The Armytages of Kirklees Hall in Hartshead township in the West
Riding of Yorkshire (4 miles north of Huddersfield) claimed an ancient
lineage dating back to the reign of King Stephen. This may have been
an invention to disguise their mercantile roots. John Armytage (d.
1573), a yeoman, clothier and exporter from Farnley Tyas in Almondbury
parish (4 miles S.E. of Huddersfield), purchased the former
Benedictine nunnery of Kirklees from Robert Pilkington in 1564. It
was his grandson John Armytage of Kirklees (d. 1650) who raised the
family to the next social level when he was elected High Sheriff of
Yorkshire in 1614. The marriages of his 3 children reflect the
elevated status his office gave to the family: elder son and initial
heir John Armytage (c.1598-1624, s.p.) married in 1624, Dorothy
(1599-1683), daughter of Cyril Artington of Arthington; Elizabeth
Armytage (d. 1637) married in 1627, Sir John Savile of Lupset; and
younger son and next heir Francis Armytage (c.1600-1644) married in
1629, Katherine Danby. The Danbys were a distinguished Richmondshire
gentry family, but also held Farnley Hall and manor, 4 miles west of
Leeds, and by the beginning of the 17th century had a strong influence
in that growing city and surrounding areas in the West Riding.
Katherine brought the bloodline of Edward III to the Armytages of
Kirklees ... in pints. She has 11 descents from Joan Beaufort alone,
given below. Katherine's marriage to Francis Armytage took place five
years after her father's death, so it would have been arranged by her
mother, the staunchly Catholic Frances Parker Danby. Francis Armytage
was created a Baronet by Charles I in 1641, though it's not clear how
he earned the title. He died before inheriting Kirklees. Despite the
1st Baronet having 3 adult sons and the 2nd Baronet having 6 adult
sons, the Armytage male line descendants of Edward III lasted only two
generations, dying out in 1737, when a distant cousin Samuel Armytage
(no known descents from Edward III) inherited Kirklees and was created
a Baronet in his own right in 1738, and from whom the present Baronet
descends.
Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland (c.1379-1440) had two sons (F1
& K1) and 4 daughters (A1, B1, C1 & J1)
A1) Elizabeth Ferrers, Lady Greystoke (1393-1434), who had
A2) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (c.1414-1487), who had
A3) Elizabeth Greystoke (d. 1490) m. 1) Thomas, 5th Lord Scrope of
Masham (c.1430-1475), and had
A4) Margery Scrope (d. aft. 1531) m. 1493 Sir Christopher Danby of
Thorpe Perrow (d. 1518), and had
A5) Sir Christopher Danby of Thorpe Perrow (1503-1571) m. Elizabeth
Nevill (see below) and had
A6) Sir Thomas Danby of Thorpe Perrow (c.1520-1590) m. c.1560 Lady
Mary Nevill (see D6 below), and had
A7) Thomas Danby of Thorpe Perrow (by 1565-bef.1590) m. 1577 Elizabeth
Wentworth (see B9 below) and had
A8) Christopher Danby of Thorpe Perrow (1582-1624) m. Frances Parker
(see E8 below) and had
A9) Katherine Danby (1612-1646) m. 1629 Sir Francis Armytage, 1st
Baronet of Kirklees (c.1600-1644), and had
