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Leo van de Pas

Fw: Claimants to the English throne

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 11 jan 2007 22:23:28

"What if" if often an interesting game, but it seems to me a waste of time
as nothing will be achieved.

What if the princes in the Tower had not disappeared

What if Richard III had won in stead of loosing

What if Henry VIII had had a legitimate son who grew up to adulthood
marriage and children?

I am sure many can think of more of such questions. The trouble is that
"What if" did not happen, and if it had those "different kings/Queens" of
England would have married different spouses and their descendancy would
have been different, the whole history of England would have been different.

What if is a fun game, but such a waste of time when it is done on this
scale. They could have asked a different question----like can you trace your
ancestry to (whatever). Cleverly they talk about taking "your heritage" to
Edward the Confessor (and others). They could not ask "Are you descended
fromn Edward the Confessor" as he had no children. But what is the heritage
(in 2007) that could be taken back to Edward the Confessor?

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: "CE Wood" <wood_ce@msn.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Claimants to the English throne


That was obviously a typo, as he is correctly spelled further down the
page. Admittedly, if they are truly concerned with the accuracy of
ancestry, they should have caught the typo.

CE Wood


m...@btinternet.com wrote:
hevenyng...@aol.com wrote:
I see on the BBC news today that English Heritage are looking for the
alternate claimant to the English throne.

If you want to apply for the position take a look at English Heritage's
website at http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/serv ... /nav.10807


The references to "Edgar Aetherling" do not inspire confidence...


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John P. Ravilious

Re: Fw: Claimants to the English throne

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 11 jan 2007 22:44:17

Dear Leo,

I'm sure that no one (of the list, anyway) takes the suggestion
of Claiming the Throne seriously. At the same time, I assume they will
get some responses.

But it's not all for naught. This will probably give "Prince
Michael of Albany" something to do for the next several weeks.......

Cheers,

John



Leo van de Pas wrote:
"What if" if often an interesting game, but it seems to me a waste of time
as nothing will be achieved.

What if the princes in the Tower had not disappeared

What if Richard III had won in stead of loosing

What if Henry VIII had had a legitimate son who grew up to adulthood
marriage and children?

I am sure many can think of more of such questions. The trouble is that
"What if" did not happen, and if it had those "different kings/Queens" of
England would have married different spouses and their descendancy would
have been different, the whole history of England would have been different.

What if is a fun game, but such a waste of time when it is done on this
scale. They could have asked a different question----like can you trace your
ancestry to (whatever). Cleverly they talk about taking "your heritage" to
Edward the Confessor (and others). They could not ask "Are you descended
fromn Edward the Confessor" as he had no children. But what is the heritage
(in 2007) that could be taken back to Edward the Confessor?

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: "CE Wood" <wood_ce@msn.com
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Claimants to the English throne


That was obviously a typo, as he is correctly spelled further down the
page. Admittedly, if they are truly concerned with the accuracy of
ancestry, they should have caught the typo.

CE Wood


m...@btinternet.com wrote:
hevenyng...@aol.com wrote:
I see on the BBC news today that English Heritage are looking for the
alternate claimant to the English throne.

If you want to apply for the position take a look at English Heritage's
website at http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/serv ... /nav.10807


The references to "Edgar Aetherling" do not inspire confidence...


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Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Fw: Claimants to the English throne

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 11 jan 2007 23:23:34

In message of 11 Jan, "John P. Ravilious" <therav3@aol.com> wrote:

Dear Leo,

I'm sure that no one (of the list, anyway) takes the suggestion
of Claiming the Throne seriously. At the same time, I assume they will
get some responses.

But it's not all for naught. This will probably give "Prince
Michael of Albany" something to do for the next several weeks.......

In part I agree with this statement about the non-prince. The point is
that the line of claim does go through the Scottish kings to the
English Sovereign, arriving at our current one:

1. Of Edward the Confessor, Harold and Edgar Aetheling, the last is
the successor to the other two as he was appointed such in 1066.

2. I have been unable to find any evidence of children to Edgar
Aetheling; so his heir was his sister St Margaret who married
Malcolm III king of Scotland.

3. The line from St Margaret follows that of the Scottish throne to
James VI of Scotland.

4. James the VI was also James I of England so the line follows his
successors, which is to the current sovereign, Elizabeth II.

Doubtless the non-prince would get quite excited by the fourth step.

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Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
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