Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

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Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

Legg inn av Gjest » 17 apr 2007 19:01:55

Pedigree "A"
01. George "Scanderbeg" Castriota, King/Mempret of Albania (1403 -
1468)
= Andronika Arianiti Komnena (d 1500), daughter of Giorgio Arianiti
Komnenos, Lord of Cermenika, Mokr and Shpat
02. Giovanni Castriota, King of Albania, 1st Duke of San Pietro (ca
1452 - 1514)
= Princess Jerina Brankovic, daughter of Lazar III Brankovic, King of
Serbia
and Helene, Princess Imperial of the Romans
03. Ferrante Castriota, 2nd Duke of San Pietro (d 1561)
= Porcia de Urrisio
04. Pardo Castriota Scanderbeg, Patrician of Lecce (d after 1596)
= Antonella Stefagnoli, daughter of Giovanni Pietro Stefagnoli
05. Fabio Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1574 - 1615)
= Antonia Verdesca, daughter of Francesco Verdesca
06. [name]
07. Constantino Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1616 - 1643)
= Donata Curchi, daughter of Carlo Curchi
08. [name]
09. Vitantonio Castriota Scanderbeg (1641 - 1716)
= Isabella Castriota Scanderbeg [distant cousin], daughter of Federico
Castriota Scanderbeg
10. Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1659 - 1743)
= Guiseppa de Torres, daughter of Marquess Luca de Torres
11. Vitantonio Castriota Scanderbeg (1717 - 1811)
= Doneca Castriota, daughter of Federico Castriota
12. Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1748 - 1803)
= Angela Rosa, daughter of Baron Giovanni Battista Lentini
13. Giorgio Castriota Scanderbeg (1796 - 1846)
= Carlotta Lopez y Rojo, daughter of Bartolomeo Lopez y Rojo, of the
dukes of Taurisano
14. Francesco Castriota Scanderbeg (1840 - 1923)
= Rosa Castro, daughter of Paolo Castro
15. Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1881 - 1967)
= Maria Sofia Caterina
16. Carelli Cantelmo Stuart
= [name] Princess of Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia; Duchess of
Popoli, Sicignano, Apice, Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella;
daughter of Giuseppe Carlo Carelli
17. Carlo Francesco Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1921 - 2002)
= Harriet Elizabeth McCarthy, daughter of Connor Francis McCarthy, of
the princes of Carbery
18. Connor Francis Constantine Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (b1980), whose sister is Jennifer
Sarah Castriota Scanderbeg (b1990), compare below
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Pedigree "B"
01. Leonardo III di Tocco, Prince of Romania, Prince of Achaia, Duke
of Lefkas, Count of Zakinthos and Kefallinia (d ca 1500)
= Princess Milika Brankovic (d 1464), daughter of Lazar III Brankovic,
King of Serbia and Helene, Princess Imperial of the Romans, Princess
of Bisanzio
02. Carlo III di Tocco, Prince of Romania, Prince of Achaia, Duke of
Lefkas,
Count of Zakinthos and Kefallinia (1464 - 1518)
= Andronika Arianiti Komnena
03. Leonardo IV di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Count of Zakinthos (d
1570)
= Graziola Colli
04. Francesco di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Count of Zakinthos (d 1596)
=Veronica Malaspina
05. Leonardo V di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (1591 -
1641)
= Francesca Pignatelli
06. Antonio I di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (d 1670)
= Ippolita di Tocco
07. Leonardo VI di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (d 1678)
= Beatrice Ventimiglia (d 1711)
08. Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto, Prince of Achaia, 2nd
Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (d 1701)
= Livia Sanseverino (1672 - 1749)
09. Leonardo VII di Tocco, 4th Prince of Montemiletto, Prince of
Achaia, 3rd
Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (1698 - 1776)
= Camilla Cantelmo Stuart, 4th Princess of Pettorano, 9th Duchess of
Popoli (1700 - 1752)
10. Restaino Gioacchino di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart, 5th Prince of
Montemiletto, 5th Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 10th Duke of
Popoli, 4th Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (1730 - 1796)
= Maria Camilla Cybo Malaspina (1728-1760)
11. Carlo di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart, 6th Prince of Montemiletto, 6th
Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 11th Duke of Popoli (1756 -
1807)
= Princess Maria Antonia Carafa Cantelmo Stuart (1763 - 1823)
12. Maria Maddalena di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart (1786 - 1850)
= Francesco Capece Galeota, Duca della Regina, Duke of Sant'Angelo a
Fasanella (1783 - 1838)
13. Carlo Capece Galeota, 9th Prince of Montemiletto, 9th Prince of
Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 14th Duke of Popoli, 8th Duke of
Sicignano
14. Apice, Duke of Regina, Duke of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1824 -
1898)
= Maria Maddalena Carafa (1826 - 1864)
15. Maria Maddalena Capece Galeota Cantelmo Stuart (1859 - 1932)
= Giuseppe Carlo Carelli (1857 - 1917)
16. Maria Sofia Caterina Carelli Cantelmo Stuart, 11th Princess of
Montemiletto, 11th Princess of Pettorano, Princess of Achaia, 16th
Duchess of Popoli, 10th Duchess of Sicignano, 10th Duchess of Apice,
Duchess of Regina, Duchess of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1893 - 1976)
= Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1881 - 1967)
17. Carlo Francesco Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg, 12th Prince of
Montemiletto, 12th Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 17th Duke
of
Popoli, 11th Duke of Sicignano, 11th Duke of Apice, Duke of Regina,
Duke of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1921 - 2002)
= Harriet Elizabeth McCarthy (b1947), daughter of Connor Francis
McCarthy, of the princes of Carbery
18A Connor Francis Constantine Castriota Scanderbeg (b1980),
Prince of Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli,
Sicignano, Apice, Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella, Marquess of
Montefalcione, Serra, and Manocalzate, Count of Montaperto, Lord of
Refrancore, Fontanarosa, and Torreleoncello, Patrician of Lecce, whose
sister is (18B) Jennifer Sarah Castriota Scanderbeg (b1990)
compare above