A10) Sir John Armytage, 2nd Baronet (1629-1677) m. 1651 Margaret
Thornhill (d. 1695), and had
A11) Sir George Armytage, 5th Baronet, 7th son (1660-1736)
B1) Mary Ferrers, Lady Neville of Oversley (1394-1458), who had
B2) John Neville of Oversley (d. 1482), who had
B3) Joan Neville m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne (d. 1463), and had
B4) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy
(see C3 below), and had
B5) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (1467-1551) m. 1) Alice
Frognall, and had
B6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (c.1490-15--) m. 2) Margaret
Fitzwilliam (see E4 below), and had
B7) William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (d. 1567) m. Beatrice Tempest, and
had
B8) Margaret Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (1537-1592) m. Thomas Wentworth of
Wentworth-Woodhouse (by 1530-1587), and had
B9) Elizabeth Wentworth (by 1565-1624) m. 1577 Thomas Danby (see A7
above)
C1) Eleanor Nevill, Countess of Northumberland (d. 1473), who had
(with E2 below)
C2) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), who had (with
D3 below)
C3) Margaret Percy m. Sir William Gascoigne (see B4 above)
D3) Henry Percy, 4th Earl of Northumberland (1449-1489) m. 1472 Maud
Herbert, and had
D4) Lady Eleanor Percy (c.1475-1530) m. 1490 Edward Stafford, 3rd Duke
of Buckingham (see J4 below), and had
D5) Lady Katherine Stafford (d. 1555) m. by 1520 Ralph Nevill, 4th
Earl of Westmorland (1498-1549, descended from Edward III but not thru
Joan Beaufort), and had
D6) Lady Mary Nevill (d. 1596) m. c.1560 Sir Thomas Danby (see A6
above)
E2) Anne Percy (c.1440-1522) m. 1) by 1460 Sir Thomas Hungerford (d.
1469), and had
E3) Mary, Lady Hungerford (1468-1533) m. 1) 1475 Edward Hastings, 2nd
Lord Hastings (see F3 below), and had
E4) Anne Hastings (d. 1550) m. 1505 Thomas Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby
(see H4 below), and had
E5) Edward Stanley, 3rd Earl of Derby (1509-1572) m. 1) 1530 Lady
Dorothy Howard, and had
E6) Lady Elizabeth Stanley (d. 1591) m. by 1550 Henry Parker, 11th
Lord Morley (1531-1577), and had
E7) Edward Parker, 12th Lord Morley (1550-1618) m. 1) Elizabeth
Stanley (see I6 below), and had
E8) Frances Parker m. 1) Christopher Danby (see A8 above)
F1) Richard Nevill, Earl of Salisbury (1400-1460), who had (with G2
and H2 below)
F2) Katherine Nevill (c.1440-1503) m. 2) 1461 William Hastings, 1st
Lord Hastings (c.1431-1483), and had
F3) Edward Hastings, 2nd Lord Hastings (1466-1506) m. 1475 Mary, Lady
Hungerford (see E3 above)
G2) John Nevill, Marquess of Montagu (1431-1471) m. 1457 Isabel
Ingaldesthorpe (c.1441-1476), and had
G3) Lucy Nevill (1468-1534) m. 1) c.1485 Sir Thomas Fitzwilliam of
Aldwark (1448-1498), and had
G4) Margaret Fitzwilliam (liv. 1542) m. Sir William Gascoigne of
Gawthorpe (see B6 above)
H2) Eleanor Nevill (c.1435-14--) m. 1454 Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of
Derby (d. 1504), and had (with I3 below)
H3) George Stanley, Lord Strange (c.1460-1503) m. Joan Strange (d.
