Dear Newsgroup,
Some brief notes on one branch of the Foliot family:
The family of Thomas Foliot and Katherine Lygon, among other sources, is
referenced in "Ligon Family and Connections" (New York, 1947) on page 101.
The christening records for six of their nine children can be found in the
Pirton (co. Worcester) Parish Registers.
John, 15 Feb. 1567
Henry, 18 Dec. 1569
Eleanor, 3 Nov. 1571
Constance, 4 Jan. 1573
Francis, 24 Nov. 1579
Margaret, 22 Apr. 1585
The second son, Henry, was created Lord Folliott of Ballyshannon and an
account of him can be found in Complete Peerage, V: 543. Cp notes that Henry
was 17 years old in 1586 indicating he was born c. 1569. His christening
record would be an addition to the CP account.
This family is also noted in the Visitation of Worcester, 1569 (London:
H.S.P., 1888), [H.S.P., vol. 27], pp. 55-6. The youngest daughter Margaret
is depicted as marrying "Edmond Escott of ... in com. Gloster." The marriage
of Margaret to Edmund Estcourt was also recorded in Pirton on 26 Feb. 1606.
Edmund was the son of Thomas & Hannah (Ayscough?) Estcourt. He was
christened 4 June 1573 in Shipton Moyne, co. Gloucester. A brief outline of
the Estcourt family can be found in the Visitation of the County of
Gloucester, 1623 (London: H.S.P., 1885) [H.S.P., vol. 21], p. 56. The
christenings of seven of Edmund's siblings can be found in the Shipton Moyne
Parish Registers. The only one missing is his older brother, Thomas
Estcourt, knt., who married Mary Savage.
The oldest son of Thomas & Katherine (Lygon) Foliot, John Foliot, knt.,
married Elizabeth Aylmer (Elmer). Although "Ligon Family and Connections"
only notes four children of this couple, the Visitation of Worcester, 1569,
notes nine sons and three daughters. The christening records for the second
and third sons, Thomas and Francis, are also found in the Pirton Parish
Registers.
Thomas, 4 Apr. 1595
Francis, 21 Mar. 1595[/6?]
Thomas & Katherine's eighth son, was Rev. Edward Foliot, who eventually
emigrated to Virginia where he died in 1690. He is stated to be 22 years old
in 1632, indicating he was born c. 1610.
Rev. Edward Foliot's christening record, as well as that of his younger
brother, John, is recorded in the Severn Stoke (co. Worcester) Parish
Registers:
Edward, 27 Nov. 1609.
John, Oct. 1615.
Hopefully this will add a few details to this branch of the Foliot family.
Now for the query:
Thomas Foliot (m. Katherine Lygon) had a younger sister, Elizabeth, who was
christened 29 Jan. 1540 at Pirton. John G. Hunt, in a series of articles
published in the NEHGR (121: 25 et seq; 122: 175 et seq; 124: 182 et seq)
titled "The Mayflower Winslows - Yeomen or Gentlemen?", suggested that while
Kenelm Winslow was obviously of the yeoman class, there was evidence to show
that his son Edward Winslow (father of the five Colonial New England
immigrants) was of the gentry class, and that this connection probably
derived from Edward's mother, whose identity is unknown. He speculated that
Elizabeth Foliot, sister of the above noted Thomas, was a likely candidate
for Edward Winslow's mother. If this were the case, then Rev. Edward Foliot
and Edward Winslow would be first cousins once removed. Apparently, though
Mr. Hunt's identification was supported by some of the evidence he
presented, it was not sufficient to support his speculation. I understand
that there has been further speculation on Mr. Hunt's identification. Can
someone summarize the evidences, speculations, arguments, etc. for and
against the identity of the mother of Edward Winslow?
Thank you.
Hal Bradley
Foliot Notes and Query
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Re: Foliot Notes and Query
On Feb 16, 2:53 pm, "Hal Bradley" <hw.brad...@verizon.net> wrote:
I would read "The `Loving Cosens:' Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur
Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow" by Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, NEHGR
154 (2000):78-108. Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick is a nom de plume of the
late Marshall K. Kirk.
