IPM for Richard Hudleston of Whittington, Lancs, 1416

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IPM for Richard Hudleston of Whittington, Lancs, 1416

Legg inn av Gjest » 19 mar 2007 20:10:21

Christopher Townley's Abstracts of Lancashire Inquisitions Post Mortem
(Chetham Soc Pub XCV) contains the Latin text of the IPM for Richard
Hudleston of Whittington. This translates and summarises as follows:

"24 March 1416: Richard de Hudleston died seized of the manor of
Westhall with the advowson of the church at Whittington
["Quetington"], which he held by military service of Richard de
Hudleston of Millum, knight, who held of the King of his Duchy of
Lancaster. The said Richard de Hudleston died Monday next after the
feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 3 Henry 5 [1415];
Ralph de Hudleston is his son and heir, aged 26 and more."

The editorial text glosses the death date as 9 September.

It is this IPM which is presumably the source of much of VCH Lancs's
statements about these two generations of the Westhall Hudlestons.

MA-R

wjhonson

Re: IPM for Richard Hudleston of Whittington, Lancs, 1416

Legg inn av wjhonson » 21 mar 2007 22:43:50

On Mar 19, 11:10 am, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
Christopher Townley's Abstracts of Lancashire Inquisitions Post Mortem
(Chetham Soc Pub XCV) contains the Latin text of the IPM for Richard
Hudleston of Whittington. This translates and summarises as follows:

"24 March 1416: Richard de Hudleston died seized of the manor of
Westhall with the advowson of the church at Whittington
["Quetington"], which he held by military service of Richard de
Hudleston of Millum, knight, who held of the King of his Duchy of
Lancaster. The said Richard de Hudleston died Monday next after the
feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 3 Henry 5 [1415];
Ralph de Hudleston is his son and heir, aged 26 and more."

The editorial text glosses the death date as 9 September.

It is this IPM which is presumably the source of much of VCH Lancs's
statements about these two generations of the Westhall Hudlestons.

MA-R

That's strange, why do I have "Whityngton alias Westhall" ?
It seems like Westhall and Whittington are two distinct placenames.

Also how does Richard Huddleston of Westhall (living in 1552, but born
by 1485) who married Alice Tunstall, connect back to this Ralph
Huddleston heir to his father in 1415 and dead about 1438 ?

Will

Gjest

Re: IPM for Richard Hudleston of Whittington, Lancs, 1416

Legg inn av Gjest » 22 mar 2007 00:45:26

On 21 Mrz., 21:43, "wjhonson" <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
On Mar 19, 11:10 am, m...@btinternet.com wrote:





Christopher Townley's Abstracts of Lancashire Inquisitions Post Mortem
(Chetham Soc Pub XCV) contains the Latin text of the IPM for Richard
Hudleston of Whittington. This translates and summarises as follows:

"24 March 1416: Richard de Hudleston died seized of the manor of
Westhall with the advowson of the church at Whittington
["Quetington"], which he held by military service of Richard de
Hudleston of Millum, knight, who held of the King of his Duchy of
Lancaster. The said Richard de Hudleston died Monday next after the
feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 3 Henry 5 [1415];
Ralph de Hudleston is his son and heir, aged 26 and more."

The editorial text glosses the death date as 9 September.

It is this IPM which is presumably the source of much of VCH Lancs's
statements about these two generations of the Westhall Hudlestons.

MA-R

That's strange, why do I have "Whityngton alias Westhall" ?
It seems like Westhall and Whittington are two distinct placenames.

Westhall was the name of one of the manors in the parish of
Whittington.

Also how does Richard Huddleston of Westhall (living in 1552, but born
by 1485) who married Alice Tunstall, connect back to this Ralph
Huddleston heir to his father in 1415 and dead about 1438 ?


According to Chetham Soc Pub NS 99 and VCH Lancs, the line runs thus:

1. Richard Hudleston, of West Hall, died 1415 (IPM)
2. Ralph Hudleston, c1389-1438; married Katherine
3. Miles Hudleston, ff 1459, then outlawed
4. William Hudleston, of West Hall, ff 1504
5. Richard Hudleston, of West Hall, ff 1513-1553; brother-in-law of
Brian Tunstall (d 1513)

Does the younger Richard have a Cecil number, by any chance?

MA-R

wjhonson

Re: IPM for Richard Hudleston of Whittington, Lancs, 1416

Legg inn av wjhonson » 22 mar 2007 00:57:33

On Mar 21, 3:45 pm, m...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 21 Mrz., 21:43, "wjhonson" <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:





On Mar 19, 11:10 am, m...@btinternet.com wrote:

Christopher Townley's Abstracts of Lancashire Inquisitions Post Mortem
(Chetham Soc Pub XCV) contains the Latin text of the IPM for Richard
Hudleston of Whittington. This translates and summarises as follows:

"24 March 1416: Richard de Hudleston died seized of the manor of
Westhall with the advowson of the church at Whittington
["Quetington"], which he held by military service of Richard de
Hudleston of Millum, knight, who held of the King of his Duchy of
Lancaster. The said Richard de Hudleston died Monday next after the
feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 3 Henry 5 [1415];
Ralph de Hudleston is his son and heir, aged 26 and more."

The editorial text glosses the death date as 9 September.

It is this IPM which is presumably the source of much of VCH Lancs's
statements about these two generations of the Westhall Hudlestons.

MA-R

That's strange, why do I have "Whityngton alias Westhall" ?
It seems like Westhall and Whittington are two distinct placenames.

Westhall was the name of one of the manors in the parish of
Whittington.



Also how does Richard Huddleston of Westhall (living in 1552, but born
by 1485) who married Alice Tunstall, connect back to this Ralph
Huddleston heir to his father in 1415 and dead about 1438 ?

According to Chetham Soc Pub NS 99 and VCH Lancs, the line runs thus:

1. Richard Hudleston, of West Hall, died 1415 (IPM)
2. Ralph Hudleston, c1389-1438; married Katherine
3. Miles Hudleston, ff 1459, then outlawed
4. William Hudleston, of West Hall, ff 1504
5. Richard Hudleston, of West Hall, ff 1513-1553; brother-in-law of
Brian Tunstall (d 1513)

Does the younger Richard have a Cecil number, by any chance?

MA-R- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for the descent. Alice Tunstall has a Cecil number of 10
today. But every day I add between 20 and 100 new people and find new
routes to lower the previous numbers of others in my database.
Alice's route right now goes through the Nevilles to Elizabeth Browne
then to the Somersets and back to the Neville's again, before we land
on the marriage of Dorothy Neville (1548-1608) to Thomas Cecil, 1st
Earl of Exeter.

There is probably a route that is just one step shorter somewhere, and
then Richard himself would be a 10.

Will

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