I am researching the origins of one of my ancestors, an Englishman
named Theophilus Elsworth, who married a Dutch woman and settled in
Nieuw Amsterdam during the mid-17th century.
The marriage proclamation of Theophilus Elsworth and Annetje Jans is
dated June 1, 1647 in Amsterdam. In it he is described as "Theophilus
Elswaert" of Bristol, mariner, 22 years old, having no parents living.
His bride is 24 and is native of Amsterdam. In the 1650s Theophilus
and Annetje emigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (later New York City) where
they produced a large family, their daughter Christina (Styntje) being
one of my ancestresses. Their children were Bridget (Brechie), Judith
(Judike), Elizabeth (Lysbeth), Christina (Styntje), Clement, George
(Joris), John (Johannes), and William (Willem). Their father's name is
listed several different ways in the Dutch records of the time; he's
called "Theovenius Esdras" in his daughter Judike's baptism record.
A will of "Theophilus Ellsworth", shoemaker, is dated January 12 1706,
and in 1712 administration of his estate is granted to his son
Clement, a shipwright. Are there baptismal records extant for Bristol
wherein I might find Theophilus?
ELSWORTH of Bristol and New Amsterdam
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Gjest
Re: ELSWORTH of Bristol and New Amsterdam
On 28 Mrz., 02:44, Mississippie...@gmail.com wrote:
Phillimore's Atlas & Index to Parish Registers lists new fewer than 21
Bristol churches with surviving registers. Of therese, only 12 extend
back to the beginning of the 17th century (which means either they
were not founded until after then, or their earlier registers are no
longer extant); several of these go back to the 1530s, which is as
good as any parish register in England. However, details of only
three have been extracted onto the IGI (sub Gloucestershire, on the
fiche version, I presume). There are some copies at the Society of
Genealogists' Library in London, but none goes further back than
1669. Most (but not all) of the early registers have been deposited
with the Bristol Records Office.
Adding to your difficulty, given the nature of Bristol as a magnet for
young men seeking work, particular mariners, there is every chance
that your Theophilus merely came from Bristol (ie he was settled there
before coming to America) but was not born there. You might have more
luck getting relevant advice on the British Genealogy group, as the
time-frame here is slightly out of this group's focus.
Best of luck, Michael
I am researching the origins of one of my ancestors, an Englishman
named Theophilus Elsworth, who married a Dutch woman and settled in
Nieuw Amsterdam during the mid-17th century.
The marriage proclamation of Theophilus Elsworth and Annetje Jans is
dated June 1, 1647 in Amsterdam. In it he is described as "Theophilus
Elswaert" of Bristol, mariner, 22 years old, having no parents living.
His bride is 24 and is native of Amsterdam. In the 1650s Theophilus
and Annetje emigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (later New York City) where
they produced a large family, their daughter Christina (Styntje) being
one of my ancestresses. Their children were Bridget (Brechie), Judith
(Judike), Elizabeth (Lysbeth), Christina (Styntje), Clement, George
(Joris), John (Johannes), and William (Willem). Their father's name is
listed several different ways in the Dutch records of the time; he's
called "Theovenius Esdras" in his daughter Judike's baptism record.
A will of "Theophilus Ellsworth", shoemaker, is dated January 12 1706,
and in 1712 administration of his estate is granted to his son
Clement, a shipwright. Are there baptismal records extant for Bristol
wherein I might find Theophilus?
Phillimore's Atlas & Index to Parish Registers lists new fewer than 21
Bristol churches with surviving registers. Of therese, only 12 extend
back to the beginning of the 17th century (which means either they
were not founded until after then, or their earlier registers are no
longer extant); several of these go back to the 1530s, which is as
good as any parish register in England. However, details of only
three have been extracted onto the IGI (sub Gloucestershire, on the
fiche version, I presume). There are some copies at the Society of
Genealogists' Library in London, but none goes further back than
1669. Most (but not all) of the early registers have been deposited
with the Bristol Records Office.
Adding to your difficulty, given the nature of Bristol as a magnet for
young men seeking work, particular mariners, there is every chance
that your Theophilus merely came from Bristol (ie he was settled there
before coming to America) but was not born there. You might have more
luck getting relevant advice on the British Genealogy group, as the
time-frame here is slightly out of this group's focus.
Best of luck, Michael
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Chris Dickinson
Re: ELSWORTH of Bristol and New Amsterdam
Your first step probably should be to email Bristol Record Office and ask
them what registers are available.
