Keith's of Inverugie
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grothenwell
Keith's of Inverugie
I have the following Keith lineage from Donald M Mcintosh 1998 "Keith
of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon & Ravenscraig". Can anyone corroberate
or find fault with the following?
1. Sir William Keith 5th of Inverugie d.1521
m Janet Dunbar, daughter of Sir Alexander Dunbar
2. Sir Gilbert Keith, 4th of Inverugie, d.1494.
m. Janet Graham, daughter of Lord Patrick Graham.
4. Sir William Keith 3rd of Inverugie. d.1455
m. Janet ______?
8. Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie. dc 1450
m. Janet _______?
16. Sir John de Keth, 1st of Inverugie, dc 1400
m Marion le Chien, daughter of Ronald & Helen of Strathearn
32. Sir Edward de Keth of Sintoun, d Durham 1346
m 1 ?_____ le Chien, daughter of Francis & Isabel de Cuming
m 2 Christian Mentieth
64. Sir Edward de Keth, dc 1340s
m Isabel de Syntoun
Thank you,
Grothenwell
of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon & Ravenscraig". Can anyone corroberate
or find fault with the following?
1. Sir William Keith 5th of Inverugie d.1521
m Janet Dunbar, daughter of Sir Alexander Dunbar
2. Sir Gilbert Keith, 4th of Inverugie, d.1494.
m. Janet Graham, daughter of Lord Patrick Graham.
4. Sir William Keith 3rd of Inverugie. d.1455
m. Janet ______?
8. Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie. dc 1450
m. Janet _______?
16. Sir John de Keth, 1st of Inverugie, dc 1400
m Marion le Chien, daughter of Ronald & Helen of Strathearn
32. Sir Edward de Keth of Sintoun, d Durham 1346
m 1 ?_____ le Chien, daughter of Francis & Isabel de Cuming
m 2 Christian Mentieth
64. Sir Edward de Keth, dc 1340s
m Isabel de Syntoun
Thank you,
Grothenwell
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Leo van de Pas
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
Sadly, for me, I have only nr,1 in my system. But this made me also aware
there are three spellings for Inverugie - Inverurie - Innerugie, which is
the correct one?
Below only one remark
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Subject: Keith's of Inverugie
son of a Duke, Patrick Lord Graham would be the correct (I think) name for
him. Is he Patrick, 1st Baron Graham, who died in 1466 and was married to
Christian Erskine?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
there are three spellings for Inverugie - Inverurie - Innerugie, which is
the correct one?
Below only one remark
----- Original Message -----
From: "grothenwell" <jbrechin@gmail.com>
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To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:14 AM
Subject: Keith's of Inverugie
I have the following Keith lineage from Donald M Mcintosh 1998 "Keith
of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon & Ravenscraig". Can anyone corroberate
or find fault with the following?
1. Sir William Keith 5th of Inverugie d.1521
m Janet Dunbar, daughter of Sir Alexander Dunbar
2. Sir Gilbert Keith, 4th of Inverugie, d.1494.
m. Janet Graham, daughter of Lord Patrick Graham.
------------------A pity that we see "Lord Patrick Graham" as he was not a
son of a Duke, Patrick Lord Graham would be the correct (I think) name for
him. Is he Patrick, 1st Baron Graham, who died in 1466 and was married to
Christian Erskine?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
4. Sir William Keith 3rd of Inverugie. d.1455
m. Janet ______?
8. Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie. dc 1450
m. Janet _______?
16. Sir John de Keth, 1st of Inverugie, dc 1400
m Marion le Chien, daughter of Ronald & Helen of Strathearn
32. Sir Edward de Keth of Sintoun, d Durham 1346
m 1 ?_____ le Chien, daughter of Francis & Isabel de Cuming
m 2 Christian Mentieth
64. Sir Edward de Keth, dc 1340s
m Isabel de Syntoun
Thank you,
Grothenwell
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James Dempster
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:10:25 +1000, "Leo van de Pas"
<leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
Inverugie and Inverurie are two different places, about 50 miles apart
and (confusingly for those who don't know the local geography) both
associated with the Keiths.
