Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
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D. Spencer Hines
Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Indeed!
Hilarious!
And Good Advice.
DSH
---------------------------------------------------
Those of you who get to read my 7-page cover feature on Surnames in
the December issue of YOUR FAMILY TREE (officially out tomorrow) will
see that I have included a warning about genealogical bucket shops that
purport to sell you your "family coat of arms" and surname history. The
mag has also published an image of a totally bogus, alleged Stockdill
coat of arms I found on one of these sites. This tells me my surname
originated in Staffordshire, is related to Stockley and Stockleigh and other
such names and that I apparently descend from Norman barons!
Yesterday I fired off a few e-mails to several of these sites (all based in
the USA or Canada asking for their evidence and suggesting they
remove my supposed coat of arms from their list. To my surprise, I
actually received a reply from one of them today and it is so priceless I
simply have to share it wth you.
"Thank you for your email. Yes we have found information about the
Stockdill family in Yorkshire in the north of England and are a recorded
spelling of the Stockdale dating back to 16th century in that shire.
According to several reliable references in our library including "A
dictionary of Surnames" by Hanks and Hodges the common spellings for
your family name which comes from Yorkshire and Cumberland is
Stockdill, Stockdale, Stogdale. Other references add the spellings of
Stokedill, Stottdale, Stokedale, Stoggall, and Stogdill. In our experience
most families have at least 15 different spellings for their family name. If
you would like the family history and coat of arms just place an order. If
you order by Friday we will be able to send your family gifts by Christmas.
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com/LastChance.html
"For you information: The College of Arms, are a distinguished, very
worthy research group who were chartered in 1555 by King Philip of
Spain. They are based in England. They act as a primary registry
resource for English "Personal" Titles and Coat of Arms. They register
"personal" coat of arms - this is a more modern idea. Almost all "Family"
Coat of Arms date well before their charter date of 1555, sometimes
before the Norman Conquest in 1066. So the College of Arms may not
be your best research resource for "family" history or coat of arms
research. Note: As you family is from the far north Yorkshire and
Cumberland, the Lord Lyon may be just as appropriate for "personal"
coat of arms searches - borders have changed over the centuries.
"Our research deadline for Christmas delivery is this Friday. So
order now if you'd like the history and coat of arms for Stockdill. Our
reputation for accuracy and authenticity over the last 35 years is second
to none. All family histories carry a 100% guarantee of accuracy and
authenticity. Have a great week. Best of Luck
Elsabeth
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com
the Traceit.com Research Center Site.
COMMENTS:
1) I will allow them they have more or less got the origins of my surname
correct, though clearly all they've done is look it up in a well-known
surname dictionary which is accessible anywhere. The name Stockdale,
in fact, is recorded at least 2 centuries earlier than the 16th in
Cumberland.
2) They tell me the College of Arms was chartered in 1555 by King Philip
of Spain! Actually, it was established by Richard III in 1483 or 84.
3) They say "Almost all family coats of arms date from well before 1555,
sometimes before the Norman Conquest". Now, where do they get this
rubbish from, I wonder? Yes, there were heraldic devices before the
College was founded (the earliest known is 1136-8 in the reign of King
Stephen) but certainly not before the Conquest.
4) They appear to be suggesting that Yorkshire and Cumberland were
once in Scotland and I should contact the Lord Lyon for a search for my
coat of arms.
Needless to say, I have e-mailed them back informing them what
charlatans they are. I don't expect they'll take any notice, though.
However, perhaps for you newcomers who may be still a little gullible,
can I just say this: HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OR
ANY OTHERS LIKE THEM! If you just want something pretty to hang on
your wall, OK, but don't imagine it's your family surname history or your
personal coat of arms. Arms are granted to one individual only and
normally to his heirs in the direct male line under strict rules. Just
because there may be a genuine coat of arms for someone of your
surname, it doesn't mean you are entitled to use it.
--
Roy Stockdill
Guild of One-Name Studies: http://www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE
Hilarious!
And Good Advice.
DSH
---------------------------------------------------
Those of you who get to read my 7-page cover feature on Surnames in
the December issue of YOUR FAMILY TREE (officially out tomorrow) will
see that I have included a warning about genealogical bucket shops that
purport to sell you your "family coat of arms" and surname history. The
mag has also published an image of a totally bogus, alleged Stockdill
coat of arms I found on one of these sites. This tells me my surname
originated in Staffordshire, is related to Stockley and Stockleigh and other
such names and that I apparently descend from Norman barons!
Yesterday I fired off a few e-mails to several of these sites (all based in
the USA or Canada asking for their evidence and suggesting they
remove my supposed coat of arms from their list. To my surprise, I
actually received a reply from one of them today and it is so priceless I
simply have to share it wth you.
"Thank you for your email. Yes we have found information about the
Stockdill family in Yorkshire in the north of England and are a recorded
spelling of the Stockdale dating back to 16th century in that shire.