Parish registers of this period can be very fragile and faded and almost
impossible to read. You need to know not only what registers are extant but
also whether transcripts are available. The local record office is most
likely to be able to advise you on the current situation (and on probate).
And, if you want to pay, they could do a search or Elsworth extraction for
you:
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/navigatio ... 431E8865D5
I notice that their catalogue lists 'notes on the Elsworth family' by C.R.
Huddleston. This also comes up on A2A. C Roy Hudleston is more often
mentioned in this newsgroup for his publication 'Cumberland Families and
Heraldry'.
Chris
<mjcar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1175063340.220436.120000@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
them what registers are available.
Parish registers of this period can be very fragile and faded and almost
impossible to read. You need to know not only what registers are extant but
also whether transcripts are available. The local record office is most
likely to be able to advise you on the current situation (and on probate).
And, if you want to pay, they could do a search or Elsworth extraction for
you:
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/navigatio ... 431E8865D5
I notice that their catalogue lists 'notes on the Elsworth family' by C.R.
Huddleston. This also comes up on A2A. C Roy Hudleston is more often
mentioned in this newsgroup for his publication 'Cumberland Families and
Heraldry'.
Chris
<mjcar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1175063340.220436.120000@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 28 Mrz., 02:44, Mississippie...@gmail.com wrote:
I am researching the origins of one of my ancestors, an Englishman
named Theophilus Elsworth, who married a Dutch woman and settled in
Nieuw Amsterdam during the mid-17th century.
The marriage proclamation of Theophilus Elsworth and Annetje Jans is
dated June 1, 1647 in Amsterdam. In it he is described as "Theophilus
Elswaert" of Bristol, mariner, 22 years old, having no parents living.
His bride is 24 and is native of Amsterdam. In the 1650s Theophilus
and Annetje emigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (later New York City) where
they produced a large family, their daughter Christina (Styntje) being
one of my ancestresses. Their children were Bridget (Brechie), Judith
(Judike), Elizabeth (Lysbeth), Christina (Styntje), Clement, George
(Joris), John (Johannes), and William (Willem). Their father's name is
listed several different ways in the Dutch records of the time; he's
called "Theovenius Esdras" in his daughter Judike's baptism record.
A will of "Theophilus Ellsworth", shoemaker, is dated January 12 1706,
and in 1712 administration of his estate is granted to his son
Clement, a shipwright. Are there baptismal records extant for Bristol
wherein I might find Theophilus?
Phillimore's Atlas & Index to Parish Registers lists new fewer than 21
Bristol churches with surviving registers. Of therese, only 12 extend
back to the beginning of the 17th century (which means either they
were not founded until after then, or their earlier registers are no
longer extant); several of these go back to the 1530s, which is as
good as any parish register in England. However, details of only
three have been extracted onto the IGI (sub Gloucestershire, on the
fiche version, I presume). There are some copies at the Society of
Genealogists' Library in London, but none goes further back than
1669. Most (but not all) of the early registers have been deposited
with the Bristol Records Office.
Adding to your difficulty, given the nature of Bristol as a magnet for
young men seeking work, particular mariners, there is every chance
that your Theophilus merely came from Bristol (ie he was settled there
before coming to America) but was not born there. You might have more
luck getting relevant advice on the British Genealogy group, as the
time-frame here is slightly out of this group's focus.
Best of luck, Michael
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Gjest
Re: ELSWORTH of Bristol and New Amsterdam
On Mar 28, 1:29 am, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
Thanks! I will look into those sources. I wasn't purposefully trying
to be off-topic, I've seen posts before concerning early American
emigrants and thought that was acceptable.
http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~byzantium/Mdv.html
On 28 Mrz., 02:44, Mississippie...@gmail.com wrote:
I am researching the origins of one of my ancestors, an Englishman
named Theophilus Elsworth, who married a Dutch woman and settled in
Nieuw Amsterdam during the mid-17th century.
The marriage proclamation of Theophilus Elsworth and Annetje Jans is
dated June 1, 1647 in Amsterdam. In it he is described as "Theophilus
Elswaert" of Bristol, mariner, 22 years old, having no parents living.
His bride is 24 and is native of Amsterdam. In the 1650s Theophilus
and Annetje emigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (later New York City) where
they produced a large family, their daughter Christina (Styntje) being
one of my ancestresses. Their children were Bridget (Brechie), Judith
(Judike), Elizabeth (Lysbeth), Christina (Styntje), Clement, George
(Joris), John (Johannes), and William (Willem). Their father's name is
listed several different ways in the Dutch records of the time; he's
called "Theovenius Esdras" in his daughter Judike's baptism record.