Inverurie (N57:17:01 W2:22:29) is a former Royal Burgh and the
"capital" of the Garioch area of NE Scotland. Keith Hall (the seat of
the Keith Earls of Kintore) is nearby. Keith Hall was originally
Caskieben, the seat of the NE branch of the Johnstons and became a
Keith property in 1660.
Inverurie was often spelled Inverury in the past and the change is
said to have come about with the coming of either the railway or the
penny post due to confusion between Inverary and Inverury.
Inverugie (N57:31:36 W1:49:35) is a small village just to the west of
Peterhead. Ravenscraig Castle is less than a mile further west.
There is also an Inverugie in Moray but it is simply a single house
and as far as I know is a modern name with no Keith connections.
I would assume Innerugie and Inverugie were synonymous. The Chambers
Concise Scots Dictionary notes both forms.
Inver is the more modern spelling of the component which means the
confluence of rivers or mouth of a river. Thus Inverurie is the town
where the River Urie (originally Ury) meets the Don and Inverugie was
where the Ugie met the sea. It's a couple of miles inland these days.
James
James Dempster
You know you've had a good night
when you wake up
and someone's outlining you in chalk.
<leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
Sadly, for me, I have only nr,1 in my system. But this made me also aware
there are three spellings for Inverugie - Inverurie - Innerugie, which is
the correct one?
Inverugie and Inverurie are two different places, about 50 miles apart
and (confusingly for those who don't know the local geography) both
associated with the Keiths.
Inverurie (N57:17:01 W2:22:29) is a former Royal Burgh and the
"capital" of the Garioch area of NE Scotland. Keith Hall (the seat of
the Keith Earls of Kintore) is nearby. Keith Hall was originally
Caskieben, the seat of the NE branch of the Johnstons and became a
Keith property in 1660.
Inverurie was often spelled Inverury in the past and the change is
said to have come about with the coming of either the railway or the
penny post due to confusion between Inverary and Inverury.
Inverugie (N57:31:36 W1:49:35) is a small village just to the west of
Peterhead. Ravenscraig Castle is less than a mile further west.
There is also an Inverugie in Moray but it is simply a single house
and as far as I know is a modern name with no Keith connections.
I would assume Innerugie and Inverugie were synonymous. The Chambers
Concise Scots Dictionary notes both forms.
Inver is the more modern spelling of the component which means the
confluence of rivers or mouth of a river. Thus Inverurie is the town
where the River Urie (originally Ury) meets the Don and Inverugie was
where the Ugie met the sea. It's a couple of miles inland these days.
James
James Dempster
You know you've had a good night
when you wake up
and someone's outlining you in chalk.
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Leo van de Pas
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
Talking about a mess....too much Johnny Walker? 
Leo
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Leo
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Keith's of Inverugie
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:10:25 +1000, "Leo van de Pas"
leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
Sadly, for me, I have only nr,1 in my system. But this made me also aware
there are three spellings for Inverugie - Inverurie - Innerugie, which is
the correct one?
Inverugie and Inverurie are two different places, about 50 miles apart
and (confusingly for those who don't know the local geography) both
associated with the Keiths.
Inverurie (N57:17:01 W2:22:29) is a former Royal Burgh and the
"capital" of the Garioch area of NE Scotland. Keith Hall (the seat of
the Keith Earls of Kintore) is nearby. Keith Hall was originally
Caskieben, the seat of the NE branch of the Johnstons and became a
Keith property in 1660.
Inverurie was often spelled Inverury in the past and the change is
said to have come about with the coming of either the railway or the
penny post due to confusion between Inverary and Inverury.
