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Legg inn av Gjest » 12 mar 2007 00:16:03

Gordon Kirkemo has very kindly sent me a copy of an article in the
Genealogist by G. Andrewes Moriarty, FSA, who gives the following account of the
family of de la Bere:-

Roger Berkeley de Dursley (IV) d.c.1191
Daughter Isabel=(1) Thomas de Rocheford and (2) <Michaelmas 1206 William de
Walerond
{I have yet to trace references to Isabel's marriages]
By marriage (1) Isabel had a daughter Alice = (1) Andrew de la Bere and (2)
Alan de Plugenet
She was dead by 29th November 1233, when her son and heir Richard de la Bere
was made a ward of the Bishop of Winchester: CCR 1231-4, 346,557
By marriage (1) Alice had a son and heir Richard de la Bere [as just
mentioned]
Richard's son Robert de la Bere held a knight's fee at Burleton of the Earl
of Hereford, and the vill of Stratford in 1316 (Feud. Aids II, 376,387)
Robert "probably" had a younger brother Richard, who married Cecily
"evidently" the d. of James Bourne (IPM 1328 of John, son of Cecily, sometime wife of
Richard de la Bere).

Robert had a son Richard, who "fraudulently" claimed to be descended from a
younger son of Andrew de la Bere, whose eldest son was allegedly Alan de
Plugenet, ancestor of Joan, last of the Plugenets.

[The claim that Alan de Plugenet was the eldest son of Andrew de la Bere is
evidently nonsense. But nevertheless I am inclined to think that the claim was
not fraudulent. If, as stated, Alice de Rocheford was the mother both of
Richard de le Bere and of Alan Plugenet, then on the death sp (and without
closer heirs) of Joan Plugenet, descendant of Alice de Rocheford and Alan, the
de la Bere heirs of Alan Plugenet's mother Alice de Rocheford would have
been entitled to succeed, as in fact they did]

1346 Richard de la Bere held a knight's fee in Burleton, which Robert de la
Bere once held (Feud Aids II, 391,393)
This Richard married Sibel, daughter of William de Chabbenor of Chadnor Hfs
CPIII,149, This Richard was MP for Hds in 1353,1354, 1357-8, 1360 and 1369.

They had issue John, who apparently died vp.

[At this point I suggest that John married a Kinnersley heiress. If this
was not so, then two matters would remain unexplained|:-
1. Why would John's son be named "Kinnard",and
2. Why would the later de la Beres have owned Kinnersley/Kynardesley
castle?]

John had issue Kinnard, and two daughters:-
Violette=1363 Sir John Chandos of Snodhill and Fownhope, dsp 16th December
1428 and
Sibel=c.1370-72 Thomas de Crophull of Newbold Verdon, Leics, who d. <19th
May 1382.
{This Thomas Crophull, son of Sir John Crophull and his wife Margaret,
coheiress of Theobald, 2nd and last Lord Verdon, was the father of Agnes, wife of
Sir Walter Devereux of Bodenham, slain at the battle of Pilleth, and
ancestress of the later Devereux Earls of Essex, as well as the Mortons of Morton
Corbet, the Leightons of Plash, Salop,and numerous other descendants of the
Corbets).
Kinnard, son of John, succeeded his grandfather Sir Richard, and was MP for
Hds in 1384,1386, 1389, 1390 and 1399, dying before 1412.
His son and heir was Sir Richard, who succeeded before 1412, and died about
1433.
Richard's son Kinnard, MP for Hds 1435= Jane, sister of Sir John de la Barre
of Rotherwas (who d. < Feb. 1473-4)
Kinnard's son Richard, knight 1477-8, Sheriff Hds 1510 and 1512-3, when he
died. Of Kinnersley, Clayhonger and Myndre.
His Will proved 5th Aug 1514. Wife Elizabeth, sons Sevacre and George,
daughters Anne and Sibel.
His son and heir was Thomas (IPM 6 HVIII, 45 and 142)

Well that's all I can manage for now
MM

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Re: de la Bere

Legg inn av alden@mindspring.com » 14 mar 2007 00:10:39

On Mar 11, 7:08 pm, Millerfairfi...@aol.com wrote:
Gordon Kirkemo has very kindly sent me a copy of an article in the
Genealogist by G. Andrewes Moriarty, FSA, who gives the following account of the
family of de la Bere:-


Thank you that was very interesting. The early history of the de la

Bere family is very confusing (to me, at least). David Nash Ford has
some useful information on his web site. It may proves useful to
you. Kinnard (Kynard) was a name that was used in this family at
least five times that I know of. There appear to have been at least
two main branches of the family. Hope this helps.

Doug Smith

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