Royal descents

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Royal descents

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 des 2006 06:54:01

I just finished a project today where I found that my target person has no
less than seven seperate ascents to Richard Cecil.

That made me wonder if there have been studies to try to find the "most
common ancestor" of the titled class, or alternatively if there are members of the
titled class for which every great-great-greatparent ascends to say Edward III
or something like that.

That's not very clear is it?

I've heard that practically every European has an ascent to Charlemagne, but
what person has the most ascents to Edward III (for example)? On this list
there have been postings in the past showing that Prince Charles has a lot, but
does he have the most ?

Will Johnson

Douglas Richardson

The Mowbray Connection by Gary Boyd Roberts

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 23 des 2006 07:59:50

WJhonson@aol.com wrote:

< I just finished a project today where I found that my target person
has no less than seven
< seperate ascents to Richard Cecil.
<
< That made me wonder if there have been studies to try to find the
"most common ancestor"
< of the titled class, or alternatively if there are members of the
titled class for which every
< great-great-greatparent ascends to say Edward III or something like
that.
<
< Will Johnson

The study you're asking about it is "The Mowbray Connection" by Gary
Boyd Roberts. Gary considers it his "life work."

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Royal descents

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 23 des 2006 09:29:52

In message of 23 Dec, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:

I just finished a project today where I found that my target person
has no less than seven seperate ascents to Richard Cecil.

That made me wonder if there have been studies to try to find the
"most common ancestor" of the titled class, or alternatively if there
are members of the titled class

That's a good one. What is the 'titled class'?

Presumably it includes the peers?
And the knights?
And the baronets?
Does it include the spouses, who are not titled, of peers, knights and
baronets?
Does it include the children of such who are also not titled, even if
they use a courtesy title?
Does it include the siblings of such, who are also not titled and some
of whom may not even descend from a titled person?
Does it include the descendants of titled people? For how many
generations?

A real minefield!

for which every great-great-greatparent ascends to say Edward III or
something like that.

That's not very clear is it?

I've heard that practically every European has an ascent to
Charlemagne, but what person has the most ascents to Edward III (for
example)? On this list there have been postings in the past showing
that Prince Charles has a lot, but does he have the most ?

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Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

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