Inverugie (N57:31:36 W1:49:35) is a small village just to the west of
Peterhead. Ravenscraig Castle is less than a mile further west.
There is also an Inverugie in Moray but it is simply a single house
and as far as I know is a modern name with no Keith connections.
I would assume Innerugie and Inverugie were synonymous. The Chambers
Concise Scots Dictionary notes both forms.
Inver is the more modern spelling of the component which means the
confluence of rivers or mouth of a river. Thus Inverurie is the town
where the River Urie (originally Ury) meets the Don and Inverugie was
where the Ugie met the sea. It's a couple of miles inland these days.
James
James Dempster
You know you've had a good night
when you wake up
and someone's outlining you in chalk.
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
In message of 24 Mar, "grothenwell" <jbrechin@gmail.com> wrote:
No 64 looks like the Edward de Keith who was Marischal of Scotland in
succession to his elder brother Robert who d. 17 Oct 1346 at the battle
of Durham - Scots peerage, vol 6, p. 33.
Edward, who d. bef 1351, m. (1) Isabella Sinton and (2) Christian
Menteith (SP ditto). But SP only gives him William, John and Catherine
as children of the first marriage and Janet as the only child of the
second. There are no corrections to this in Vol 8 of SP.
However SP, vol 6 p. 33 still, does give an Edmund de Keith who died
with his brother Edward and his grandfather Robert, Mareschal, above,
all at Durham in 1346.
So I don't know what evidence there is that 64 above is the father of
32. I can see a similar confusion in the wives between 16 and 32.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
I have the following Keith lineage from Donald M Mcintosh 1998 "Keith
of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon & Ravenscraig". Can anyone corroberate
or find fault with the following?
1. Sir William Keith 5th of Inverugie d.1521
m Janet Dunbar, daughter of Sir Alexander Dunbar
2. Sir Gilbert Keith, 4th of Inverugie, d.1494.
m. Janet Graham, daughter of Lord Patrick Graham.
4. Sir William Keith 3rd of Inverugie. d.1455
m. Janet ______?
8. Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie. dc 1450
m. Janet _______?
16. Sir John de Keth, 1st of Inverugie, dc 1400
m Marion le Chien, daughter of Ronald & Helen of Strathearn
32. Sir Edward de Keth of Sintoun, d Durham 1346
m 1 ?_____ le Chien, daughter of Francis & Isabel de Cuming
m 2 Christian Mentieth
64. Sir Edward de Keth, dc 1340s
m Isabel de Syntoun
No 64 looks like the Edward de Keith who was Marischal of Scotland in
succession to his elder brother Robert who d. 17 Oct 1346 at the battle
of Durham - Scots peerage, vol 6, p. 33.
Edward, who d. bef 1351, m. (1) Isabella Sinton and (2) Christian
Menteith (SP ditto). But SP only gives him William, John and Catherine
as children of the first marriage and Janet as the only child of the
second. There are no corrections to this in Vol 8 of SP.
However SP, vol 6 p. 33 still, does give an Edmund de Keith who died
with his brother Edward and his grandfather Robert, Mareschal, above,
all at Durham in 1346.
So I don't know what evidence there is that 64 above is the father of
32. I can see a similar confusion in the wives between 16 and 32.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Alex Maxwell Findlater
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
The following is a descent for the Keiths of Inverugie. It has not
been vouched, but the information comes from various sources which are
respectable. I have found it difficult to discover a study of this
family in its own right. Inverugie was the original holding of the
Cheynes, who later acquired Duffus by a marriage to a Murray heiress.
