Wetherall Priory Cumberland

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paul bulkley

Wetherall Priory Cumberland

Legg inn av paul bulkley » 27 mar 2007 00:36:02

Dear Peter Stewart

Reference to your response to my recent question that
applied to the thought/opinion of the scribe's
"Cronicum Cumbriae" in which he describes events
pertinent to Ranulph, Galfrid, and William Meschines
(brothers)

Your claim that "Cronicum Cumbriae" is not evidence is
irrelevant. And your remark "if you can read at all"
is ill mannered impertinance as you should well know.
It reflects poorly of your thought process.

I recollect some years past you pompously declared
that you would research and reveal the Patric
(Cheshire) Pedigree. Now that pedigree would have been
of some curiousity because you had already claimed
that William Patric was obviously the son of Richard
and Letitia de Malpas, and when questioned of that
remarkable claim, you declared that it was obvious
(based on inference only!)

Well. Well. We have further shades of Stewart's
definition of "evidence".

Why don't you go for a long long "walkabout". If you
return please produce your Patric Pedigree so that we
can all have a good laugh.

Paul Bulkley



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Peter Stewart

Re: Wetherall Priory Cumberland

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 27 mar 2007 03:51:30

The lack of sincerity in Bulkeley's approach to this subject is obvious in
his persistence in the error, already pointed out to him, of substituting
"chronicum" for chronicon.

The document itself is a late compilatoin and not valuable as evidence for
the earlier generations that the post was asking about.

I did not, of course, write "if you can read at all" as Bulkeley
deliberately misrepresents, but rather "if you can read this at all",
meaning the text in Latin that he clearly does not know well enough to read.

As discussed here before, I never claimed that "William Patric was obviously
the son of Richard and Letitia de Malpas". This distortion, having been
corrected here several times now, is an outright lie on Bulkeley's part.

Peter Stewart


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Dear Peter Stewart

Reference to your response to my recent question that
applied to the thought/opinion of the scribe's
"Cronicum Cumbriae" in which he describes events
pertinent to Ranulph, Galfrid, and William Meschines
(brothers)

Your claim that "Cronicum Cumbriae" is not evidence is
irrelevant. And your remark "if you can read at all"
is ill mannered impertinance as you should well know.
It reflects poorly of your thought process.

I recollect some years past you pompously declared
that you would research and reveal the Patric
(Cheshire) Pedigree. Now that pedigree would have been
of some curiousity because you had already claimed
that William Patric was obviously the son of Richard
and Letitia de Malpas, and when questioned of that
remarkable claim, you declared that it was obvious
(based on inference only!)

Well. Well. We have further shades of Stewart's
definition of "evidence".

Why don't you go for a long long "walkabout". If you
return please produce your Patric Pedigree so that we
can all have a good laugh.

Paul Bulkley



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Alex Maxwell Findlater

Re: Wetherall Priory Cumberland

Legg inn av Alex Maxwell Findlater » 30 mar 2007 08:03:21

I recently spent an afternoon in Carlisle Library reading up the
Register of Weatherhal. It is a scholarly work of the very late C19.
The notes on the Charters (all in Latin of course and not translated)
are helpful and informative.

I also looked at Lanercost, St Bees and Holm Cultram. Between the
four they give a very good picture of Cumbria as it then was. They
are all well worth studying for a history of the families of Cumbria.

Two of them, I forget which, differ as to the origin of William de
Lancaster: is this matter now positively decided, or still in doubt?

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