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Fw: King's Kinsfolk: King Charles II of Navarre's kinsman, S

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 05 feb 2007 01:57:12

Dear Douglas,
Your message made me look for the House of Julich in ES Volume XVIII Tafel
29. Here Sir Eustace is shown as having married Elisabeth/Isabelle von
Julich 29 September 1360 at Wingham, Kent. He is recorded as a KG and died
shortly after 1 December 1372 near Evreux.

When Charles II 'the Bad' called him his cousin in 1366, could that have
been in honour of Sir Eustache's wife? They are third cousins.

Sir Eustache has to be Sir Sanchet d'Abrichecourt (Aubericourt) who was one
of the founding knights of the Order of the Garter.

In Cahiers de Saint Louis last volume page 23, he is called Eustache
(Sanche) and their son Guillaume as "without known posterity.".
Sadly I cannot find any parents for Eustace. The only mention of a
Dabridgecourt I can find is a Sir John (died in 1415) and in 1413 became a
Knight of the Garter.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval,soc.history.medieval
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: King's Kinsfolk: King Charles II of Navarre's kinsman,Sir Eustace
d'Auberchicourt


Dear Newsgroup ~

Sir Eustace (or Eustache) d'Auberchicourt (or d'Abrichecourt,
Dabridgecourt) (died 1372), captain of Carentan, Lieutenant of
Limousin and Périgord, veteran of the famous Battle of Poitiers, is
best known to newsgroup members as the second husband of Elizabeth of
Jülich (or Jüliers) (died 1411), widow of John, Earl of Kent. It is
well established that Elizabeth of Jülich was the niece of Queen
Philippe of Hainault, wife of King Edward III of England. Sir Eustace
and Elizabeth's son, William d'Auberchicourt, for instance, is styled
"kinsman" [consanguine] of Queen Philippe of Hainault on the
monumental brass at his tomb at Bridport, Dorset [Reference: Rogers,
Antient Sepulchral Effigies (1877): 105-106].

Recently, I learned that Sir Eustace d'Auberchicourt has royal
connections of his own. It appears that Sir Eustace was styled "très
chiere et féal cousin" by King Charles (or Carlos) II of Navarre in
1366 [Reference: Documents des Archives de la Chambre des Comptes de
Navarre (Bibliothèque de l'École des hautes etudes 84) (1886):155].
See the following weblink for this reference:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=06Pes ... #PPP203,M1

At the present time, I'm unaware of the nature of the kinship between
Sir Eustace and King Charles II. However, Sir Eustace must have
something rather exalted in his ancestry, as King Charles II's
ancestry for the first five generations goes back to the top families
of Continental Europe, including three descents from the Kings of
France, and other descents from the Kings of Navarre, the Dukes of
Brabant, Brittany, and Burgundy, and the Counts of Artois.

While it is believed that Sir Eustace d'Auberchicourt's descendants
remained on the Continent, I believe his brother, Nicholas, of
Stratfield Say, Hampshire, left descendants in England who occur under
the name, Dabridgecourt. If so, it would seem well worth researching
the Dabridgecourt ancestry to determine the exact connection between
Sir Eustace and King Charles II of Navarre. Among Nicholas
Dabridgecourt's probable descendants is the immigrant, William Leete,
colonial Governor of Connecticut, for which please see Gary Boyd
Roberts, Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants (2006): 538-539.

For limited but useful information on the early Dabridgecourt family,
interested parties may wish to read the material written by Beltz at
the following weblink:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1 ... 65-PA90,M1

Lastly, there is a surviving seal of Sir Eustace d'Auberchicourt
dating 1361 which is described in Ellis, Catalogue of Seals in the
P.R.O., 2 (1981): 31:

A shield of arms, couché: ermine, three bars each with three
indistinct charges; helm above with mantling and crest: from a
coronet, a double plume of feathers, ermine and barred as in the
arms. The background is diapered with cinquefoils within octagons.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah


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Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Fw: King's Kinsfolk: King Charles II of Navarre's kinsma

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 05 feb 2007 06:56:48

In message of 5 Feb, "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote:

Sir Eustache has to be Sir Sanchet d'Abrichecourt (Aubericourt) who
was one of the founding knights of the Order of the Garter.

In Cahiers de Saint Louis last volume page 23, he is called Eustache
(Sanche) and their son Guillaume as "without known posterity.".
Sadly I cannot find any parents for Eustace. The only mention of a
Dabridgecourt I can find is a Sir John (died in 1415) and in 1413 became a
Knight of the Garter.

Interestingly St John Hope in his "Plantagenet Stall Plates", pub 1902,
which includes a picture of Sanchet's arms still surviving in St
George's Chapel, Windsor, says:

1. His arms were Gules two bars and a bordure ermine and that he died
about 1360. His stall plate was put up after his death, and has been
dated to 1421 (I can provide a picture of this magnificent object if
anyone is interested). His father may have been Sir Nicholas
Dabrichecourt of Aubricicourt near Bouchain in Ostrevant.

2. He had a brother Eustace whose arms had three charged escallops on
the bars.

3. John Dabridgecourt KG was also a brother (this has to be rubbish from
the dates) and his arms had an annulet for difference.

Grace Holmes in her "The Order of the Garter", pub 1984, says Sanchet's
death date is unknown and her other data refutes St John Hope's death
date for him.

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