hello to you all, I found this on the website of Douglas Richardson
(http://www.royalancestry.net/_pdf/pa_01/plantagenet.pdf).
It concerns the children of Henry III. I thought that the sons Richard,
John, WIlliam and Henry were errors. But in this document one can find
actually dates (birth and/or death) for these four children. So what is
correct>? Did these children really exist?
Thanks in advance,
Rashid
Children of Henry III of England, by Eleanor of Provence:
i. EDWARD I OF ENGLAND [see next].
ii. MARGARET (or MARGERY) OF ENGLAND, born 29 Oct. 1240. She married (as his
1st wife) at York, Yorkshire 26 Dec. 1251
ALEXANDER III, King of Scotland, son and heir of Alexander II, King of
Scotland, by his 2nd wife, Mary, daughter of Enguerrand III
de Coucy, seigneur of Coucy. He was born at Roxburgh 4 Sept. 1241. They had
two sons, Alexander and David, and one daughter,
Margaret (wife of Eric Magnusson, King of Norway). His wife, Margaret, died
26 Feb. 1274/5, buried at Dunfermline. King Alexander
III married (2nd) at Jedburgh 14 Oct. 1285 Yolande, Countess of Montfort-l'Amaury,
daughter of Robert IV, Count of Dreux, Braine, and
Montfort-l'Aumary, by Beatrice, daughter and heiress of Jean I, Count of
Montfort-l'Amaury. They had no issue. Alexander III, King of
Scotland, was killed falling over a cliff at Kinghorn 19 March 1285/6, and
was buried at Dunfermline. No living descendants. F.
Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England (1677): 93. T. Rymer Fodera 1
Pt. 2 (1816): 565 (Alexander styled "brother[-in-law]" [fratris] by
King Edward I of England). T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
G. Demay Inventaire des Sceaux de la Flandre 1 (1873): 3 (seal
of Alexander III). Scots Peerage 1 (1904): 6-7 (sub Kings of Scotland).
D.N.B. 1 (1908): 264-267 (biog. of Alexander III). C.P.R. 1266-
1272 (1913): 250, 325, 365, 510 (instance of Margaret, Queen of Scotland,
styled "king's daughter"). D. Schwennicke Europäische
Stammtafeln 2 (1984): 83 (sub England), 90 (sub Scotland), 111 (sub Norway);
3 Pt. 1 (1984): 63 (sub Dreux); 3 Pt. 4 (1989): 642 (sub
Montfort). Nottingham Medieval Studies 30 (1986): 20-45. E.B. Fryde Handbook
of British Chron. (1986): 58. J.E. Sayer Original Papal Docs. in
England & Wales (1198-1304) (1999): 154. P. Van Kerrebrouck Les Capétians
987-1328 (2000): 315-316, 325.
iii. BEATRICE (or BÉATRICE) OF ENGLAND, married JEAN DE BRETAGNE, Knt., Duke
of Brittany, Earl of Richmond [see
WYDEVILLE 5].10
iv. EDMUND OF ENGLAND, Knt., Earl of Leicester, Derby, and Lancaster,
married BLANCHE OF ARTOIS [see
LANCASTER 5].11
v. RICHARD OF ENGLAND, born about 1247, died 29 August 1250, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of
England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
vi. JOHN OF ENGLAND, born Advent 1250, died 31 August 1252, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of
England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
vii. KATHERINE OF ENGLAND, born 25 Nov. 1253, died at Windsor Castle 3 May
1257. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England
(1677): 94. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
viii. WILLIAM OF ENGLAND, died 1259, buried at New Temple. F. Sandford Gen.
Hist. of the Kings of England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal
Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
ix. HENRY OF ENGLAND, born May 1260, died 10 Oct. 1260, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England
(1677): 93. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
children of Henry III of England
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taf
Re: children of Henry III of England
On Mar 4, 4:51 am, "Rashid Amora" <doo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
These are taken from Sandford, and predate him, but there is no
contemporary support for them. This is all the more damning when
viewed in the context of the documentation that exists for all of the
other pregnancies, confinements, and in some cases deaths. A recent
analysis has concluded that their existence should be viewed with
skepticism.
taf
hello to you all, I found this on the website of Douglas Richardson
(http://www.royalancestry.net/_pdf/pa_01/plantagenet.pdf).
It concerns the children of Henry III. I thought that the sons Richard,
John, WIlliam and Henry were errors. But in this document one can find
actually dates (birth and/or death) for these four children. So what is
correct>? Did these children really exist?
These are taken from Sandford, and predate him, but there is no
contemporary support for them. This is all the more damning when
viewed in the context of the documentation that exists for all of the
other pregnancies, confinements, and in some cases deaths. A recent
analysis has concluded that their existence should be viewed with
skepticism.
taf
-
Gjest
Re: children of Henry III of England
On Mar 4, 4:51 am, "Rashid Amora" <doo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please see Margaret Howell, The Children of King Henry III and Eleanor
of Provence (1992). I think Boydell & Brewer published this in one of
their Thirteenth Century Conference Proceedings books.