1st Sir William Keith, Marischal
2nd Sir Robert, Marischal d 1343
Sir Edward, of Synton d 1346 or 1356, m bef July 1305
Isabel d Alexr de Synton
3rd Sir William, Marischal d bef 1346 or bef 1352, from whom the Earls
Marischal
Sir Edward of Synton d 1346 had John by an unknown
first wife, by Christian d Sir John de Menteith of Rusky had Christian
who m Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk and dsp 1389 (see Mar peerage
descent)
1st John of Inverugie (by marriage) m ca 1367 Mariot ed&h Sir
Reginald le Cheyne
2nd Andrew m ca 1390 Janet (deed of resignation 3 Mar 1390/91
3rd Sir Gilbert d bef 1500 m Janet Grahame, m 2 Elizabeth Hay d Earl
of Erroll ca 1486 a dau Elizabeth m Sir Wm Fraser of Philorth
4th Sir William d bef 1538 m Janet d Sir Alexr Dunbar of Westfield
5th Sir William dvp
6th Margaret m William 3rd Earl Marischal
Elizabeth m William 7th Lord Forbes
been vouched, but the information comes from various sources which are
respectable. I have found it difficult to discover a study of this
family in its own right. Inverugie was the original holding of the
Cheynes, who later acquired Duffus by a marriage to a Murray heiress.
1st Sir William Keith, Marischal
2nd Sir Robert, Marischal d 1343
Sir Edward, of Synton d 1346 or 1356, m bef July 1305
Isabel d Alexr de Synton
3rd Sir William, Marischal d bef 1346 or bef 1352, from whom the Earls
Marischal
Sir Edward of Synton d 1346 had John by an unknown
first wife, by Christian d Sir John de Menteith of Rusky had Christian
who m Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk and dsp 1389 (see Mar peerage
descent)
1st John of Inverugie (by marriage) m ca 1367 Mariot ed&h Sir
Reginald le Cheyne
2nd Andrew m ca 1390 Janet (deed of resignation 3 Mar 1390/91
3rd Sir Gilbert d bef 1500 m Janet Grahame, m 2 Elizabeth Hay d Earl
of Erroll ca 1486 a dau Elizabeth m Sir Wm Fraser of Philorth
4th Sir William d bef 1538 m Janet d Sir Alexr Dunbar of Westfield
5th Sir William dvp
6th Margaret m William 3rd Earl Marischal
Elizabeth m William 7th Lord Forbes
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Alex Maxwell Findlater
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
I think that there must be a generation missing in what I posted
above. SP calls Sir William the grandfather of the two heiresses g-g-
gs of John Keith and Mariota le Cheyne.
They were married ca 1369 (disposition of 12 Mar 1368/9), so Andrew
must have been born ca 1370. His son must have been born about
1390x1400, but Gilbert, known to be the father of Sir William from a
charter must have been born about 1420, for his son Sir William is
shown to be married by 1476 (charter of 31 Mar 1476).
Grothenwell calls him William, but I haven't noted him mentioned
anywhere. William would certainly be an appropriate name, given its
both early and continued use in the family, and it would make the
grandson Sir William named after him, which would again be consistent
with naming practice. As SP does not mention the intervening
generations, usually doing so, I take it that the author did not know
the precise descent.
If you have any evidence to hand, I would be very grateful for it to
update and correct my notes.
above. SP calls Sir William the grandfather of the two heiresses g-g-
gs of John Keith and Mariota le Cheyne.
They were married ca 1369 (disposition of 12 Mar 1368/9), so Andrew
must have been born ca 1370. His son must have been born about
1390x1400, but Gilbert, known to be the father of Sir William from a
charter must have been born about 1420, for his son Sir William is
shown to be married by 1476 (charter of 31 Mar 1476).
Grothenwell calls him William, but I haven't noted him mentioned
anywhere. William would certainly be an appropriate name, given its
both early and continued use in the family, and it would make the
grandson Sir William named after him, which would again be consistent
with naming practice. As SP does not mention the intervening
generations, usually doing so, I take it that the author did not know
the precise descent.
If you have any evidence to hand, I would be very grateful for it to
update and correct my notes.
