attention - I had not been aware of it.
William George Dimack Fletcher in his 1887 book 'Leicestershire
Pedigrees and Royal Descents', has Sir William Turville of Aston
Flamville, Leics. (d. 1549) married to Helen Ferrers, daughter of Sir
John Ferrers of Tamworth Castle (d. 1509) and Dorothy Harper.
From 'A Gentry Community: Leicestershire in the Fifteenth Century,
c.1422-c.1485' by Eric Acheson [Cambridge University Press, 2003], pp.
254-255:
"The family of Turville acquired the manor of Aston Flamville by the
marriage before 1399 of Richard Turville to Katherine, daughter and
heir of Sir William Flamville. Richard's son, also Richard, married
Margaret Bugge, sister and heir of Baldwin. This Richard died about
1435 but the much married Margaret lived until 1474. At her death, her
grandson, John Turville, inherited her manors of Normanton Turville,
Thurlaston, Stoke Golding, Wigston Magna and Croft. John was the son
of William Turville and his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas
Fouleshurst. John married Katherine, daughter and coheir of Thomas
Staunton who bore him six children before his death in 1506. Very
occasionally, the name Turville appears among the lists of
Leicestershire electors, including Richard Turville who helped to elect
his brother-in-law, Baldwin Bugge, in 1426.
However, between 1422 and 1485, no member of the family served in any
office within the shire."
William Turville, esquire, of Aston Flamville and Normanton Turville,
Leicestershire (c.1483-1549), was the eldest son and heir of John
Turville and Katherine Staunton. But his first wife, Helen Ferrers
(said to have died 1508), could not have been the daughter of John
Ferrers II of Tamworth (d. 1512) and Dorothy Harpur, as Helen was a
mother by 1502, and John and Dorothy's son and heir Humphrey Ferrers
was born about 1497. Instead, Helen fits in better chronologically as
daughter of Sir John Ferrers I of Tamworth and Maud Stanley.
That there was a connection between the Ferrers of Tamworth and
Turville of Aston Flamville families is proven by Sir John Ferrers II
making William Turville a feoffee in 1508, in the following grant that
Will Johnson had posted to the newsgroup last year:
Birmingham City Archives: Adderley family of Hams Hall, Warwickshire
(Baron Norton) [MS 917/1073 - MS 917A/174]
Adderley family of Hams Hall, Warwickshire (Baron Norton)
Catalogue Ref. MS 917
Creator(s): Adderley family, Barons Norton of Fillongley, Warwickshire
TITLE DEEDS TO LAND
Warwickshire
Conventry
Stivichall
FILE - Grant. John Ferrers, knt., to Walter Gryffyth, knt., William
Turvyll, esq., John Curson of Croxsale [Croxall, co. Staff.], esq.,
William Chetwyn, esq., William Boughton, esq., Christopher
Seyntg[er]man, gent., Nicholas Harpur, gent., and Henry Boughton, gent.
Manor of Stichehalle [Stivichall] near Coventre [Conventry, co. War.]
and le Marston [Lea Marston, co. War.], and half of the Manor of
Horborowe [Harborough] co. War., with appurtenances, etc. to hold to
the use of the said Sir John and Dorothy his wife; also half of a
pasture called le Hames, in Le Marston, to hold to the use of Roger
Ferrers, his uncle. (Please order number 110) - ref. MS 917/1840 -
date: 5 October 24 Hen VII[1508]
The fact that William Turville is listed immediately following Sir
Walter Griffith (a known brother-in-law of John Ferrers II), and before
William Chetwynd, esquire (another known brother-in-law of John Ferrers
II) lends support to William Turville also being a brother-in-law of
John Ferrers II, though definitive proof remains to be seen.
This would add yet another family - the Turvilles of Normanton
Turville, Leics. - to the list of families that have, by the early
1500s, gateway ancestor William Ferrers, 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby
(1333-1371), as their sole link to a descent from Edward I. The other
families include:
Browne of Snelston
Chetwynd of Alspath and Ingestre, Staffordshire
Clerke of Forde Hall, Kent
Coke of Trusley, Derbyshire
Cotton of Oxenhoath, Kent
Ferrers of Tamworth and of Baddesley Clinton
Giffard of Chillington, Staffordshire
Gresley of Drakelow, Derbyshire
Griffith of Burton Agnes, Yorkshire
Holt of Grislehurst
Leigh of Stockwell, Surrey
Longford of Longford, Derbyshire
Cheers, -------Brad