Some miscellaneous comments, etc., about all of those books which have
been "carefully scanned" (their words) by Google books.
Part 1: Several gripes.
In these "carefully scanned" books, I have found:
missing pages,
sections where the even numbered pages were scanned twice and the odd
numbers not at all,
pages chopped off at one side,
fold-out genealogical tables scanned folded-in.
I have seen such errors often enough to make me disbelieve the word
"carefully" in Google's claim.
Part 2: A few questions.
Are there any multi-volume works in which all volumes (rather than
just a selection) have been scanned? (I cannot provide such an
example.)
Is there any way of knowing which volumes of a multi-volume work have
been scanned? (Searches often give access to only one volume even if
more are available.)
If more than one volume is available, how do you access them? (See
below for one way which works sometimes.)
Part 3: A couple of tips.
Unlike most searches, Google book searches distinguish between
accented and unaccented letters, so watch those diacriticals when you
do a search on Google books!
Different searches will sometimes produce different volumes of
multi-volume works, although usually not more than one volume per
search, and you usually have to click on the title page to see which
volume you have hit.
Stewart Baldwin
Google books - miscellaneous rant
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James Dempster
Re: Google books - miscellaneous rant
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:05:39 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
I couldn't agree more. There has been little care in the scanning and
no thought as to the usability of the indexing of books. This is
particularly the case with multi-volume works.
Another gripe is the scanning of plates with the protective sheet
still in place.
BTW if anyone knows how to find all three volumes of Pitcairn's
"Criminal Trials in Scotland" please let me know.
James
James Dempster
You know you've had a good night
when you wake up
and someone's outlining you in chalk.
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote:
Some miscellaneous comments, etc., about all of those books which have
been "carefully scanned" (their words) by Google books.
Part 1: Several gripes.
In these "carefully scanned" books, I have found:
missing pages,
sections where the even numbered pages were scanned twice and the odd
numbers not at all,
pages chopped off at one side,
fold-out genealogical tables scanned folded-in.
I have seen such errors often enough to make me disbelieve the word
"carefully" in Google's claim.
Part 2: A few questions.
Are there any multi-volume works in which all volumes (rather than
just a selection) have been scanned? (I cannot provide such an
example.)
Is there any way of knowing which volumes of a multi-volume work have
been scanned? (Searches often give access to only one volume even if
more are available.)
If more than one volume is available, how do you access them? (See
below for one way which works sometimes.)
Part 3: A couple of tips.
Unlike most searches, Google book searches distinguish between
accented and unaccented letters, so watch those diacriticals when you
do a search on Google books!
Different searches will sometimes produce different volumes of
multi-volume works, although usually not more than one volume per
search, and you usually have to click on the title page to see which
volume you have hit.
Stewart Baldwin
I couldn't agree more. There has been little care in the scanning and
no thought as to the usability of the indexing of books. This is
particularly the case with multi-volume works.
Another gripe is the scanning of plates with the protective sheet
still in place.
BTW if anyone knows how to find all three volumes of Pitcairn's
"Criminal Trials in Scotland" please let me know.
James
James Dempster
You know you've had a good night
when you wake up
and someone's outlining you in chalk.
-
Denis Beauregard
Re: Google books - miscellaneous rant
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:05:39 GMT, Stewart Baldwin
<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:
Scan was likely by auto-feeding scanners and not by humans. In many
cases, I search on books.google.fr and then download the book from
gallica.bnf.fr (a much better scanning quality).
L'art de vérifier les dates
This series has a lot of genealogical data for noble families,
but if you search for it, you see one result. Then, you open
the book and there are 3 more versions, and if you search, you
will find some more numbers but not the whole series.
With luck ?
I don't think so. But it will display them only if you typed them.
But I have seen some books where a given word was on nearly all
pages while the search skipped those words.
When you are lucky. I found many cases where there is no hint
about the volume (among partly displayed books) while the series
is available on gallica. i.e. having the volume, I could download
the other copy and read it even if not viewable from google.
Denis
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<sbaldw@mindspring.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval:
Some miscellaneous comments, etc., about all of those books which have
been "carefully scanned" (their words) by Google books.
Part 1: Several gripes.
In these "carefully scanned" books, I have found:
missing pages,
sections where the even numbered pages were scanned twice and the odd
numbers not at all,
pages chopped off at one side,
fold-out genealogical tables scanned folded-in.
I have seen such errors often enough to make me disbelieve the word
"carefully" in Google's claim.
Scan was likely by auto-feeding scanners and not by humans. In many
cases, I search on books.google.fr and then download the book from
gallica.bnf.fr (a much better scanning quality).
Part 2: A few questions.
Are there any multi-volume works in which all volumes (rather than
just a selection) have been scanned? (I cannot provide such an
example.)
L'art de vérifier les dates
This series has a lot of genealogical data for noble families,
but if you search for it, you see one result. Then, you open
the book and there are 3 more versions, and if you search, you
will find some more numbers but not the whole series.
If more than one volume is available, how do you access them? (See
below for one way which works sometimes.)
With luck ?
Part 3: A couple of tips.
Unlike most searches, Google book searches distinguish between
accented and unaccented letters, so watch those diacriticals when you
do a search on Google books!
I don't think so. But it will display them only if you typed them.
But I have seen some books where a given word was on nearly all
pages while the search skipped those words.
Different searches will sometimes produce different volumes of
multi-volume works, although usually not more than one volume per
search, and you usually have to click on the title page to see which
volume you have hit.
When you are lucky. I found many cases where there is no hint
about the volume (among partly displayed books) while the series
is available on gallica. i.e. having the volume, I could download
the other copy and read it even if not viewable from google.
Denis
--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765
oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginning to 1765