Peter Stewart

Re: Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 18 apr 2007 02:28:44

On Apr 18, 4:01 am, PIPPHILLIP...@AOL.com wrote:

<snip>

17. Carlo Francesco Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1921 - 2002)
= Harriet Elizabeth McCarthy, daughter of Connor Francis McCarthy, of
the princes of Carbery
18. Connor Francis Constantine Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (b1980), whose sister is Jennifer
Sarah Castriota Scanderbeg (b1990), compare below

O dear - this scion of the Scanderbegs and the "princes" of Carbery,
"duke of Popoli", wouldn't happen to be the purported Italian duke
whose alleged library holdings occasioned your flat lie about the
contents of Giovan Baptista Pigna's _Historia dei principi d'Este_
(Ferrara, 1570), that you have still not withdrawn despite proof of
the falsehood, or would he?

Peter Stewart

Akrogiali

Re: Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

Legg inn av Akrogiali » 18 apr 2007 03:10:40

<PIPPHILLIPS18@AOL.com> wrote in message
news:1176832915.519941.163670@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Pedigree "A"
01. George "Scanderbeg" Castriota, King/Mempret of Albania (1403 -
1468)
= Andronika Arianiti Komnena (d 1500), daughter of Giorgio Arianiti
Komnenos, Lord of Cermenika, Mokr and Shpat
02. Giovanni Castriota, King of Albania, 1st Duke of San Pietro (ca
1452 - 1514)
= Princess Jerina Brankovic, daughter of Lazar III Brankovic, King of
Serbia
and Helene, Princess Imperial of the Romans
03. Ferrante Castriota, 2nd Duke of San Pietro (d 1561)
= Porcia de Urrisio

Ferrante Castriota: Didn't he married Andreana Aquaviva d'Aragon and had
thre children: Irene, Achileas and Frederic???
Pardo was an illegitimate Sohn.