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grothenwell
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
On Mar 29, 1:23�pm, "Alex Maxwell Findlater"
<maxwellfindla...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Sorry for the delay in replying. I will try and send you an email with
what I have from Donald Mackintosh's work on the Keith family.
Unfortunately I have learned that Donald has passed away. A great pity
as from his work I have read on the Irvine & Keith familes he was a
great genealogist.
Best wishes,
Grothenwell
<maxwellfindla...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think that there must be a generation missing in what I posted
above. SP calls Sir William the grandfather of the two heiresses g-g-
gs of John Keith and Mariota le Cheyne.
They were married ca 1369 (disposition of 12 Mar 1368/9), so Andrew
must have been born ca 1370. His son must have been born about
1390x1400, but Gilbert, known to be the father of Sir William from a
charter must have been born about 1420, for his son Sir William is
shown to be married by 1476 (charter of 31 Mar 1476).
Grothenwell calls him William, but I haven't noted him mentioned
anywhere. William would certainly be an appropriate name, given its
both early and continued use in the family, and it would make the
grandson Sir William named after him, which would again be consistent
with naming practice. As SP does not mention the intervening
generations, usually doing so, I take it that the author did not know
the precise descent.
If you have any evidence to hand, I would be very grateful for it to
update and correct my notes.
Hi Alex,
Sorry for the delay in replying. I will try and send you an email with
what I have from Donald Mackintosh's work on the Keith family.
Unfortunately I have learned that Donald has passed away. A great pity
as from his work I have read on the Irvine & Keith familes he was a
great genealogist.
Best wishes,
Grothenwell
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Alex Maxwell Findlater
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
Many thanks. Perhaps you would be kind enough to give a link to the
Keith and Irvine work as well, as I don't know of Donald Mackintosh.
Thank you very much indeed.
Alex
Keith and Irvine work as well, as I don't know of Donald Mackintosh.
Thank you very much indeed.
Alex
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Leo van de Pas
Re: Keith's of Inverugie
Two apologies, first for waiting so long to reply and secondly, I am not
sure whether anyone else has replied to this.
I have merged the information from "Grothenwell" with what I have and here
it is, corrections and additions greatly appreciated..
1.=Sir William de Keith, died before 1293
married Barbara de Seton, their son nr.2
2.=Sir Edward Keith of Syntoun, died before 1350
married (1) Isabella Syntoun
married (2) Christian Menteith, dau of Sir John Menteith and Ellen of Mar
children 1st marriage 1.William see nr.3,
not sure which marriage 2.John, see nr 4
2nd marriage
3.Janet Keith, married (1) Sir David Barclay, died before 8 September 1368,
son of Sir David Barclay and Margaret de Brechin
married (2) before 13 April 1370 Sir Thomas Erskine, of That Ilk, died 11
November 1403/18 May 1404, son of Sir Robert Erskine, High Chamberlain of
Scotland, and Beatrix Lindsay
4.Katherine Keith, married Alexander de Berkeley, 1st Laird of Mathers, son
of Andrew de Berkeley, 9th of Gartley
3=.Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland, died 13 May 1407/2 June 1413
married Margaret Fraser, dau of Sir John Fraser, of Arbothnot
children
1.Elizabeth Keith, Lady of Aboyne, married (1) Sir Adam Gordon, of That Ilk,
killed in battle 1402 Homildon, son of Sir John Gordon of Strathbogie and
Elizabeth; married (2) Sir Nicholas Erskine (3) Thomas Somverville
2. Sir Robert de Keith, see nr.5
