Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

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Tim Cartmell

Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

Legg inn av Tim Cartmell » 26 mar 2007 01:16:01

Dear Matthew and Pat,

Thank you for your responses, that was a great deal of help.

Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?

Thanks,

Timothy J. Cartmell

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Matthew Connolly

Re: Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

Legg inn av Matthew Connolly » 26 mar 2007 08:30:19

Tim Cartmell wrote:

[snip]

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?


I think that this is supported by The Complete Peerage, sub Musgrave
of Hartley; but don't have a note of their source for it. I suspect
you may have already looked there anyway!

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