Peter Beauchamp (living 1443), lord of Lydiard Tregoze, Wilt

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Peter Beauchamp (living 1443), lord of Lydiard Tregoze, Wilt

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 01 des 2006 20:52:46

Dear Newsgroup ~

The ancient petition below was found in the helpful online National
Archives catalogue
(http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp). It concerns
a certain Peter Beauchamp who petitioned the king in 1443 regarding his
manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire. The other parties mentioned in
the petition include Sir Robert Shottesbrook (late husband of Edith
Stourton, widow of John Beauchamp, Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Beauchamp of
Bletsoe) and John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset (2nd husband of Margaret
Beauchamp, the step-daughter of Sir Robert Shottesbrook). Margaret
Beauchamp, wife of John Beaufort, is best known to newsgroup members as
the maternal grandmother of King Henry VII of England.

Peter Beauchamp was clearly near kin to Margaret Beauchamp's father,
Sir John Beauchamp, who died shortly before 10 December 1414. Peter
Beauchamp would presumably descend in some manner from Sir John
Beauchamp's great-grandparents, Sir Roger Beauchamp and his wife, Sibyl
Grandison, who obtained the manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire in
1349, by the gift of Sibyl's uncle, Peter de Grandison, 2nd Lord
Grandison. In 1444 John Covyntre, of Devysez, Wiltshire and John
Whittokesmede were pardoned for acquiring for them and their heirs the
manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire from Peter Beauchamp held in chief
[Reference: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1441-1446, page 312].

Whoever he was, Peter Beauchamp evidently died without issue or lost
his claim to the manor in question, as the manor of Lydiard Tregoze,
Wiltshire eventually passed to Margaret Beauchamp's younger son by her
first marriage, Oliver Saint John, Esquire.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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Source: National Archives Catalogue
(http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp)

SC 8/32/1574

Scope and content

Petitioners: Peter Beauchamp

Addressees: King

Places mentioned: Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire; Swindon, [Wiltshire]

Other people mentioned: Robert Shotesbroke; Robert Long; John Rogers
the younger; [John Beaufort, Earl of] Somerset; Robert Hungerford

Nature of request: Peter Beauchamp states that although in response to
a petition he put to the king last Christmas, the king wrote to Robert
Shotesbroke instructing him not to enter Peter's manor of Lydiard
Tregoze, on 23 January in the twenty-first year of the king's reign
Robert entered the manor and with force and . . . the petitioner's wife
who was there. [Much of the right-hand side of this petition is
missing, and it is hard to reconstruct what it left, but Peter states
that he sued a writ of forcible entry against Robert, and it would seem
that Robert in some way induced the jury to put aside their verdict
against him. The matter is sent to arbitration, which Robert seems to
have refused to abide by, despite his written agreement to do so,
persuading the Earl of Somerset to pretend to a title and claim in the
manor. Peter requests a letter to Robert Hungerford, and also that
Robert Shotesbroke, Robert Long and John Rogers the younger be
instructed to appear before the king and council on a certain day, and
to bring before them the agreements Robert and Peter made under
arbitration.]

Endorsement: [None]

Covering dates [1443]

Note: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1441-1446, pg. 312 is dated at
Westminster, 30 October 1444: the petition must predate this, but can
be dated more closely on internal evidence. The petitioner mentions a
bill he put to the king on the subject 'atte Cristemasse last passed',
and that nevertheless, Robert Shotesbroke entered his manor on 23
January in 'the yere of youre nobl' regne xxi', ie. 1443. This petition
must have been delivered before Christmas 1443.

celia

Re: Peter Beauchamp (living 1443), lord of Lydiard Tregoze,

Legg inn av celia » 01 des 2006 23:22:18

Douglas Richardson wrote:
Dear Newsgroup ~

The ancient petition below was found in the helpful online National
Archives catalogue
(http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp). It concerns
a certain Peter Beauchamp who petitioned the king in 1443 regarding his
manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire. The other parties mentioned in
the petition include Sir Robert Shottesbrook (late husband of Edith
Stourton, widow of John Beauchamp, Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Beauchamp of
Bletsoe) and John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset (2nd husband of Margaret
Beauchamp, the step-daughter of Sir Robert Shottesbrook). Margaret
Beauchamp, wife of John Beaufort, is best known to newsgroup members as
the maternal grandmother of King Henry VII of England.

Peter Beauchamp was clearly near kin to Margaret Beauchamp's father,
Sir John Beauchamp, who died shortly before 10 December 1414. Peter
Beauchamp would presumably descend in some manner from Sir John
Beauchamp's great-grandparents, Sir Roger Beauchamp and his wife, Sibyl
Grandison, who obtained the manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire in
1349, by the gift of Sibyl's uncle, Peter de Grandison, 2nd Lord
Grandison. In 1444 John Covyntre, of Devysez, Wiltshire and John
Whittokesmede were pardoned for acquiring for them and their heirs the
manor of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire from Peter Beauchamp held in chief
[Reference: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1441-1446, page 312].

Whoever he was, Peter Beauchamp evidently died without issue or lost
his claim to the manor in question, as the manor of Lydiard Tregoze,
Wiltshire eventually passed to Margaret Beauchamp's younger son by her
first marriage, Oliver Saint John, Esquire.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

+ + + + + + + + + + +
Source: National Archives Catalogue
(http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp)

SC 8/32/1574

Thank you I can supply further information on
some de Shottesbrookes if anyone is interested,

Celia
Scope and content

Petitioners: Peter Beauchamp

Addressees: King

Places mentioned: Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire; Swindon, [Wiltshire]

Other people mentioned: Robert Shotesbroke; Robert Long; John Rogers
the younger; [John Beaufort, Earl of] Somerset; Robert Hungerford

Nature of request: Peter Beauchamp states that although in response to
a petition he put to the king last Christmas, the king wrote to Robert
Shotesbroke instructing him not to enter Peter's manor of Lydiard
Tregoze, on 23 January in the twenty-first year of the king's reign
Robert entered the manor and with force and . . . the petitioner's wife
who was there. [Much of the right-hand side of this petition is
missing, and it is hard to reconstruct what it left, but Peter states
that he sued a writ of forcible entry against Robert, and it would seem
that Robert in some way induced the jury to put aside their verdict
against him. The matter is sent to arbitration, which Robert seems to
have refused to abide by, despite his written agreement to do so,
persuading the Earl of Somerset to pretend to a title and claim in the
manor. Peter requests a letter to Robert Hungerford, and also that
Robert Shotesbroke, Robert Long and John Rogers the younger be
instructed to appear before the king and council on a certain day, and
to bring before them the agreements Robert and Peter made under
arbitration.]

Endorsement: [None]

Covering dates [1443]

Note: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1441-1446, pg. 312 is dated at
Westminster, 30 October 1444: the petition must predate this, but can
be dated more closely on internal evidence. The petitioner mentions a
bill he put to the king on the subject 'atte Cristemasse last passed',
and that nevertheless, Robert Shotesbroke entered his manor on 23
January in 'the yere of youre nobl' regne xxi', ie. 1443. This petition
must have been delivered before Christmas 1443.

dunsland@yahoo.com

Re: Peter Beauchamp (living 1443), lord of Lydiard Tregoze,

Legg inn av dunsland@yahoo.com » 28 des 2006 10:30:18

celia wrote:
I can supply further information on
some de Shottesbrookes if anyone is interested,

I am descended from Eleanor Shotesbrooke who according to the

information I have married Sir John Cheney, King's Sergeant at Arms and
Victualler of calais (d. 1468). Their granddaughter Alice Cheney who
married Sir Thomas de la Lynde is my line.
Mark

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