Fw: Rene Pot discrepancy ? ES Error?

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Fw: Rene Pot discrepancy ? ES Error?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 27 nov 2006 22:51:21

I looked a bit further and the problem is a bit bigger.


Europaische Stammtafeln
tells that Guillaume Pot the Elder married about 1345 Marguerite de Magnac, this means that their son Guillaume the younger was born about 1345/6/7 This Guillaume the Younger married Radegonde Guenand who had a son in 1345 by her first husband.


Radegonde had three sons
1.Guy VI - no date of birth but married about 1382
2.Guillaume III born about 1345
3.Pierre II - no date of birth but marries in 1402

If, guess, Radegonde was about 16 when she married her first husband (who died in 1350) she would have been born roughly 1327. Would Radegonde have remained a widow for about 10 years and then marry someone (born 1345/6/7) so much younger and have a son by him in about 1362? Except for that 10 year interval, to me it seems possible as Guillaume the younger, if he is the father of Rene, would have been his father's heir.
Leo

----- Original Message -----
From: Leo van de Pas
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: Rene Pot discrepancy ? ES Error?


This Rene Pot is an ancestor of many interesting people, to mention a few :
Brooke Shields, Rachel Ward, Lady Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson and many more.

ES XV Tafel 144 gives
Rene Pot, seigneur de La Prugne, was a son of Guillaume Pot and his first wife.
Guillaume Pot married his second wife, Marguerite de Magnac, about 1345. This Tafel maintains Rene was born about 1342.

We are given that he married in 1392 when he was fifty. To me this seems unlikely for an eldest son and heir.

In 1430, when he is supposedly 88 years old, he becomes a knight in the Order of the Golden Fleece, and dies before July 1432 aged about 90.


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French historian Marie-Therese Caron has Rene Pot born about 1362 as son of (a different) Guillaume Pot and Radegonde de Guenand. This Guillaume turns out to be (same ES source) a son of the before mentioned Guillaume and his second wife Marguerite de Magnac. Radegonde was widow of Guy V de La Tremouille, by whom she had three sons, when she married Guillaume Pot.

I cannot find when Guillaume the younger died, but apparently he died when his son Rene was still very young and Rene's mentor was Guy VI de La Tremouille, a son of Radegonde by her first husband.

To confuse the matter even further, it appears that Rene did marry in 1392 but this was his second marriage and the name of his first wife is apparently not known.

Can anyone add to this? Any correction would be very much appreciated.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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