04. Pardo Castriota Scanderbeg, Patrician of Lecce (d after 1596)
= Antonella Stefagnoli, daughter of Giovanni Pietro Stefagnoli
05. Fabio Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1574 - 1615)
= Antonia Verdesca, daughter of Francesco Verdesca
06. [name]
07. Constantino Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1616 - 1643)
= Donata Curchi, daughter of Carlo Curchi
08. [name]

???

09. Vitantonio Castriota Scanderbeg (1641 - 1716)
= Isabella Castriota Scanderbeg [distant cousin], daughter of Federico
Castriota Scanderbeg
10. Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1659 - 1743)
= Guiseppa de Torres, daughter of Marquess Luca de Torres
11. Vitantonio Castriota Scanderbeg (1717 - 1811)
= Doneca Castriota, daughter of Federico Castriota

Daugher of Federico Castriota of Kalimera

12. Alessandro Castriota Scanderbeg (1748 - 1803)
= Angela Rosa, daughter of Baron Giovanni Battista Lentini
Alessandro Castriota, Gov of Reale married Angela Rosa LENTINI, dau of

Giovanni Battista Lentini


13. Giorgio Castriota Scanderbeg (1796 - 1846)
= Carlotta Lopez y Rojo, daughter of Bartolomeo Lopez y Rojo, of the
dukes of Taurisano
14. Francesco Castriota Scanderbeg (1840 - 1923)
= Rosa Castro, daughter of Paolo Castro

?????????????????????????????????/

15. Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1881 - 1967)
= Maria Sofia Caterina
16. Carelli Cantelmo Stuart
= [name] Princess of Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia; Duchess of
Popoli, Sicignano, Apice, Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella;
daughter of Giuseppe Carlo Carelli
17. Carlo Francesco Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1921 - 2002)
= Harriet Elizabeth McCarthy, daughter of Connor Francis McCarthy, of
the princes of Carbery
18. Connor Francis Constantine Castriota Scanderbeg, Prince of
Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli, Sicignano, Apice,
Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (b1980), whose sister is Jennifer
Sarah Castriota Scanderbeg (b1990), compare below
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Pedigree "B"
01. Leonardo III di Tocco, Prince of Romania, Prince of Achaia, Duke
of Lefkas, Count of Zakinthos and Kefallinia (d ca 1500)
= Princess Milika Brankovic (d 1464), daughter of Lazar III Brankovic,
King of Serbia and Helene, Princess Imperial of the Romans, Princess
of Bisanzio

To my knowledge, he was Despot of Romania, Duke of Lefkada; Lord of
Angelocastron and Lord of Vonitza.


02. Carlo III di Tocco, Prince of Romania, Prince of Achaia, Duke of
Lefkas,
Count of Zakinthos and Kefallinia (1464 - 1518)
= Andronika Arianiti Komnena

Carlo II was Duke of Lefkada, Despot of Arta, Count of Zante


03. Leonardo IV di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Count of Zakinthos (d
1570)
= Graziola Colli

Despot of Arta, Count of Zante

04. Francesco di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Count of Zakinthos (d 1596)
=Veronica Malaspina

05. Leonardo V di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (1591 -
1641)
= Francesca Pignatelli

Lord of Refrancore


06. Antonio I di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (d 1670)
= Ippolita di Tocco

Prince of Montemiletto, Lord of Apice, Count of Montaperto:

Although I am not claiming to be an expert, you have TOO many Princess.
Obviously we read different books.



