Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

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John Matthews

Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av John Matthews » 01 mai 2007 07:19:18

I have recently exchanged e-mails with Graeme Heritage about the
ancestry of Alice Heritage. She married Peter Temple and is thus an
ancestor of many famous people including Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough
and Diana, Princess of Wales. Various visitation pedigrees -
Warwickshire, Buckinghamshire, Leicestershire - all give Alice's
father as John Eritage. This has been followed in other places (eg
Nichol's Leicestershire and on Leo van de Pas' Genealogics site).
However, NW Alcock in his book, "Warwickshire Grazier and London
Skinner: the account book of Peter Temple and Thomas Heritage" says
the "overall evidence makes it clear this is wrong". According to
Alcock, Alice was the daughter of Roger Heritage of Burton Dassett who
died in 1495. She was apparently one of eight children - four boys
(John, Thomas, Edward and William) and four girls (Agnes, Alice who
married Thomas Temple, another Alice who married someone called Palmer
and Kathryn). All are mentioned in Roger Heritage's will.

In his will, Peter Temple (Alice Heritage's son) mentions his uncle,
Thomas Heritage. Thomas Heritage died in 1537, and appointed another
Thomas Heritage and Peter Temple as his executors. Assuming he is the
Thomas mentioned as a son in the will of Roger Heritage (and this
identification appears to be accepted), he would be the brother of the
Alices mentioned in that will. The relationship between Thomas
Heritage and Peter Temple is reinforced by Temple's use of the rooms
in Lincoln's Inn paid for by Heritage who calls him "his kin". Whilst
the term "uncle" can be elastic, at face value this makes Peter Temple
the grandson of Roger Heritage not John Heritage.

If Allcock is right, that raises the question as to why the visitation
pedigrees are wrong. Clearly the information was supplied many years
later and is subject to human error. This may have been aided by a
coincidence in the descent of the land. Roger Heritage's leases on
land in Burton Dassett eventually pass to Peter Temple. But although
Peter is the grandson of Roger Heritage, Peter holds the land as a
result of his marriage to the widow of Thomas Heritage (the other
executor of uncle Thomas Heritage's will). He was (presumably) the
only son of John Heritage, the eldest son of Roger. Later generations
of the Temple family may have been aware that the land passed through
John Heritage and assumed he was an ancestor.

Does anyone have any information or theory that would shed some light
on this?

John Matthews

John Higgins

Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av John Higgins » 02 mai 2007 22:22:05

This is a most interesting note - it answers some questions and raises
others.

The first paragraph below says that Alice Heritage married Peter Temple,
while the second paragraph says Peter was the son of Alice. The pedigrees
I've seen for Temple of Stowe say that it was Peter's father Thomas who
married Alice Heritage - so the second paragraph is apparently the correct
one.

I'm confused by the statement that Peter Temple married the widow of Thomas
Heritage. I understood that Peter's wife was Millicent, dau. of William
Jekyll of Newington, Middlesex, but I have no information on a previous
marriage for Millicent. Also, an article on the Temple family in vol. 3 of
"Herald and Genealogist' says that Peter acquired Burton Dasset in 1560 by
purchase and doesn't mention him inheriting the estate.

There is another Heritage daughter in the ancestry of Princess Diana.
Peter's son John mar. Susan, dau. of Thomas Spencer of Everdon,
Northamptonshire. Thomas Spencer is shown in various pedigrees as the son
of William Spencer of Badly by Agnes, dau. of Thomas Heritage of Burton
Dasset. I imagine this Agnes and Thomas Heritage are somehow connected to
the others mentioned in this note, but I don't know how specifically.

