"Historical and biographical notices of the family of Plumpton...
page cii
listed as son of Sir William Babthorpe by his wife Agnes Palmes dau of
Brian Palmes of Naburn
this Sir William is then listed as son of William Babthorpe of
Osgoodby by his wife Cristiana Sothill
the line than can be made to ascend to the throne of Scotland as
follows
Christiana Sothill bur 8 Apr 1504 Gray Friars, London
daughter of
Henry Sothill of Stockerston by his wife Anne Boyville
son of
Gerard Sothill of Redbourne d 1 Aug 1410 by his wife Muriel Salvaine d
1441/2
daughter of
Gerard Salvaine by his wife Alice living in 1428
son of
Sir John Salvaine d.v.p. bef Aug 1369 by unknown woman
son of
Sir Gerard Salvaine d bef 15 Oct 1372 by his wife Alice Grey
son of
John Salvaine d bet 28 Sep 1312 and 13 Mar 1320 by his wife Margaret
de Roos living 26 Dec 1321
daughter of
Robert Lord Roos of Wark d bef 5 Mar 1310 attainted; by his wife
Laura (Laura's parents are only conjecture)
son of
Robert de Roos of Wark d bef 20 Apr 1274 by his wife Margaret de Brus
d bef 30 Jan 1306/7
son of
Robert de Ros, Knt, of Wark d 1267/9 by unknown wife
son of
Robert de Ros, Knt Templar, of Hamlake d bef 23 Dec 1226 by his wife
Isabel, daughter of William the lion, King of Scotland
Will Johnson
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