1514), and had
H4) Thomas Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby (by 1485-1521) m. 1505 Anne
Hastings (see E4 above)
I3) Edward Stanley, 1st Lord Monteagle (d. 1523) m. 2) 1501 Elizabeth
Vaughan, and had
I4) Thomas Stanley, 2nd Lord Monteagle (1507-1560) m. 1) c.1528 Lady
Mary Brandon (c.1510-1544), and had
I5) William Stanley, 3rd Lord Monteagle (d. 1581) m. 1) Anne
Leybourne, and had
I6) Elizabeth Stanley (c.1558-1585) m. by 1575 Edward Parker, 12th
Lord Morley (see E7 above)
J1) Anne Nevill, Duchess of Buckingham (c.1406-1480), who had
J2) Humphrey Stafford, Earl of Stafford (c.1425-1455) m. Margaret
Beaufort (by 1430-1474, descended from Edward III but not thru Joan
Beaufort), and had
J3) Henry Stafford, 2nd Duke of Buckingham (1455-1483) m. 1466
Katherine Woodville (c.1458-1497), and had
J4) Edward Stafford, 3rd Duke of Buckingham (1478-1521) m. 1490 Lady
Eleanor Percy (see D4 above)
K1) George Nevill, 1st Lord Latimer (c.1411-1469), who had
K2) Sir Henry Nevill (d. 1469) m. Joan Bourchier (d. 1470, descended
from Edward III but not thru Joan Beaufort), and had
K3) Richard Nevill, 2nd Lord Latimer (1468-1530), who had
K4) Elizabeth Nevill (1500-15--) m. Sir Christopher Danby (see A5
above)
Cheers, ------Brad
Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Barone
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Gjest
Re: Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Ba
On 17 Apr., 21:44, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Brad
Thanks for this very timely post. I was chatting with a friend of
mine recently about genealogy; her second marriage was to a Lefroy,
and she has much material on that family which is of interest to me,
but it transpires that her first husband was an Armytage, and she has
some (I think privately printed, circa 1920) material on that family,
of Almondbury, Wrigbowls etc. I only had a quick glance through it,
but felt that the early lines were highly dubious - connection (de
Rye) with a wife of one of the Mandevilles of Essex and so forth. Do
you know of any good source discussing the apparent invention of their
early genealogy?
Regards, Michael
The Armytages of Kirklees Hall in Hartshead township in the West
Riding of Yorkshire (4 miles north of Huddersfield) claimed an ancient
lineage dating back to the reign of King Stephen. This may have been
an invention to disguise their mercantile roots.
Brad
Thanks for this very timely post. I was chatting with a friend of
mine recently about genealogy; her second marriage was to a Lefroy,
and she has much material on that family which is of interest to me,
but it transpires that her first husband was an Armytage, and she has
some (I think privately printed, circa 1920) material on that family,
of Almondbury, Wrigbowls etc. I only had a quick glance through it,
but felt that the early lines were highly dubious - connection (de
Rye) with a wife of one of the Mandevilles of Essex and so forth. Do
you know of any good source discussing the apparent invention of their
early genealogy?
Regards, Michael
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wjhonson
Re: Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Ba
Very interesting.
I just want to add that the Samuel Armytages weren't quite that
distant, as the family was already established in the same church
(Hartshead, Yorkshire) were all of Francis Armytage and Catherine
Danby's own children were baptised (from 1629 to 1643, ten children,
for those keeping count)
Will Johnson
I just want to add that the Samuel Armytages weren't quite that
distant, as the family was already established in the same church
(Hartshead, Yorkshire) were all of Francis Armytage and Catherine
Danby's own children were baptised (from 1629 to 1643, ten children,
for those keeping count)
Will Johnson
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Brad Verity
Re: Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Ba
On Apr 17, 2:31 pm, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
Dear Michael,
Sorry to say I don't. I used the following two websites for my
background info on the family:
http://thearmitages.net/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane ... ytage.html
I came to the conclusion that if the earliest traceable Armytage was
the merchant who bought Kirklees in 1564, then suddenly a pedigree of
the family appears in 1637 that traces it back to King Stephen's
reign, something seems fishy. Norroy Herald Richard St. George must
have made a lot of money on that one!
Cheers, -------Brad
Thanks for this very timely post. I was chatting with a friend of
mine recently about genealogy; her second marriage was to a Lefroy,
and she has much material on that family which is of interest to me,
but it transpires that her first husband was an Armytage, and she has
some (I think privately printed, circa 1920) material on that family,
of Almondbury, Wrigbowls etc. I only had a quick glance through it,
but felt that the early lines were highly dubious - connection (de
Rye) with a wife of one of the Mandevilles of Essex and so forth. Do
you know of any good source discussing the apparent invention of their
early genealogy?