It's useful to see a reference for the Heritage family, as it seems to have
missed entirely in the genealogical literature. The family is not mentioned
at all in Marshall's bibliography, and there's only a single reference in
Whitmore's sequel to Marshall. If anyone has further information on the
family or can answer the questions above, it would be very welcome.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Matthews" <rjmatsleepers@yahoo.co.uk>
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To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales


I have recently exchanged e-mails with Graeme Heritage about the
ancestry of Alice Heritage. She married Peter Temple and is thus an
ancestor of many famous people including Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough
and Diana, Princess of Wales. Various visitation pedigrees -
Warwickshire, Buckinghamshire, Leicestershire - all give Alice's
father as John Eritage. This has been followed in other places (eg
Nichol's Leicestershire and on Leo van de Pas' Genealogics site).
However, NW Alcock in his book, "Warwickshire Grazier and London
Skinner: the account book of Peter Temple and Thomas Heritage" says
the "overall evidence makes it clear this is wrong". According to
Alcock, Alice was the daughter of Roger Heritage of Burton Dassett who
died in 1495. She was apparently one of eight children - four boys
(John, Thomas, Edward and William) and four girls (Agnes, Alice who
married Thomas Temple, another Alice who married someone called Palmer
and Kathryn). All are mentioned in Roger Heritage's will.

In his will, Peter Temple (Alice Heritage's son) mentions his uncle,
Thomas Heritage. Thomas Heritage died in 1537, and appointed another
Thomas Heritage and Peter Temple as his executors. Assuming he is the
Thomas mentioned as a son in the will of Roger Heritage (and this
identification appears to be accepted), he would be the brother of the
Alices mentioned in that will. The relationship between Thomas
Heritage and Peter Temple is reinforced by Temple's use of the rooms
in Lincoln's Inn paid for by Heritage who calls him "his kin". Whilst
the term "uncle" can be elastic, at face value this makes Peter Temple
the grandson of Roger Heritage not John Heritage.

If Allcock is right, that raises the question as to why the visitation
pedigrees are wrong. Clearly the information was supplied many years
later and is subject to human error. This may have been aided by a
coincidence in the descent of the land. Roger Heritage's leases on
land in Burton Dassett eventually pass to Peter Temple. But although
Peter is the grandson of Roger Heritage, Peter holds the land as a
result of his marriage to the widow of Thomas Heritage (the other
executor of uncle Thomas Heritage's will). He was (presumably) the
only son of John Heritage, the eldest son of Roger. Later generations
of the Temple family may have been aware that the land passed through
John Heritage and assumed he was an ancestor.

Does anyone have any information or theory that would shed some light
on this?

John Matthews


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Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av John Matthews » 03 mai 2007 07:36:05

First of all, an apology for a slip of the pen - Alice Heritage did
indeed marry Thomas Temple. Peter Temple was their son. He became the
third husband of Millicent Jekyll, although her name was Millicent
Heritage when he married her.

As for the land at Burton Dassett - this was leased by Peter Temple
from the three co-owners from 1541 onwards. The lease (or perhaps
leases) had been held by Millicent's second husband (Thomas Heritage)
and passed to Peter Temple when he married her. In 1557 he began to
purchase an interest in the property as described above, Peter's son
John purchased another third of the manor in 1595. Shortly afterwards,
the land was divided and no longer held in co-ownership.

Apparently Allcock also disagrees with other accounts about the
ancestry of Agnes Heritage who married William Spencer of Badby. He
gives her as the daughter of Roger Heritage. There is certainly a
daughter Agnes mentioned in Roger's will. Incidentally, to increase
the confusion, Alcock says that the visitation pedigrees give Agnes'
father as John Heritage.

Alcock is a well respected researcher who quotes his sources and gives
the reasons for his conclusions. He is also the only person I'm aware
of who has published anything recently on the Heritages. If he is
wrong, the contrary argument deserves to be set down clearly. I
understand (from Graeme Heritage) that Christopher Dyer is preparing a
publication on John Heritage - the son of Roger Heritage. Perhaps this
will throw some light on the subject.