3.Muriella Keith, died before 1 June 1449
married (1) Reginald le Cheyne, son of Sir Reginald le Cheyne and Helen of
Strathearn
married (2) contr 4 May 1380, Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany, born
ca.1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling, son of Robert II, king of Scots,
and Elizabeth Mure
4.=John Keith, 1st of Inverugie, died 1400, married Mariota le Cheyne,
daughter of Sir Reginald le Cheyne and Helen of Strathearn
son: Sir Andrew Keith, see nr 6
5.=Sir Robert de Keith, died before 20 July 1430, married Janet Seton, of
Seton, daughter of Sir John Seton of Seton
children :
1.Janet Keith, died before 1483, married Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray, died
February 1514, son of Patrick Gray, Master of Gray, and Annabella Forbes
2.Sir William de Keith, see nr. 7
6.=Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie, married Janet
son : Sir William Keith, see nr.8
7.=Sir William de Keith, Marshal of Scotland, died (?) October 1444, married
Mary Hamilton, daughter of Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow, and Janet
Livingston
son : Sir William Keith, see nr.9
8.=Sir William Keith, 3rd of Inverugie, died 1455, married Janet
son : Sir Gilbert de Keith, see nr. 10
9.=Sir William de Keith, 1st Earl Marischal, 11th.Great Marshal of Scotland,
died 1483, married Mariot Erskine, daughter of Thomas Erskine, 2nd Lord
Erskine and Janet Douglas
children :
1.Lady Egidia (Gille) Keith, died after 14 August 1473, married James
Forbes, 2nd Lord Forbes, died before 30 July 1462, son of Sir Alexander
Forbes, 1st Lord Forbes, and Lady Elizabeth Douglas
2.Lady Mary Keith, married Sir William Murray of Tullibardine, bornb 1444,
died 10 February 1525, son of Sir William Murray of Tullibardine, and
Margaret Gray .
3.Sir William Keith, see nr.11
10.= Sir Gilbert de Keith, 4th of Inverugie, died 1494, married Janet
Graham, dau of Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham, and Christian Erskine
children:
1.Sir William Keith, see nr.12
2.Elizabeth Keith, married 1494 Sir William Fraser, 6th of Philorth, born
1473, died before 13 November 1513 (Paris ?), son of Alexander Fraser, 4th
of Philorth, and Margaret Hay
11.=Sir William Keith, 2nd Earl Marischal, died 24 November 1526/2 May 1527,
married contr.11 January 1482 Lady Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of George
Gordon, 2nd Earl of Huntly, and Elizabeth Hay
seven children
12.=Sir William Keith, 5th of Inverugie, died 1521 married Janet Dunbar
son William Keith, see nr.13
13.=William Keith of Inverugie, married Janet Gray, daughter of Andrew Gray,
2nd Lord Gray, and Lady Elizabeth Stewart
children
1.Margaret Keith, of Inverugie, bovn ca.1518, married before 30 June 1538
William Keith, 3rd Earl Marischal, died 7 October 1581, son of Robert Keith,
Master of Marischal (son of nr.11) and Lady Elizabeth Douglas
2.Elizabeth Keith, married 19 December 1538 William Forbes, 7th Lord Forbes,
died 1593, son of John Forbes, 6th Lord Forbes, and Christian Lundin
Sources
Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
Burke's Peerager
Burke's Landed Gentry
The Complete Peerage
The Lineage and Ancestry of Prince Charles, by Gerald Paget, Edinburgh, 1977
Cahiers de Saint Louis
The Great Historic Families of Scotland, by James Taylor, London 1889
Keith of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon and Ravenscraig, by Donald M.
Mcintosh, 1998
nr.11 William Keith, 2nd Earl Marischal is an ancestor of
Gateway ancestors : Robert Baillie, Robert Barclay 'the Apologist', Isabel
Burnett, Alexander Campbell, Patrick CampbellJames Cuthbert, James Dundas,
Thomas Dundas, Abraham Falconer, Alexander Falconer, Peter Penn Gaskell,
(*)Thomas Gordon Chief Justice of New Jersey, David Haldane, Isabella
MacDonald, (*) Samuel Mackay, Charles Oliphant, Laurence Oliphant, Rev.
