Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Hawes)

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Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Hawes)

Legg inn av John Brandon » 20 des 2006 18:53:21

Back in '04, I posted the following:

Doug's good new book has sections dealing with the Hawes and Sheppard
families behind the immigrant Thomas Bressey of New Haven. Generation
15 in the Sheppard part of the line is (p. 649)

15. CONSTANCE HAWES, married (1st) before 1545 THOMAS SHEPPARD (or
SHEPHERD), Gent., of Maulden, Hockliffe, and Littlecote (in Stewkley),
Bedfordshire, son of William Sheppard, of Littlecote (in Stewkley),
Bedfordshire, by his wife, Alice. He was born about 1515. THOMAS
SHEPPARD left a will dated 20 Jan. 1561/2, proved 4 March 1563/4. His
widow, Constance, married (2nd) ROBERT HATLEY, of Goldington,
Bedfordshire. She was living 20 May 1574.

P.W. Hasler, _History of Parliament : The House of Commons, 1558-1603_,
2:275-76, has a bio. for Robert Hatley, M.P. (d. 1585), of Puttenhoe
and Goldington, Beds.: "m. (1) 17 Sept. 1559, Millicent, da. of one
Barre, wid. of Thomas Fairclough, s.p.; (2) 8 May 1564, Constance (d.
1596), da. of Thomas Sheppard of Hockliffe, 1s. 2da."

I assume "Constance, da. of Thomas Sheppard" is a mistake for
"Constance, widow of Thomas Sheppard," as the 1574 will of Thomas Hawes
mentions his "daughter Hatley," not "granddaughter Hatley."

Interestingly, Robert Hatley's first wife, Millicent (Barre)
Fairclough, was the grandmother of Jane Allen, first wife of the New
England immigrant Rev. Peter Bulkeley.

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Shortly after posting this, I remember finding some little wrench in my
theory and putting it on a backburner for a while, eventually
forgetting even what the objection was. However, scrounging around on
the internet, I believe I've found the problem: there is a webpage
claiming that Millicent (Barr) (Faircloth/ Fairclough) Hatley died 14
June 1585 at Goldington, Bedfordshire.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bi ... =I19494#s2

This would mean that Robert Hatley could not have had a second wife,
Mrs. Constance (Hawes) Sheppard.

However, I believe it is actually correct as I originally presented it.
For background, see the Faircloth/ Fairclough pedigree in the
_Visitation of Hertfordshire_ ...

(p. 52)
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC2 ... A2-PA52,M1

Notice that Milicent Barr's second marriage is not addressed, but that
she had sons John, Thomas, Richard and Lawrence. I believe her son
Thomas's will is the one reproduced in the NEHGR ...

(p. 254)
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0COBg ... #PPA254,M1

Notice that, at the end of the will, he mentions his father and mother
Hatley, brother Robert Hatley, sister Gertrude [? Hatley], sister
Constance Grubb, and sister Elizabeth Lenton. The following extracted
IGI records seem to tie everything together (albeit somewhat loosely)
....

Goldington, Bedford

--Rob Hattley to Millicent Fayrecloth, 17 Sept. 1559
--Rob Hattley to Constance Sheppard, 8 May 1564
--Gertrude Hatley, bapt. 5 Feb. 1565
--Robert Hatley, son of Robert, bapt. 19 Sept. 1566
--Ursula Hatley, dau. of Robert, bapt. 7 Nov. 1568
--Constance Shepheard to Eustace Grubb, 3 July 1581
--Jn Lenton to Elizabeth Shepphearde, 18 May 1585
--Gertrude Hatley to Dive Downs, 29 July 1588

The same Herts. Visitation shows the wife of Eustace Grubb to be
Constance Shepard of Hockley, thus clearly tying the Faircloths to the
family of Thomas Shepard of Hockley, who is known to have married
Constance Hawes. Her child Ursula Hatley would be named for her
sister-in-law, Mrs. Ursula (Colles) Hawes of Solihull.

(p. 60)
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC2 ... A2-PA60,M1

It seems clear that Thomas Faircloth's will referrer to the children of
his (former) step-father, Robert Hatley, as his own "brother" and
"sisters."

Presumably there is an actual burial record for a "Millicent Hattley"
on 14 June 1585 at Goldington, Bedfordshire. I suggest this would be
for an otherwise unrecorded daughter of Robert Hatley and Millicent
Barr.

