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Leo van de Pas

Royal descents

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 23 des 2006 08:43:33

Dear Will,

What a horrendous question.

I have just finished a project (with Ian Fettes) which gives lines of
descent from Geoffrey V of Anjou.
For the selected people only the shortest (according to the ancestor list
system) is given but by the person (there are 360 of these) is given the
number of descent from Geoffrey V -----which means according to my data
base. I already know that for some there are many more.

Here a few examples

Juan Carlos King of Spain 1938- ----------------------------------1,399,295
Margarethe II Queen of Denmark 1940- --------------------------1,159,191
Carl XVI Gustaf King of Sweden 1946- --------------------------1,082,798
Dr. Otto von Habsburg 1912- ------------------------------------1,021,554
Constantine II King of Greece 1940- ---------------------998,901
Michael I King of Roumania 1921- ------------------------949,927
Harald V King of Norway 1937- --------------------------787,447
Albert II King of the Belgians 1934- -----------------------683,844
Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh 1921- ----------------518,591
Beatrix Queen of The Netherlands, 1938- ----------------489,240
Umberto II, King of Italy 1904-1983----------------------407,117
Elizabeth II Queen of Great Britain 1926- ----------------297,840
Sarah Ferguson 1959- ----------------------------66,985
Albert II Prince of Monaco 1958- ----------------53,480
Lady Diana Spencer 1961-1997 -----------------41,466
Rachel Ward 1957- ------------------------------39,773
Peter de Loriol 1954- ---------------------------26,287
Jane Birkin 1946- --------------------------------25,496
Cayetana, Duchess of Alba 1926- ---------------24,944
David Cameron 1966- --------------------------24,876 (Britain's next PM?)
Lady Antonia Fraser 1932- ---------------------17,711 (author and
historian)
Gottfried von Einem 1918-1996------------------16,171 (composer)
Leka I of Albania 1939- -------------------------14,554
Brooke Shields 1965- ---------------------------12,337
Mathilde d'Udeken d'Acoz 1973- ------------------------8,471
Elizabeth the Queen Mother 1900-2002 ------------------7,957
Camilla Parker-Bowles 1947- ---------------------------7,762
Manfred von Richthofen 1892-1918 ----------------------7,219 (the Red
Baron)
Count Fritz Szapary 1869-1935---------------------------6,232
Don Scipione Borghese 1871-1927 -----------------------6,112 (Peking to
Paris)
Aga Khan IV 1936- --------------------------------------4,193
Finn Holbek 1958- -------------------------------------- 2,898
Guy Ritchie 1968- ----------------------------------------1,915 (married to
Madonna)
Hugh Grant 1960- ----------------------------------------1,842 (actor)
Simon Fairthorne 1941- ----------------------------------1,648
Bertha von Suttner 1843-1914 ---------------------------1,343 (Nobel prize
winner)
Fridtjof Nansen 1861-1930 ------------------------------1,109
Tim Powys-Lybbe 1938- ---------------------899
Wernher von Braun 1912-1977 ---------------752
John Steele Gordon 1944- --------------------605
Ian Fettes 1945- ------------------------------576
James Smithson 1765-1829 -------------------436 .......have been told he
has many more
Clifton James 1897- ---------------------------340 (during WW II was
Monty's double)
Ralph Vaughan Williams 1872-1958 -----------314 (composer)
Audrey Hepburn 1929-1993 ------------------212
Sophie Rhys-Jones 1965- ---------------------204
Tony Hoskins 1948- --------------------------179
George Walker Bush 1946- ------------------115
Gary Boyd Roberts 1943 --------------------102
Gilbert von Studnitz 1950- -------------99
Rob Roy McGregor 1671-1734 -------95
John Ravilious 1954- -----------------90
Graham Greene 1904-1991 ------------89
Sir Francis Chichester 1901-1972 -------85
George Washington 1732-1799 ---------84
Valery Giscard d'Estaing 1926- --------84
Baron Pierre de Coubertin 1863-1937 ---6 (reviver of the Olympic games)
Meriwether Lewis 1774-1809 ----------67
David Starr Jordan 1851-1931 ---------67
Pope Benedict XIII 1649-1730 ---------60
the Marquis de Sade 1740-1814 --------57
Calvin Coolidge 1872-1933 ------------46 (USA president)
Uma Thurman 1970- ------------------45
Kate Middleton 1982- ------------------44
Werner von Blomberg 1878-1946------39
Josephine de Beauharnais 1763-1814----28
Doug McDonald 1944- -----------------28
William Addams Reitwiesner 1954- -----26
Tom Hanks 1956- ----------------------9
Marcus Schenkenberg 1968- -----------8
Benjamin Harrison 1833-1901 ---------8 (USA president)
George Andrews Moriarty 1883-1968 ------8
Jacques Lucien Monod 1910-1976 -----7 (Nobel prize winner)
Prince Henrik of Denmark 1934- ------6
Donald Lines Jacobus 1887-1970 -------4
Arturo Beeche 1965- -----------------4
Grant Menzies 1964- ------------------3
Michael Andrews-Reading 1968- -------2
Hermann Goering 1893-1946 ------------2


You ask about Edward III but the best person to ask is Ian Fettes, but I
doubt that he is able to say who has the most, because that is really a
kind
of guessing.............who had thought that Jane Birkin had so many lines
to Geoffrey V of Anjou?

Hope this is of interest.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL@rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Royal descents


I just finished a project today where I found that my target person has no
less than seven seperate ascents to Richard Cecil.

That made me wonder if there have been studies to try to find the "most
common ancestor" of the titled class, or alternatively if there are
members of the
titled class for which every great-great-greatparent ascends to say
Edward III
or something like that.

That's not very clear is it?

I've heard that practically every European has an ascent to Charlemagne,
but
what person has the most ascents to Edward III (for example)? On this
list
there have been postings in the past showing that Prince Charles has a
lot, but
does he have the most ?

Will Johnson

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