Henry Sutliff
hello to you all, I found this on the website of Douglas Richardson
(http://www.royalancestry.net/_pdf/pa_01/plantagenet.pdf).
It concerns the children of Henry III. I thought that the sons Richard,
John, WIlliam and Henry were errors. But in this document one can find
actually dates (birth and/or death) for these four children. So what is
correct>? Did these children really exist?
Thanks in advance,
Rashid
Children of Henry III of England, by Eleanor of Provence:
i. EDWARD I OF ENGLAND [see next].
ii. MARGARET (or MARGERY) OF ENGLAND, born 29 Oct. 1240. She married (as his
1st wife) at York, Yorkshire 26 Dec. 1251
ALEXANDER III, King of Scotland, son and heir of Alexander II, King of
Scotland, by his 2nd wife, Mary, daughter of Enguerrand III
de Coucy, seigneur of Coucy. He was born at Roxburgh 4 Sept. 1241. They had
two sons, Alexander and David, and one daughter,
Margaret (wife of Eric Magnusson, King of Norway). His wife, Margaret, died
26 Feb. 1274/5, buried at Dunfermline. King Alexander
III married (2nd) at Jedburgh 14 Oct. 1285 Yolande, Countess of Montfort-l'Amaury,
daughter of Robert IV, Count of Dreux, Braine, and
Montfort-l'Aumary, by Beatrice, daughter and heiress of Jean I, Count of
Montfort-l'Amaury. They had no issue. Alexander III, King of
Scotland, was killed falling over a cliff at Kinghorn 19 March 1285/6, and
was buried at Dunfermline. No living descendants. F.
Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England (1677): 93. T. Rymer Fodera 1
Pt. 2 (1816): 565 (Alexander styled "brother[-in-law]" [fratris] by
King Edward I of England). T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
G. Demay Inventaire des Sceaux de la Flandre 1 (1873): 3 (seal
of Alexander III). Scots Peerage 1 (1904): 6-7 (sub Kings of Scotland).
D.N.B. 1 (1908): 264-267 (biog. of Alexander III). C.P.R. 1266-
1272 (1913): 250, 325, 365, 510 (instance of Margaret, Queen of Scotland,
styled "king's daughter"). D. Schwennicke Europäische
Stammtafeln 2 (1984): 83 (sub England), 90 (sub Scotland), 111 (sub Norway);
3 Pt. 1 (1984): 63 (sub Dreux); 3 Pt. 4 (1989): 642 (sub
Montfort). Nottingham Medieval Studies 30 (1986): 20-45. E.B. Fryde Handbook
of British Chron. (1986): 58. J.E. Sayer Original Papal Docs. in
England & Wales (1198-1304) (1999): 154. P. Van Kerrebrouck Les Capétians
987-1328 (2000): 315-316, 325.
iii. BEATRICE (or BÉATRICE) OF ENGLAND, married JEAN DE BRETAGNE, Knt., Duke
of Brittany, Earl of Richmond [see
WYDEVILLE 5].10
iv. EDMUND OF ENGLAND, Knt., Earl of Leicester, Derby, and Lancaster,
married BLANCHE OF ARTOIS [see
LANCASTER 5].11
v. RICHARD OF ENGLAND, born about 1247, died 29 August 1250, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of
England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
vi. JOHN OF ENGLAND, born Advent 1250, died 31 August 1252, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of
England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
vii. KATHERINE OF ENGLAND, born 25 Nov. 1253, died at Windsor Castle 3 May
1257. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England
(1677): 94. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
viii. WILLIAM OF ENGLAND, died 1259, buried at New Temple. F. Sandford Gen.
Hist. of the Kings of England (1677): 92. T. Wright Feudal
Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
ix. HENRY OF ENGLAND, born May 1260, died 10 Oct. 1260, buried at
Westminster Abbey. F. Sandford Gen. Hist. of the Kings of England
(1677): 93. T. Wright Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872).
Please see Margaret Howell, The Children of King Henry III and Eleanor
of Provence (1992). I think Boydell & Brewer published this in one of
their Thirteenth Century Conference Proceedings books.
Henry Sutliff
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Peter Stewart
Re: children of Henry III of England
<suthen@redshift.com> wrote in message
news:1175230186.098792.206840@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 4, 4:51 am, "Rashid Amora" <doo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Right, Hap - this is in _Thirteenth Century England_ 4 (Proceedings of the
Newcastle-upon-Tyne Conference 1991) 57-72.
Peter Stewart
news:1175230186.098792.206840@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 4, 4:51 am, "Rashid Amora" <doo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please see Margaret Howell, The Children of King Henry III and Eleanor
of Provence (1992). I think Boydell & Brewer published this in one of
their Thirteenth Century Conference Proceedings books.
Right, Hap - this is in _Thirteenth Century England_ 4 (Proceedings of the
Newcastle-upon-Tyne Conference 1991) 57-72.
Peter Stewart