07. Leonardo VI di Tocco, Prince of Achaia, Lord of Apice (d 1678)
= Beatrice Ventimiglia (d 1711)
08. Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto, Prince of Achaia, 2nd
Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (d 1701)
= Livia Sanseverino (1672 - 1749)
09. Leonardo VII di Tocco, 4th Prince of Montemiletto, Prince of
Achaia, 3rd
Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (1698 - 1776)
= Camilla Cantelmo Stuart, 4th Princess of Pettorano, 9th Duchess of
Popoli (1700 - 1752)
10. Restaino Gioacchino di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart, 5th Prince of
Montemiletto, 5th Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 10th Duke of
Popoli, 4th Duke of Sicignano, Duke of Apice (1730 - 1796)
= Maria Camilla Cybo Malaspina (1728-1760)
11. Carlo di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart, 6th Prince of Montemiletto, 6th
Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 11th Duke of Popoli (1756 -
1807)
= Princess Maria Antonia Carafa Cantelmo Stuart (1763 - 1823)
12. Maria Maddalena di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart (1786 - 1850)
= Francesco Capece Galeota, Duca della Regina, Duke of Sant'Angelo a
Fasanella (1783 - 1838)
13. Carlo Capece Galeota, 9th Prince of Montemiletto, 9th Prince of
Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 14th Duke of Popoli, 8th Duke of
Sicignano
14. Apice, Duke of Regina, Duke of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1824 -
1898)
= Maria Maddalena Carafa (1826 - 1864)
15. Maria Maddalena Capece Galeota Cantelmo Stuart (1859 - 1932)
= Giuseppe Carlo Carelli (1857 - 1917)
16. Maria Sofia Caterina Carelli Cantelmo Stuart, 11th Princess of
Montemiletto, 11th Princess of Pettorano, Princess of Achaia, 16th
Duchess of Popoli, 10th Duchess of Sicignano, 10th Duchess of Apice,
Duchess of Regina, Duchess of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1893 - 1976)
= Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg (1881 - 1967)
17. Carlo Francesco Constantino Castriota Scanderbeg, 12th Prince of
Montemiletto, 12th Prince of Pettorano, Prince of Achaia, 17th Duke
of
Popoli, 11th Duke of Sicignano, 11th Duke of Apice, Duke of Regina,
Duke of Sant'Angelo a Fasanella (1921 - 2002)
= Harriet Elizabeth McCarthy (b1947), daughter of Connor Francis
McCarthy, of the princes of Carbery
18A Connor Francis Constantine Castriota Scanderbeg (b1980),
Prince of Montemiletto, Pettorano, and Achaia, Duke of Popoli,
Sicignano, Apice, Regina, and Sant'Angelo a Fasanella, Marquess of
Montefalcione, Serra, and Manocalzate, Count of Montaperto, Lord of
Refrancore, Fontanarosa, and Torreleoncello, Patrician of Lecce, whose
sister is (18B) Jennifer Sarah Castriota Scanderbeg (b1990)
compare above

Gjest

Re: Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

Legg inn av Gjest » 18 apr 2007 15:35:51

Thank you akrogiali@westnet.com.au for your constructive criticism,
unlike that silly little pimple of a person Peter Stewart who offers
nothing of value

pip phillips

Peter Stewart

Re: Scanderbeg, two descent-lines

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 19 apr 2007 02:04:36

On Apr 19, 12:35 am, PIPPHILLIP...@AOL.com wrote:
Thank you akrogi...@westnet.com.au for your constructive criticism,
unlike that silly little pimple of a person Peter Stewart who offers
nothing of value

pip phillips

But even a "little pimple of a person" can be - and has been - lied
to.

The opinions of Pip Phillips will be more likely to carry some
credibility here when his (or perhaps her) false assertion on 25 March
(in a post calling me "nuts") about the pedigree given for the Estensi
in Pigna's book is explained.

I provided a link to the title page and a few other pages in the book
that clearly show my guess was right. Is this really "nothing of
value" in your view, when you had flatly contradicted the facts? If
so, and until this matter is honestly addressed by you, we will know
what value to place on your posts from now on.

Peter Stewart

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