Montgomery Matters: parentage of Elizabeth de Eglinton

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John P. Ravilious

Montgomery Matters: parentage of Elizabeth de Eglinton

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 18 feb 2007 18:37:53

Sunday, 17 February, 2007


Hello All,

Virtually all printed accounts of the Montgomery family (later
Earls of Eglinton) give Elizabeth de Eglinton as (1) daughter of
Sir Hugh de Eglinton by a wife, Giles/Egidia Stewart, and (2)
wife of John Montgomery (of Eglinton, de jure uxoris) and mother
of Sir John Montgomery of Eglinton (d. ca. 1428). The last
matter, as to her son, is correct, but the other two
identifications are erroneous.

As stated in Scots Peerage with regard to Elizabeth de
Eglinton, 'She has been stated (cf. Exch. Rolls, iv. cxclv) to
be Sir Hugh's daughter by Egidia Stewart, but the dates will not
admit of this... She must have been a child of his earlier
marriage with Agnes More, which took place before 1348...' [1].
Egidia Stewart's first husband, Sir James Lindsay, died ca. 1357,
but before 11 Nov. 1358. The dispensation for her marriage to
Sir Hugh de Eglinton, granted by Pope Urban V at Avignon,
11 Kal. March [19 Feb.] 1362/3, appears to be post-nuptial:

' To Hugh de Eglynton, knight, and Egidia de Lyndesay,
damsel, of the diocese of Glasgow. Dispensation, on petition
of John, king of the French, to intermarry, notwithstanding
that Hugh has cohabited with a woman related to Egidia in
the third degree of kindred. ' [2]

As to the marriage of Elizabeth de Eglinton, Andrew B. W.
MacEwen has proven (publication pending) that Sir Alexander
de Montgomery was the husband of Elizabeth, and the father
of Sir John de Montgomery (d. ca. 1428) by her. If the
Douglas marriage of Alexander de Montgomery mentioned in
SP III:427 ever took place, it has no genealogical impact as
Sir John de Montgomery was clearly the son of Elizabeth de
Eglinton. The two Johns de Montgomery are actually one
individual, being best known for the benefits of his
participation in the battle of Otterburn (1388).


1) Agnes Mure = Sir Hugh = 2) Giles
I de Eglinton Stewart
I ( she m. 1stly
I Sir James Lindsay;
I 3rdly Sir James
Sir Alexander = Elizabeth Douglas of Dalkeith)
Montgomery I de Eglinton
___________I________________
I I I
Sir John Alexander Hugh


Cheers,

John *



NOTES

[1] SP III:428, sub Montgomerie, Earl of Eglinton.

[2] Bliss and Tremlow, CPL IV:87.


* John P. Ravilious

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