International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
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Brad Verity
International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
Thanks to Will Johnson, I've been exploring the database of the IGI.
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
Thanks and Cheers, -----Brad
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
Thanks and Cheers, -----Brad
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Gjest
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
On 19 Apr., 22:56, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The IGI is limited to only those registers generally available or for
whom the parishes gave permission to use; some Anglican churches
refused, because of the purposes to which the organisers intended to
put the records (ie postumous rebaptisms). Many entries therefore are
not directly taken from registers, but from other published sources
(eg bishops' licences) or from submissions by contributors - which are
the most likely to contain errors.
There are relatively few deaths/burials, because the religious
purposes which the organisers had in mind extended only to baptisms
and marriages.
Nevertheless, as a guide to primary records, it is an amazing tool.
Cheers, Michael
Thanks to Will Johnson, I've been exploring the database of the IGI.
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
Thanks and Cheers, -----Brad
The IGI is limited to only those registers generally available or for
whom the parishes gave permission to use; some Anglican churches
refused, because of the purposes to which the organisers intended to
put the records (ie postumous rebaptisms). Many entries therefore are
not directly taken from registers, but from other published sources
(eg bishops' licences) or from submissions by contributors - which are
the most likely to contain errors.
There are relatively few deaths/burials, because the religious
purposes which the organisers had in mind extended only to baptisms
and marriages.
Nevertheless, as a guide to primary records, it is an amazing tool.
Cheers, Michael
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Chris Dickinson
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
Brad Verity wrote:
No and no.
Not all parish registers have been filmed by the LDS and not all of those
have been extracted.
The IGI exists for the religious purposes of the LDS - for whom burials
aren't of any intrinsic interest; so you won't find many.
Chris
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
No and no.
Not all parish registers have been filmed by the LDS and not all of those
have been extracted.
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
The IGI exists for the religious purposes of the LDS - for whom burials
aren't of any intrinsic interest; so you won't find many.
Chris
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John Brandon
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
Thanks to Will Johnson, I've been exploring the database of the IGI.
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
Thanks and Cheers, -----Brad
To get the marriage entries (if any), change the first letter of the
batch to "M." Baptismal batches usually begin with "C," "P," or
sometimes "R."
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pj.evans
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
There are, unfortunately, a lot of records in the IGI that are taken
from 'patron sheets' or information 'submitted by an LDS member' and
have no real source information. They're not conspicuously different;
you have to check via the call number.
On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
from 'patron sheets' or information 'submitted by an LDS member' and
have no real source information. They're not conspicuously different;
you have to check via the call number.
On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 19 Apr., 22:56, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to Will Johnson, I've been exploring the database of the IGI.
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
Thanks and Cheers, -----Brad
The IGI is limited to only those registers generally available or for
whom the parishes gave permission to use; some Anglican churches
refused, because of the purposes to which the organisers intended to
put the records (ie postumous rebaptisms). Many entries therefore are
not directly taken from registers, but from other published sources
(eg bishops' licences) or from submissions by contributors - which are
the most likely to contain errors.
There are relatively few deaths/burials, because the religious
purposes which the organisers had in mind extended only to baptisms
and marriages.
Nevertheless, as a guide to primary records, it is an amazing tool.
Cheers, Michael
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Denis Beauregard
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
On 19 Apr 2007 14:56:38 -0700, Brad Verity <royaldescent@hotmail.com>
wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:
When I visited Salt Lake City in 1995, I saw at Hotel Utah the
original IGI sheets filled by the LDS membres. They included the
name of parents and children but you could link the sheets only
by the date of birth of parents. That was in a very huge room.
So, a part of IGI is made from those somewhat old family sheets
and since their purpose is to rebuild the family after death (a part
of the LDS belief), they don't need the date of death.
Another part is made from original records.
I don't know if there are statistics about the source of the IGI
data. I presume the family sheets were entered before enough
people used a computer and PAF (the LDS software) to enter data
so that the IGI family sheets would be quite old, AF or Ancestral
Files the next generation used by LDS members for baptisms and the
PF or Pedigree File are the current generation. AF is made from
GEDCOM and there was an attempt to remove the duplicate, but not in
PF.
In short:
- reliability depends on the source
- I don't think any area is fully covered. At most, it would be
some parishes and likely not a complete diocese.
Denis
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oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765
wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:
Thanks to Will Johnson, I've been exploring the database of the IGI.
Though the medieval-era entries are a mess, there is much worthwhile
once the era of the parish registers begins.
My first question is: are all the parish registers that survived the
centuries and that exist today in the IGI system? Or just the ones
that have been published?
Also, there seem to be much fewer burial entries than birth and
marriage entries. Is that the case, or am I searching wrong?
When I visited Salt Lake City in 1995, I saw at Hotel Utah the
original IGI sheets filled by the LDS membres. They included the
name of parents and children but you could link the sheets only
by the date of birth of parents. That was in a very huge room.