Robert Rose, Arthur Saint Clair, Lady Christina Stewart, James Stirling,
Lewis Stirling, Robert Stirling
----and also of (*) Albert II, Prince of Monaco, (*) Wernher von Braun, (*)
Howard Brush Dean III, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, (*) Lady Diana
Spencer, (*) Camilla Duchess of Cornwall, (*) Sarah Ferguson
(*) these also descend from nr.13 William Keith, of Inverugie
----- Original Message -----
From: "grothenwell" <jbrechin@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:14 AM
Subject: Keith's of Inverugie
sure whether anyone else has replied to this.
I have merged the information from "Grothenwell" with what I have and here
it is, corrections and additions greatly appreciated..
1.=Sir William de Keith, died before 1293
married Barbara de Seton, their son nr.2
2.=Sir Edward Keith of Syntoun, died before 1350
married (1) Isabella Syntoun
married (2) Christian Menteith, dau of Sir John Menteith and Ellen of Mar
children 1st marriage 1.William see nr.3,
not sure which marriage 2.John, see nr 4
2nd marriage
3.Janet Keith, married (1) Sir David Barclay, died before 8 September 1368,
son of Sir David Barclay and Margaret de Brechin
married (2) before 13 April 1370 Sir Thomas Erskine, of That Ilk, died 11
November 1403/18 May 1404, son of Sir Robert Erskine, High Chamberlain of
Scotland, and Beatrix Lindsay
4.Katherine Keith, married Alexander de Berkeley, 1st Laird of Mathers, son
of Andrew de Berkeley, 9th of Gartley
3=.Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland, died 13 May 1407/2 June 1413
married Margaret Fraser, dau of Sir John Fraser, of Arbothnot
children
1.Elizabeth Keith, Lady of Aboyne, married (1) Sir Adam Gordon, of That Ilk,
killed in battle 1402 Homildon, son of Sir John Gordon of Strathbogie and
Elizabeth; married (2) Sir Nicholas Erskine (3) Thomas Somverville
2. Sir Robert de Keith, see nr.5
3.Muriella Keith, died before 1 June 1449
married (1) Reginald le Cheyne, son of Sir Reginald le Cheyne and Helen of
Strathearn
married (2) contr 4 May 1380, Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany, born
ca.1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling, son of Robert II, king of Scots,
and Elizabeth Mure
4.=John Keith, 1st of Inverugie, died 1400, married Mariota le Cheyne,
daughter of Sir Reginald le Cheyne and Helen of Strathearn
son: Sir Andrew Keith, see nr 6
5.=Sir Robert de Keith, died before 20 July 1430, married Janet Seton, of
Seton, daughter of Sir John Seton of Seton
children :
1.Janet Keith, died before 1483, married Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray, died
February 1514, son of Patrick Gray, Master of Gray, and Annabella Forbes
2.Sir William de Keith, see nr. 7
6.=Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie, married Janet
son : Sir William Keith, see nr.8
7.=Sir William de Keith, Marshal of Scotland, died (?) October 1444, married
Mary Hamilton, daughter of Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow, and Janet
Livingston
son : Sir William Keith, see nr.9
8.=Sir William Keith, 3rd of Inverugie, died 1455, married Janet
son : Sir Gilbert de Keith, see nr. 10
9.=Sir William de Keith, 1st Earl Marischal, 11th.Great Marshal of Scotland,
died 1483, married Mariot Erskine, daughter of Thomas Erskine, 2nd Lord
Erskine and Janet Douglas
children :
1.Lady Egidia (Gille) Keith, died after 14 August 1473, married James
Forbes, 2nd Lord Forbes, died before 30 July 1462, son of Sir Alexander
Forbes, 1st Lord Forbes, and Lady Elizabeth Douglas
2.Lady Mary Keith, married Sir William Murray of Tullibardine, bornb 1444,
died 10 February 1525, son of Sir William Murray of Tullibardine, and
Margaret Gray .