John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 20 des 2006 19:09:29

Correction: Constance Shepard (m. Grubb) and Elizabeth Shepard (m.
Linton) would be daughters of Thomas Faircloth's stepfather's second
wife (children of Thomas Shepard of Hockley who m. Constance Hawes).
That is admittedly a rather far-fetched use of the term "sister" ...
but if Thomas Faircloth had a half-sister Millicent Hatley who had
Constance Grubb and Elizabeth Linton as step-sisters, I suppose it is
vaguely justified ...

John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 20 des 2006 19:38:11

If Thomas Faircloth was quite young at the death of his father (by
1559), he would not have been much older at the death of his mother (by
1564), and was therefore probably raised in the home of his stepfather
Hatley (which included a large number of other children unrelated to
him). But it may have been natural for him to think of them as his
siblings ...

Douglas Richardson

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 20 des 2006 21:43:46

Dear John

Thank you for your several posts. The information you posted is quite
helpful.

I agree that it is quite unusual for Thomas Fairclough in his 1585 will
to refer to his former step-father and his new wife as "father" and
"mother;" and, still more unusual is for Thomas to refer to his
step-father's daughters by the new wife as his "sisters." My guess is
that Thomas Fairclough was raised by his step-father, Robert Hatley,
after his mother's death, even after Robert Hatley's remarriage to
another wife.

In a related vein, I just worked on a case in Tennessee in the 1830's
where a man's step-children adopted his surname after their mother's
death and the step-father's remarriage. The reason given by the
children for the name change is because the step-father had been kind
to them, whereas their own father had been cruel. So, strange things
can certainly happen in records. I eventually found the original birth
name of the children in South Carolina records, but, needless to say,
it was an extremely difficult assignment.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

John Brandon wrote:
If Thomas Faircloth was quite young at the death of his father (by
1559), he would not have been much older at the death of his mother (by
1564), and was therefore probably raised in the home of his stepfather
Hatley (which included a large number of other children unrelated to
him). But it may have been natural for him to think of them as his
siblings ...

Douglas Richardson

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 21 des 2006 15:38:08

Dear John ~

In your first post in this thread, you mentioned the biography of
Robert Hatley, M.P., "of Puttentoe and Goldington, Bedfordshire," which
biography is found in Hasler, House of Commons, volume 2. As you have
indicated, Robert Hatley was the husband successively of Milicent
Barre, widow of Thomas Fairclough, and Constance Hawes, widow of Thomas
Sheppard, both of which wives have connections to New England.

The item below indicates that Robert Hatley leased the manor of
Puttenhoe (in Goldington), Bedfordshire from John Gostwick for 41 years
at £30 per annum. Additional details of this lease can be found in
VCH Bedford 3 (1912): 202-209.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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Source: A2A Catalogue (http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp)

Bedfordshire and Luton Archives and Record Service: Bedford Estate
(Russell) Archives

Reference: R 6/62/12/212

Creation dates: 15 Mar 1587

Scope and Content

Draft lease [not executed]

(1) William Gostwicke, of Willington

(2) Robert Hatley of Goldington

John Gostwicke, father of (1), by the indenture dated 20 March 4
Elizabeth I [1562], leased to Robert Hatley, father of (2) his manor
place, or graunge called Puttenhoe, lying in the parish of
Goldington,...with all his meadows and pastures with their
appurtnenances in Clapham, execpt Puttenhoe woode parcell of the said
manor or graunge high fyelde, fryers grove, oxecloses and cowe close
then in the tenure of Thomas Dive... from the day of the death of Dame
Margaret, then Countess of Bedford, for 41 years, at £ 30 p.a.

And if it should happen that Dame Margaret dies before the expiry of a
lease made by Henry, abbot of the late monastery of Wardon and Dame
Anne West, widow of John West, dated 2 September 27 Henry VIII [1535],
then Robert Hatley, father of (2) should lease the manor of Puttenhoe
etc.

And John Gostwicke, father of (1), by his indenture of 14 June, 4
Elizabeth I [1561], leased the said manor to Farncis Russell, 3rd son
of Francis, Earl of Bedford, for 60 years

Now (1), for the consideration of 200 hundred marks, leases the said
manor and appurtenances to (2), by the same terms of hid father's
indenture, for 21 years, at £ 30 p.a.