John Matthews

wjhonson

Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av wjhonson » 03 mai 2007 19:25:11

Can someone explain for me how Millicent Heritage is the daughter-in-
law of Peter Temple?
Thanks
Will Johnson

Lincolnshire Archives: Jarvis
JARVIS
Catalogue Ref. Jarvis
Creator(s): Jarvis family of Doddington, Lincolnshire
TITLE DEEDS AND SETTLEMENT
Warwickshire & Staffordshire - ref. JARVIS I/C
FILE - Marriage settlement - ref. JARVIS I/C/6 - date: 18 December
1565
[from Scope and Content] John Pulteney of Exhall, gentleman, to Peter
Temple of Burton iuxta Dasset, Warwickshire, John Temple, son and heir
of Peter Temple, and Henry Maver, alias Over, alderman of Coventry.
[from Scope and Content] Property In return for £70 paid to him by
Peter and John Temple John Poulteney covenanted to convey to Peter and
John Temple and Henry Maver all his property in Exhall, Fowrehyll,
Coventry, Burton, Corley, Bedworth, Burbury and Ansley, Warwickshire,
and in Claybrooke, Kent, for the use of himself and his future wife
Millicent Herytage, the daughter in law of Peter Temple.

Gjest

Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av Gjest » 03 mai 2007 19:58:58

On 3 Mai, 19:25, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
Can someone explain for me how Millicent Heritage is the daughter-in-
law of Peter Temple?

Will

Presumably it's an instance of the archaic use of the phrase to mean
"step-daughter"; according to John's note above, Peter Temple married
the widowed Millicent Heritage, so I suppose she had a daughter, also
Millicent, by her second (Heritage) marriage, who is the subject of
this settlement.

MA-R

John Higgins

Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av John Higgins » 03 mai 2007 23:01:38

Thanks for this additional information. I had wondered if Agnes Heritage
the wife of William Spencer of Badby was the Agnes who was mentioned as his
daughter in the will of Roger Heritage. Apparently Alcock came to that
conclusion. Since this seems to be the best available source of information
on this family, I will have to track it down via inter-library loan.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Matthews" <rjmatsleepers@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales


First of all, an apology for a slip of the pen - Alice Heritage did
indeed marry Thomas Temple. Peter Temple was their son. He became the
third husband of Millicent Jekyll, although her name was Millicent
Heritage when he married her.

As for the land at Burton Dassett - this was leased by Peter Temple
from the three co-owners from 1541 onwards. The lease (or perhaps
leases) had been held by Millicent's second husband (Thomas Heritage)
and passed to Peter Temple when he married her. In 1557 he began to
purchase an interest in the property as described above, Peter's son
John purchased another third of the manor in 1595. Shortly afterwards,
the land was divided and no longer held in co-ownership.

Apparently Allcock also disagrees with other accounts about the
ancestry of Agnes Heritage who married William Spencer of Badby. He
gives her as the daughter of Roger Heritage. There is certainly a
daughter Agnes mentioned in Roger's will. Incidentally, to increase
the confusion, Alcock says that the visitation pedigrees give Agnes'
father as John Heritage.

Alcock is a well respected researcher who quotes his sources and gives
the reasons for his conclusions. He is also the only person I'm aware
of who has published anything recently on the Heritages. If he is
wrong, the contrary argument deserves to be set down clearly. I
understand (from Graeme Heritage) that Christopher Dyer is preparing a
publication on John Heritage - the son of Roger Heritage. Perhaps this
will throw some light on the subject.

John Matthews


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Re: Alice Heritage, ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales

Legg inn av John Matthews » 04 mai 2007 06:43:40

On 3 May, 19:58, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 3 Mai, 19:25, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:

Can someone explain for me how Millicent Heritage is the daughter-in-
law of Peter Temple?

Will

Presumably it's an instance of the archaic use of the phrase to mean
"step-daughter"; according to John's note above, Peter Temple married
the widowed Millicent Heritage, so I suppose she had a daughter, also
Millicent, by her second (Heritage) marriage, who is the subject of
this settlement.

MA-R

Peter Temple apparently had 4 step daughters from his wife's first 2
marriages - Alice and Margaret Radcliffe from her first marriage and
Millicent and Margaret Heritage from her second.

BTW, despite being published in 1981, last I knew, Allcock's book was
still in print and available from Oxbow Books.

John Matthews

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