So, a part of IGI is made from those somewhat old family sheets
and since their purpose is to rebuild the family after death (a part
of the LDS belief), they don't need the date of death.
Another part is made from original records.
I don't know if there are statistics about the source of the IGI
data. I presume the family sheets were entered before enough
people used a computer and PAF (the LDS software) to enter data
so that the IGI family sheets would be quite old, AF or Ancestral
Files the next generation used by LDS members for baptisms and the
PF or Pedigree File are the current generation. AF is made from
GEDCOM and there was an attempt to remove the duplicate, but not in
PF.
In short:
- reliability depends on the source
- I don't think any area is fully covered. At most, it would be
some parishes and likely not a complete diocese.
Denis
--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765
oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginnings to 1765
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Brad Verity
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
On Apr 19, 3:26 pm, "Chris Dickinson" <c...@dickinson.uk.net> wrote:
Dear Chris, Michael, and everyone who responded,
Thank you for the explanations. Everything is much clearer to me
now. The IGI is a nice start, it seems, but the original parish
registers still need to be examined, and will probably offer up many
more dates, especially of burials.
Cheers, --------Brad
Not all parish registers have been filmed by the LDS and not all of those
have been extracted.
The IGI exists for the religious purposes of the LDS - for whom burials
aren't of any intrinsic interest; so you won't find many.
Dear Chris, Michael, and everyone who responded,
Thank you for the explanations. Everything is much clearer to me
now. The IGI is a nice start, it seems, but the original parish
registers still need to be examined, and will probably offer up many
more dates, especially of burials.
Cheers, --------Brad
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) Questions
In message of 20 Apr, Brad Verity <royaldescent@hotmail.com> wrote:
For other help on using IGI see part 5 of Roy Stockdill's Guide (right
down the end of the page):
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
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Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
On Apr 19, 3:26 pm, "Chris Dickinson" <c...@dickinson.uk.net> wrote:
Not all parish registers have been filmed by the LDS and not all of those
have been extracted.
The IGI exists for the religious purposes of the LDS - for whom burials
aren't of any intrinsic interest; so you won't find many.
Dear Chris, Michael, and everyone who responded,
Thank you for the explanations. Everything is much clearer to me
now. The IGI is a nice start, it seems, but the original parish
registers still need to be examined, and will probably offer up many
more dates, especially of burials.
For other help on using IGI see part 5 of Roy Stockdill's Guide (right
down the end of the page):
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: International Genealogy Index (IGI) & National Burial In
In article <1177044467.277720.29950@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Brad Verity <royaldescent@hotmail.com> wrote:
Brad,
Do you know of the 'National Burial Index'? This is a project to
coordinate volunteer extractions of burials in English parish registers,
on the assumption that if the Mormons are doing baptisms and marriages,
someone else should step in with burials. The whole thing (such as it
exists) is available on a website which can be searched for free, giving
year and county, but the individual records are then delivered a la
carte for a few pence. Coverage is also dependent on completed
volunteer work but I think there's a reasonable amount of momentum.
Check the search facility at:
http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/
The whole NBI has been released on CDROM as well.
Familyhistoryonline.net is a distinct organization which returns NBI
hits plus other databases, and presumably adds updates to the NBI as
they're made available. I've found it very useful, well worth the 10
pounds or so I've worked through there in the past year and a half. The
free initial search facility, is a great way for quick suggestive data
on surname distributions, variant spellings, etc., for a given period
(e.g. the 17th c.)
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net
Brad Verity <royaldescent@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 19, 3:26 pm, "Chris Dickinson" <c...@dickinson.uk.net> wrote:
Not all parish registers have been filmed by the LDS and not all of those
have been extracted.
The IGI exists for the religious purposes of the LDS - for whom burials
aren't of any intrinsic interest; so you won't find many.
Dear Chris, Michael, and everyone who responded,
Thank you for the explanations. Everything is much clearer to me
now. The IGI is a nice start, it seems, but the original parish
registers still need to be examined, and will probably offer up many
more dates, especially of burials.
Brad,
Do you know of the 'National Burial Index'? This is a project to
coordinate volunteer extractions of burials in English parish registers,
on the assumption that if the Mormons are doing baptisms and marriages,
someone else should step in with burials. The whole thing (such as it
exists) is available on a website which can be searched for free, giving
year and county, but the individual records are then delivered a la
carte for a few pence. Coverage is also dependent on completed
volunteer work but I think there's a reasonable amount of momentum.
Check the search facility at:
http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/
The whole NBI has been released on CDROM as well.
Familyhistoryonline.net is a distinct organization which returns NBI
hits plus other databases, and presumably adds updates to the NBI as
they're made available. I've found it very useful, well worth the 10
pounds or so I've worked through there in the past year and a half. The
free initial search facility, is a great way for quick suggestive data
on surname distributions, variant spellings, etc., for a given period
(e.g. the 17th c.)
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net