Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

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Tim Cartmell

Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

Legg inn av Tim Cartmell » 22 mar 2007 20:16:01

Dear SGM Listers,

I am trying to find information on the early origins of the de Harcla family of Hartley in Westmorland, and was hoping that someone may be able to provide further insight.

The following information is what I have found regarding Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley, the father of Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle.

"Michael de Harcla was the Deputy Sheriff of Westmorland in 1276 & 1277; was the Sheriff of Cumberland 1285-1298; was the MP for Westmorland in 1301." Source, CWAAS, 'An Armorial for Westmorland and Lonsdale,' published 1975, pg. 147.

"Was the Governor of Carlise in 1296; was Justice of the Peace in 1300; was appointed a commissioner to perambulate the forests of the counties of Nottingham, Cumberland and Yorkshire, in the reign of Edward I, and in 1307 he petitioned the King for reasonable allowance for the ravages and burnings of the Scots while he was Sheriff; he died in or before 1311, his executors being Henri and Michael de Harcla, his sons, and Patrick de Curwenne, his nephew [Curwen family of Workington]." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, 'Sir Andrew de Harcla', pg. 99. See also, 'History of the Ancient House of Curwen,' by JF Curwen, published 1928, pg. 45.

The aforementioned Patrick de Curwenne, Knt. (of Drigg in Cumberland) is recorded as being nephew to Michael de Harcla, and cousin to his son, Sir Andrew de Harcla; the balance of probabilities suggest that either Michael de Harcla's wife was a Curwen of Workington, or Sir Gilbert (Patrick¢s father) de Culwen's wife was a de Harcla of Hartley. In the book, 'Thomas Denton: Perambulation of Cumberland in 1687-1688', pg. 159, Denton stated that, "Threapland [in Torpenhow Plumland] was at first given by Alane, the 2nd lord of this barony [Allerdale], unto the steward Ketellus; from whose discendant it came to Michaell Hercla, father of Andrew, earle of Carlisle in Edward the 1st's time."

My specific queries to anyone who may have knowledge regarding the de Harcla family,

1). Who was the father of Michael de Harcla?

2). Who was the wife of Sir Michael de Harcla?

3). Who was the steward Ketellus, was he Ketel fitzEldred of Kendal & Workington? What was Ketel the steward of......Allerdale, or Kendal, or ???

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Timothy J.. Cartmell

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Matthew Connolly

Re: Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland

Legg inn av Matthew Connolly » 22 mar 2007 23:35:12

On Mar 22, 8:10 pm, Tim Cartmell wrote:

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2). Who was the wife of Sir Michael de Harcla?


According to the ODNB entry for Andrew:

"Harclay [Harcla], Andrew, earl of Carlisle (c.1270-1323), soldier,
was probably the eldest son of Sir Michael Harclay (d. before 1309), a
tenant and servant of the Cliffords who later entered the service of
the crown, acting as sheriff of Cumberland (1285-98), and of Joan,
daughter of William Fitzjohn, a Yorkshire landowner, and brother of
the theologian Henry Harclay. The family name derived from Hartley in
Westmorland. "

And for Henry, although less informative:

"Harclay [Herkeley], Henry (c.1270-1317), theologian, was the son of
Sir Michael Harclay, a long-serving sheriff of Cumberland, who died
before 1309, and brother of Andrew Harclay, first earl of Carlisle (d.
1323). The family name was derived from Hartley in Westmorland."

I'd also be interested to know more about the William Fitzjohn of
Yorkshire they mention.

-Matthew

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