A will of "Theophilus Ellsworth", shoemaker, is dated January 12 1706,
and in 1712 administration of his estate is granted to his son
Clement, a shipwright. Are there baptismal records extant for Bristol
wherein I might find Theophilus?
Phillimore's Atlas & Index to Parish Registers lists new fewer than 21
Bristol churches with surviving registers. Of therese, only 12 extend
back to the beginning of the 17th century (which means either they
were not founded until after then, or their earlier registers are no
longer extant); several of these go back to the 1530s, which is as
good as any parish register in England. However, details of only
three have been extracted onto the IGI (sub Gloucestershire, on the
fiche version, I presume). There are some copies at the Society of
Genealogists' Library in London, but none goes further back than
1669. Most (but not all) of the early registers have been deposited
with the Bristol Records Office.
Adding to your difficulty, given the nature of Bristol as a magnet for
young men seeking work, particular mariners, there is every chance
that your Theophilus merely came from Bristol (ie he was settled there
before coming to America) but was not born there. You might have more
luck getting relevant advice on the British Genealogy group, as the
time-frame here is slightly out of this group's focus.
Best of luck, Michael- Hide quoted text -
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Hi Michael,
Thanks! I will look into those sources. I wasn't purposefully trying
to be off-topic, I've seen posts before concerning early American
emigrants and thought that was acceptable.
http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~byzantium/Mdv.html
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Gjest
Re: ELSWORTH of Bristol and New Amsterdam
On 2 Apr., 00:04, Mississippie...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a problem - you could be forgiven for thinking all kinds of weird
stuff was on-topic here at the moment! Following Chris's useful
additions, it seems Bristol Record Office is your best bet. You might
also like to try some of the Gloucestershire wills, which have printed
indexes (British Record Society series, I think), in case this gives
you any pointers about where the surname was in use at the time.
Cheers, Michael
On Mar 28, 1:29 am, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 28 Mrz., 02:44, Mississippie...@gmail.com wrote:
I am researching the origins of one of my ancestors, an Englishman
named Theophilus Elsworth, who married a Dutch woman and settled in
Nieuw Amsterdam during the mid-17th century.
The marriage proclamation of Theophilus Elsworth and Annetje Jans is
dated June 1, 1647 in Amsterdam. In it he is described as "Theophilus
Elswaert" of Bristol, mariner, 22 years old, having no parents living.
His bride is 24 and is native of Amsterdam. In the 1650s Theophilus
and Annetje emigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (later New York City) where
they produced a large family, their daughter Christina (Styntje) being
one of my ancestresses. Their children were Bridget (Brechie), Judith
(Judike), Elizabeth (Lysbeth), Christina (Styntje), Clement, George
(Joris), John (Johannes), and William (Willem). Their father's name is
listed several different ways in the Dutch records of the time; he's
called "Theovenius Esdras" in his daughter Judike's baptism record.
A will of "Theophilus Ellsworth", shoemaker, is dated January 12 1706,
and in 1712 administration of his estate is granted to his son
Clement, a shipwright. Are there baptismal records extant for Bristol
wherein I might find Theophilus?
Phillimore's Atlas & Index to Parish Registers lists new fewer than 21
Bristol churches with surviving registers. Of therese, only 12 extend
back to the beginning of the 17th century (which means either they
were not founded until after then, or their earlier registers are no
longer extant); several of these go back to the 1530s, which is as
good as any parish register in England. However, details of only
three have been extracted onto the IGI (sub Gloucestershire, on the
fiche version, I presume). There are some copies at the Society of
Genealogists' Library in London, but none goes further back than
1669. Most (but not all) of the early registers have been deposited
with the Bristol Records Office.
Adding to your difficulty, given the nature of Bristol as a magnet for
young men seeking work, particular mariners, there is every chance
that your Theophilus merely came from Bristol (ie he was settled there
before coming to America) but was not born there. You might have more
luck getting relevant advice on the British Genealogy group, as the
time-frame here is slightly out of this group's focus.
Best of luck, Michael- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Hi Michael,
Thanks! I will look into those sources. I wasn't purposefully trying
to be off-topic, I've seen posts before concerning early American
emigrants and thought that was acceptable.
Not a problem - you could be forgiven for thinking all kinds of weird
stuff was on-topic here at the moment! Following Chris's useful
additions, it seems Bristol Record Office is your best bet. You might
also like to try some of the Gloucestershire wills, which have printed
indexes (British Record Society series, I think), in case this gives
you any pointers about where the surname was in use at the time.
Cheers, Michael