Dear Newsgroup,
Some brief notes on one branch of the Foliot family:
The family of Thomas Foliot and Katherine Lygon, among other sources, is
referenced in "Ligon Family and Connections" (New York, 1947) on page 101.
The christening records for six of their nine children can be found in the
Pirton (co. Worcester) Parish Registers.
John, 15 Feb. 1567
Henry, 18 Dec. 1569
Eleanor, 3 Nov. 1571
Constance, 4 Jan. 1573
Francis, 24 Nov. 1579
Margaret, 22 Apr. 1585
The second son, Henry, was created Lord Folliott of Ballyshannon and an
account of him can be found in Complete Peerage, V: 543. Cp notes that Henry
was 17 years old in 1586 indicating he was born c. 1569. His christening
record would be an addition to the CP account.
This family is also noted in the Visitation of Worcester, 1569 (London:
H.S.P., 1888), [H.S.P., vol. 27], pp. 55-6. The youngest daughter Margaret
is depicted as marrying "Edmond Escott of ... in com. Gloster." The marriage
of Margaret to Edmund Estcourt was also recorded in Pirton on 26 Feb. 1606.
Edmund was the son of Thomas & Hannah (Ayscough?) Estcourt. He was
christened 4 June 1573 in Shipton Moyne, co. Gloucester. A brief outline of
the Estcourt family can be found in the Visitation of the County of
Gloucester, 1623 (London: H.S.P., 1885) [H.S.P., vol. 21], p. 56. The
christenings of seven of Edmund's siblings can be found in the Shipton Moyne
Parish Registers. The only one missing is his older brother, Thomas
Estcourt, knt., who married Mary Savage.
The oldest son of Thomas & Katherine (Lygon) Foliot, John Foliot, knt.,
married Elizabeth Aylmer (Elmer). Although "Ligon Family and Connections"
only notes four children of this couple, the Visitation of Worcester, 1569,
notes nine sons and three daughters. The christening records for the second
and third sons, Thomas and Francis, are also found in the Pirton Parish
Registers.
Thomas, 4 Apr. 1595
Francis, 21 Mar. 1595[/6?]
Thomas & Katherine's eighth son, was Rev. Edward Foliot, who eventually
emigrated to Virginia where he died in 1690. He is stated to be 22 years old
in 1632, indicating he was born c. 1610.
Rev. Edward Foliot's christening record, as well as that of his younger
brother, John, is recorded in the Severn Stoke (co. Worcester) Parish
Registers:
Edward, 27 Nov. 1609.
John, Oct. 1615.
Hopefully this will add a few details to this branch of the Foliot family.
Now for the query:
Thomas Foliot (m. Katherine Lygon) had a younger sister, Elizabeth, who was
christened 29 Jan. 1540 at Pirton. John G. Hunt, in a series of articles
published in the NEHGR (121: 25 et seq; 122: 175 et seq; 124: 182 et seq)
titled "The Mayflower Winslows - Yeomen or Gentlemen?", suggested that while
Kenelm Winslow was obviously of the yeoman class, there was evidence to show
that his son Edward Winslow (father of the five Colonial New England
immigrants) was of the gentry class, and that this connection probably
derived from Edward's mother, whose identity is unknown. He speculated that
Elizabeth Foliot, sister of the above noted Thomas, was a likely candidate
for Edward Winslow's mother. If this were the case, then Rev. Edward Foliot
and Edward Winslow would be first cousins once removed. Apparently, though
Mr. Hunt's identification was supported by some of the evidence he
presented, it was not sufficient to support his speculation. I understand
that there has been further speculation on Mr. Hunt's identification. Can
someone summarize the evidences, speculations, arguments, etc. for and
against the identity of the mother of Edward Winslow?
Thank you.
Hal Bradley
I would read "The `Loving Cosens:' Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur
Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow" by Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, NEHGR
154 (2000):78-108. Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick is a nom de plume of the
late Marshall K. Kirk.