Dorse: 'Useless. not executed'

John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 21 des 2006 18:08:03

Dear Doug and Hal,

It is interesting that all the persons named were either biological
children or step-children of Robert Hatley. Perhaps he was a very kind
and fatherly figure ...

The only thing I would suggest is that forthcoming editions of the IGI
be checked to make sure Thomas Faircloth did not marry one of Hatley's
daughters or step-daughters. But the Herts Visitation and his own will
give no sign of that ...

John

Douglas Richardson

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 22 des 2006 02:22:08

Dear John ~

Good news! I checked the published parish records of Goldington,
Bedfordshire today. The registers show the following events, in order
of their occurence:

1. Thomas Fayrecloth was buried 13 January 1558[/59].
2. Robert Hattley and Millicent Fayrecloth were married 17 Sept. 1559.
3. Millicent Hatley was buried 23 Sept. 1563.
4. Robert Hattley and Constance Sheppard were married 8 May 1564.
5. Gertrude Hatley baptized 5 Feb. 1564[/65].
6. Robert, son of Robert Hatley, gent., baptized 19 Sept. 1566,
sponsors: Sir Robert Cattline, Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench, John
Gostwicke and Mary Radcliffe.
7. Ursula daughter of Robert Hatley baptized 7 Nov. 1568; buried 17
Sept. 1570.
8. Robert Hatley, esquire was buried 20 Sept. 1585.
9. Constance Hatley, widow, late the dear wife of Robert Hatley,
gentleman, lately decd., was buried 22 May 1596.

The above records confirm your belief that Robert Hatley, Esquire,
married (1st) Millicent Barr, widow of Thomas Faircloth, Gent., and
(2nd) Constance Hawes, widow of Thomas Sheppard, Gent.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 22 des 2006 17:49:06

Doug, this is excellent! Thanks for checking. This gives us burial
dates for two ancestresses of New England lines (Millicent and
Constance).

As I noted almost two years ago, Robert Hatley (b. 1566), son of Robert
and Constance, is shown on p. 363 of the 1635 London Visitation ...

http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/ ... index.html

I believe his wife Dorothy Hampden, whom he married 24th Oct. 1587 at
Great Hampden, was also a Brome of Baddesley Clinton descendant [she
was a daughter of Griffith Hampden, granddaughter of Elizabeth
(Ferrers) Hampden, and great-granddaughter of Edward Ferrers, by his
wife Constance Brome].

John Hatley, son of Robert, Jr., and Dorothy, married Anne, daughter of
John Porter of Lamberhurst, Esq., which Anne was a niece of Jane
(Porter) Hawes, mother of American immigrant Edmund Hawes.

Once again, good work, Douglas!

John




1. Thomas Fayrecloth was buried 13 January 1558[/59].
2. Robert Hattley and Millicent Fayrecloth were married 17 Sept. 1559.
3. Millicent Hatley was buried 23 Sept. 1563.
4. Robert Hattley and Constance Sheppard were married 8 May 1564.
5. Gertrude Hatley baptized 5 Feb. 1564[/65].
6. Robert, son of Robert Hatley, gent., baptized 19 Sept. 1566,
sponsors: Sir Robert Cattline, Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench, John
Gostwicke and Mary Radcliffe.
7. Ursula daughter of Robert Hatley baptized 7 Nov. 1568; buried 17
Sept. 1570.
8. Robert Hatley, esquire was buried 20 Sept. 1585.
9. Constance Hatley, widow, late the dear wife of Robert Hatley,
gentleman, lately decd., was buried 22 May 1596.

John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 22 des 2006 18:51:00

One other Goldington marriage record (which doesn't even show up under
the spelling "Faircloth") ...

Wm Hassilden to Mary Faercloughe, 8 Dec. 1572

This is the mother of Jane Allen, first wife of Rev. Peter Bulkeley of
Concord, Mass.


John Brandon

Re: Revisiting the marriage and death dates of Constance (Ha

Legg inn av John Brandon » 02 jan 2007 20:12:54

http://books.google.com/books?vid=0HrP2TKGW9XneD_m&id=oGMBAAAAQAAJ&pg...

Dorothy (Hampden) Hatley's sister Ruth (Hampden) (Oglethorpe)
(Scudamore) Leigh was the patron of Rev. John Wilson the immigrant to
Boston. See our article in the Jan. 2001 _Register_ ...

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