3.Sir William Keith, see nr.11
10.= Sir Gilbert de Keith, 4th of Inverugie, died 1494, married Janet
Graham, dau of Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham, and Christian Erskine
children:
1.Sir William Keith, see nr.12
2.Elizabeth Keith, married 1494 Sir William Fraser, 6th of Philorth, born
1473, died before 13 November 1513 (Paris ?), son of Alexander Fraser, 4th
of Philorth, and Margaret Hay
11.=Sir William Keith, 2nd Earl Marischal, died 24 November 1526/2 May 1527,
married contr.11 January 1482 Lady Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of George
Gordon, 2nd Earl of Huntly, and Elizabeth Hay
seven children
12.=Sir William Keith, 5th of Inverugie, died 1521 married Janet Dunbar
son William Keith, see nr.13
13.=William Keith of Inverugie, married Janet Gray, daughter of Andrew Gray,
2nd Lord Gray, and Lady Elizabeth Stewart
children
1.Margaret Keith, of Inverugie, bovn ca.1518, married before 30 June 1538
William Keith, 3rd Earl Marischal, died 7 October 1581, son of Robert Keith,
Master of Marischal (son of nr.11) and Lady Elizabeth Douglas
2.Elizabeth Keith, married 19 December 1538 William Forbes, 7th Lord Forbes,
died 1593, son of John Forbes, 6th Lord Forbes, and Christian Lundin
Sources
Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
Burke's Peerager
Burke's Landed Gentry
The Complete Peerage
The Lineage and Ancestry of Prince Charles, by Gerald Paget, Edinburgh, 1977
Cahiers de Saint Louis
The Great Historic Families of Scotland, by James Taylor, London 1889
Keith of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon and Ravenscraig, by Donald M.
Mcintosh, 1998
nr.11 William Keith, 2nd Earl Marischal is an ancestor of
Gateway ancestors : Robert Baillie, Robert Barclay 'the Apologist', Isabel
Burnett, Alexander Campbell, Patrick CampbellJames Cuthbert, James Dundas,
Thomas Dundas, Abraham Falconer, Alexander Falconer, Peter Penn Gaskell,
(*)Thomas Gordon Chief Justice of New Jersey, David Haldane, Isabella
MacDonald, (*) Samuel Mackay, Charles Oliphant, Laurence Oliphant, Rev.
Robert Rose, Arthur Saint Clair, Lady Christina Stewart, James Stirling,
Lewis Stirling, Robert Stirling
----and also of (*) Albert II, Prince of Monaco, (*) Wernher von Braun, (*)
Howard Brush Dean III, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, (*) Lady Diana
Spencer, (*) Camilla Duchess of Cornwall, (*) Sarah Ferguson
(*) these also descend from nr.13 William Keith, of Inverugie
----- Original Message -----
From: "grothenwell" <jbrechin@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:14 AM
Subject: Keith's of Inverugie
I have the following Keith lineage from Donald M Mcintosh 1998 "Keith
of Sintoun, Inverugie, Ludquhon & Ravenscraig". Can anyone corroberate
or find fault with the following?
1. Sir William Keith 5th of Inverugie d.1521
m Janet Dunbar, daughter of Sir Alexander Dunbar
2. Sir Gilbert Keith, 4th of Inverugie, d.1494.
m. Janet Graham, daughter of Lord Patrick Graham.
4. Sir William Keith 3rd of Inverugie. d.1455
m. Janet ______?
8. Sir Andrew Keith, 2nd of Inverugie. dc 1450
m. Janet _______?
16. Sir John de Keth, 1st of Inverugie, dc 1400
m Marion le Chien, daughter of Ronald & Helen of Strathearn
32. Sir Edward de Keth of Sintoun, d Durham 1346
m 1 ?_____ le Chien, daughter of Francis & Isabel de Cuming
m 2 Christian Mentieth
64. Sir Edward de Keth, dc 1340s
m Isabel de Syntoun
Thank you,
Grothenwell
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