According to several reliable references in our library including "A
dictionary of Surnames" by Hanks and Hodges the common spellings for
your family name which comes from Yorkshire and Cumberland is
Stockdill, Stockdale, Stogdale. Other references add the spellings of
Stokedill, Stottdale, Stokedale, Stoggall, and Stogdill. In our experience
most families have at least 15 different spellings for their family name. If
you would like the family history and coat of arms just place an order. If
you order by Friday we will be able to send your family gifts by Christmas.
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com/LastChance.html
"For you information: The College of Arms, are a distinguished, very
worthy research group who were chartered in 1555 by King Philip of
Spain. They are based in England. They act as a primary registry
resource for English "Personal" Titles and Coat of Arms. They register
"personal" coat of arms - this is a more modern idea. Almost all "Family"
Coat of Arms date well before their charter date of 1555, sometimes
before the Norman Conquest in 1066. So the College of Arms may not
be your best research resource for "family" history or coat of arms
research. Note: As you family is from the far north Yorkshire and
Cumberland, the Lord Lyon may be just as appropriate for "personal"
coat of arms searches - borders have changed over the centuries.
"Our research deadline for Christmas delivery is this Friday. So
order now if you'd like the history and coat of arms for Stockdill. Our
reputation for accuracy and authenticity over the last 35 years is second
to none. All family histories carry a 100% guarantee of accuracy and
authenticity. Have a great week. Best of Luck
Elsabeth
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com
the Traceit.com Research Center Site.
COMMENTS:
1) I will allow them they have more or less got the origins of my surname
correct, though clearly all they've done is look it up in a well-known
surname dictionary which is accessible anywhere. The name Stockdale,
in fact, is recorded at least 2 centuries earlier than the 16th in
Cumberland.
2) They tell me the College of Arms was chartered in 1555 by King Philip
of Spain! Actually, it was established by Richard III in 1483 or 84.
3) They say "Almost all family coats of arms date from well before 1555,
sometimes before the Norman Conquest". Now, where do they get this
rubbish from, I wonder? Yes, there were heraldic devices before the
College was founded (the earliest known is 1136-8 in the reign of King
Stephen) but certainly not before the Conquest.
4) They appear to be suggesting that Yorkshire and Cumberland were
once in Scotland and I should contact the Lord Lyon for a search for my
coat of arms.
Needless to say, I have e-mailed them back informing them what
charlatans they are. I don't expect they'll take any notice, though.
However, perhaps for you newcomers who may be still a little gullible,
can I just say this: HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OR
ANY OTHERS LIKE THEM! If you just want something pretty to hang on
your wall, OK, but don't imagine it's your family surname history or your
personal coat of arms. Arms are granted to one individual only and
normally to his heirs in the direct male line under strict rules. Just
because there may be a genuine coat of arms for someone of your
surname, it doesn't mean you are entitled to use it.
--
Roy Stockdill
Guild of One-Name Studies: http://www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE
-
Frogwatch
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu
Indeed!
Hilarious!
And Good Advice.
DSH
---------------------------------------------------
Those of you who get to read my 7-page cover feature on Surnames in
the December issue of YOUR FAMILY TREE (officially out tomorrow) will
see that I have included a warning about genealogical bucket shops that
purport to sell you your "family coat of arms" and surname history. The
mag has also published an image of a totally bogus, alleged Stockdill
coat of arms I found on one of these sites. This tells me my surname
originated in Staffordshire, is related to Stockley and Stockleigh and other
such names and that I apparently descend from Norman barons!
Yesterday I fired off a few e-mails to several of these sites (all based in
the USA or Canada asking for their evidence and suggesting they
remove my supposed coat of arms from their list. To my surprise, I
actually received a reply from one of them today and it is so priceless I
simply have to share it wth you.
"Thank you for your email. Yes we have found information about the
Stockdill family in Yorkshire in the north of England and are a recorded
spelling of the Stockdale dating back to 16th century in that shire.
According to several reliable references in our library including "A
dictionary of Surnames" by Hanks and Hodges the common spellings for
your family name which comes from Yorkshire and Cumberland is
Stockdill, Stockdale, Stogdale. Other references add the spellings of
Stokedill, Stottdale, Stokedale, Stoggall, and Stogdill. In our experience
most families have at least 15 different spellings for their family name. If
you would like the family history and coat of arms just place an order. If
you order by Friday we will be able to send your family gifts by Christmas.
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com/LastChance.html
"For you information: The College of Arms, are a distinguished, very
worthy research group who were chartered in 1555 by King Philip of
Spain. They are based in England. They act as a primary registry
resource for English "Personal" Titles and Coat of Arms. They register
"personal" coat of arms - this is a more modern idea. Almost all "Family"
Coat of Arms date well before their charter date of 1555, sometimes
before the Norman Conquest in 1066. So the College of Arms may not
be your best research resource for "family" history or coat of arms
research. Note: As you family is from the far north Yorkshire and
Cumberland, the Lord Lyon may be just as appropriate for "personal"
coat of arms searches - borders have changed over the centuries.