Dear Michael,
Sorry to say I don't. I used the following two websites for my
background info on the family:
http://thearmitages.net/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane ... ytage.html
I came to the conclusion that if the earliest traceable Armytage was
the merchant who bought Kirklees in 1564, then suddenly a pedigree of
the family appears in 1637 that traces it back to King Stephen's
reign, something seems fishy. Norroy Herald Richard St. George must
have made a lot of money on that one!
Cheers, -------Brad
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Ba
In message of 17 Apr, mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
CP V, 119 says of Wm Mandeville, 3rd earl of Essex (d. 1189) that he
dspl. As yet I have not found any of his illegitimate offspring, though
there is one, an Amicia who m. a Humfrey Barrington (or Barentone), that
may be his. Some of the apparently invented genealogy may be of these
illegitimate lines.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
On 17 Apr., 21:44, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The Armytages of Kirklees Hall in Hartshead township in the West
Riding of Yorkshire (4 miles north of Huddersfield) claimed an ancient
lineage dating back to the reign of King Stephen. This may have been
an invention to disguise their mercantile roots.
Brad
Thanks for this very timely post. I was chatting with a friend of
mine recently about genealogy; her second marriage was to a Lefroy,
and she has much material on that family which is of interest to me,
but it transpires that her first husband was an Armytage, and she has
some (I think privately printed, circa 1920) material on that family,
of Almondbury, Wrigbowls etc. I only had a quick glance through it,
but felt that the early lines were highly dubious - connection (de
Rye) with a wife of one of the Mandevilles of Essex and so forth. Do
you know of any good source discussing the apparent invention of their
early genealogy?
CP V, 119 says of Wm Mandeville, 3rd earl of Essex (d. 1189) that he
dspl. As yet I have not found any of his illegitimate offspring, though
there is one, an Amicia who m. a Humfrey Barrington (or Barentone), that
may be his. Some of the apparently invented genealogy may be of these
illegitimate lines.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Gjest
Re: Descents From Edward III For Sir George Armytage, 5th Ba
On Apr 18, 11:11 am, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
Thanks Tim - I'll dig out the brief notes I took from the Armytage
material, but as I recall it, the alleged descent was from a daughter
or sister of one of the Huberts de Rie/Rye; the mother of William de
Mandeville, Earl of Essex, is sometimes referred to as Margaret de
Rie. I took it with a large lick of salt.
MA-R
In message of 17 Apr, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 17 Apr., 21:44, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The Armytages of Kirklees Hall in Hartshead township in the West
Riding of Yorkshire (4 miles north of Huddersfield) claimed an ancient
lineage dating back to the reign of King Stephen. This may have been
an invention to disguise their mercantile roots.
Brad
Thanks for this very timely post. I was chatting with a friend of
mine recently about genealogy; her second marriage was to a Lefroy,
and she has much material on that family which is of interest to me,
but it transpires that her first husband was an Armytage, and she has
some (I think privately printed, circa 1920) material on that family,
of Almondbury, Wrigbowls etc. I only had a quick glance through it,
but felt that the early lines were highly dubious - connection (de
Rye) with a wife of one of the Mandevilles of Essex and so forth. Do
you know of any good source discussing the apparent invention of their
early genealogy?
CP V, 119 says of Wm Mandeville, 3rd earl of Essex (d. 1189) that he
dspl. As yet I have not found any of his illegitimate offspring, though
there is one, an Amicia who m. a Humfrey Barrington (or Barentone), that
may be his. Some of the apparently invented genealogy may be of these
illegitimate lines.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe
Thanks Tim - I'll dig out the brief notes I took from the Armytage
material, but as I recall it, the alleged descent was from a daughter
or sister of one of the Huberts de Rie/Rye; the mother of William de
Mandeville, Earl of Essex, is sometimes referred to as Margaret de
Rie. I took it with a large lick of salt.
MA-R