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Wetherall Priory Cumberland

Legg inn av paul bulkley » 24 mar 2007 17:31:01

Wetherall Priory Cumberland Register XVI p584
Monasticum Anglicum V3 "Chronicum Cumbria" provides
considerable evidence of lines, relationships, and
property 1050-1150 of the following:

Meschines, Dunbars, Duncans, Kendals, and Galloways.

Register XVI is quite lengthy, and commences with the
Meschines:

"Rex Willialmus cognomine Bastardus, dux Normanniae,
conquestor Angliae, dedit totam terram de comitatu
Cumbria Ranulpho de Meschines, et Galfrido fratri
ejusdem Ranulphi totum comitatum Cestriae, et
Willielmo fratri eoreundem terram de Copland, inter
Duden et Darwent"

Further on it continues:

"Galfridus de Meschinis comes Cestriae obiit sine
haerede de corpore suo, et Ranulphus de Meschinis fuit
comes Cestriae, et reddidit domino regi totam
comitatum Cumbria tali conditione ut singuli feoffavit
sui tenuissent terra suas de domino rege in capite."

Thus the scribe stipulates that King Willima I gave
all Cumbria to Ranulph Meschines, all Chester to
Galfrid, and all Copland to William. Thereafter
Ranulph succeeded Galfrid of Chester (on Galfrid's
death) and relinquished his interest in Cumbria to the
King.

What is of interest is that there is a asterisk
against the name Galfrid and a notation on p584 saying
"rectius Hugh"

I wonder if these were temporary arrangments whilst
Hugh was elsewhere (Continent?). Has anyone an idea?

Paul Bulkley



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Peter Stewart

Re: Wetherall Priory Cumberland

Legg inn av Peter Stewart » 25 mar 2007 01:37:17

The document is of course correctly titled "Chronicon Cumbriae" - if you can
read this at all, despite your inaccurate stab with "Chronicum Cumbria", try
going on to the end where you will see that it was written much later and
has no value as "evidence" for the generations that you are concerned about.

Peter Stewart


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Wetherall Priory Cumberland Register XVI p584
Monasticum Anglicum V3 "Chronicum Cumbria" provides
considerable evidence of lines, relationships, and
property 1050-1150 of the following:

Meschines, Dunbars, Duncans, Kendals, and Galloways.

Register XVI is quite lengthy, and commences with the
Meschines:

"Rex Willialmus cognomine Bastardus, dux Normanniae,
conquestor Angliae, dedit totam terram de comitatu
Cumbria Ranulpho de Meschines, et Galfrido fratri
ejusdem Ranulphi totum comitatum Cestriae, et
Willielmo fratri eoreundem terram de Copland, inter
Duden et Darwent"

Further on it continues:

"Galfridus de Meschinis comes Cestriae obiit sine
haerede de corpore suo, et Ranulphus de Meschinis fuit
comes Cestriae, et reddidit domino regi totam
comitatum Cumbria tali conditione ut singuli feoffavit
sui tenuissent terra suas de domino rege in capite."

Thus the scribe stipulates that King Willima I gave
all Cumbria to Ranulph Meschines, all Chester to
Galfrid, and all Copland to William. Thereafter
Ranulph succeeded Galfrid of Chester (on Galfrid's
death) and relinquished his interest in Cumbria to the
King.

What is of interest is that there is a asterisk
against the name Galfrid and a notation on p584 saying
"rectius Hugh"

I wonder if these were temporary arrangments whilst
Hugh was elsewhere (Continent?). Has anyone an idea?

Paul Bulkley



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