"Our research deadline for Christmas delivery is this Friday. So
order now if you'd like the history and coat of arms for Stockdill. Our
reputation for accuracy and authenticity over the last 35 years is second
to none. All family histories carry a 100% guarantee of accuracy and
authenticity. Have a great week. Best of Luck
Elsabeth
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com
the Traceit.com Research Center Site.
COMMENTS:
1) I will allow them they have more or less got the origins of my surname
correct, though clearly all they've done is look it up in a well-known
surname dictionary which is accessible anywhere. The name Stockdale,
in fact, is recorded at least 2 centuries earlier than the 16th in
Cumberland.
2) They tell me the College of Arms was chartered in 1555 by King Philip
of Spain! Actually, it was established by Richard III in 1483 or 84.
3) They say "Almost all family coats of arms date from well before 1555,
sometimes before the Norman Conquest". Now, where do they get this
rubbish from, I wonder? Yes, there were heraldic devices before the
College was founded (the earliest known is 1136-8 in the reign of King
Stephen) but certainly not before the Conquest.
4) They appear to be suggesting that Yorkshire and Cumberland were
once in Scotland and I should contact the Lord Lyon for a search for my
coat of arms.
Needless to say, I have e-mailed them back informing them what
charlatans they are. I don't expect they'll take any notice, though.
However, perhaps for you newcomers who may be still a little gullible,
can I just say this: HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OR
ANY OTHERS LIKE THEM! If you just want something pretty to hang on
your wall, OK, but don't imagine it's your family surname history or your
personal coat of arms. Arms are granted to one individual only and
normally to his heirs in the direct male line under strict rules. Just
because there may be a genuine coat of arms for someone of your
surname, it doesn't mean you are entitled to use it.
--
Roy Stockdill
Guild of One-Name Studies: http://www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu
-
Deirdre Sholto Douglas
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Frogwatch wrote:
And in three weeks it's going to be a kudzu covered
possum cuddling a kudzu covered bottle...
Deirdre
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu
And in three weeks it's going to be a kudzu covered
possum cuddling a kudzu covered bottle...
Deirdre
-
D. Spencer Hines
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
<G>
DSH
"Frogwatch" <dbohara@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1164143641.965547.305360@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
DSH
"Frogwatch" <dbohara@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1164143641.965547.305360@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Indeed!
Hilarious!
And Good Advice.
DSH
---------------------------------------------------
Those of you who get to read my 7-page cover feature on Surnames in
the December issue of YOUR FAMILY TREE (officially out tomorrow) will
see that I have included a warning about genealogical bucket shops that
purport to sell you your "family coat of arms" and surname history. The
mag has also published an image of a totally bogus, alleged Stockdill
coat of arms I found on one of these sites. This tells me my surname
originated in Staffordshire, is related to Stockley and Stockleigh and
other
such names and that I apparently descend from Norman barons!
Yesterday I fired off a few e-mails to several of these sites (all based
in
the USA or Canada asking for their evidence and suggesting they
remove my supposed coat of arms from their list. To my surprise, I
actually received a reply from one of them today and it is so priceless I
simply have to share it wth you.
"Thank you for your email. Yes we have found information about the
Stockdill family in Yorkshire in the north of England and are a recorded
spelling of the Stockdale dating back to 16th century in that shire.
According to several reliable references in our library including "A
dictionary of Surnames" by Hanks and Hodges the common spellings for
your family name which comes from Yorkshire and Cumberland is
Stockdill, Stockdale, Stogdale. Other references add the spellings of
Stokedill, Stottdale, Stokedale, Stoggall, and Stogdill. In our
experience
most families have at least 15 different spellings for their family name.
If
you would like the family history and coat of arms just place an order.
If
you order by Friday we will be able to send your family gifts by
Christmas.
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com/LastChance.html
"For you information: The College of Arms, are a distinguished, very
worthy research group who were chartered in 1555 by King Philip of
Spain. They are based in England. They act as a primary registry
resource for English "Personal" Titles and Coat of Arms. They register
"personal" coat of arms - this is a more modern idea. Almost all "Family"
Coat of Arms date well before their charter date of 1555, sometimes
before the Norman Conquest in 1066. So the College of Arms may not
be your best research resource for "family" history or coat of arms
research. Note: As you family is from the far north Yorkshire and
Cumberland, the Lord Lyon may be just as appropriate for "personal"
coat of arms searches - borders have changed over the centuries.
"Our research deadline for Christmas delivery is this Friday. So
order now if you'd like the history and coat of arms for Stockdill. Our
reputation for accuracy and authenticity over the last 35 years is second
to none. All family histories carry a 100% guarantee of accuracy and
authenticity. Have a great week. Best of Luck
Elsabeth
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com
the Traceit.com Research Center Site.
COMMENTS:
1) I will allow them they have more or less got the origins of my surname
correct, though clearly all they've done is look it up in a well-known
surname dictionary which is accessible anywhere. The name Stockdale,
in fact, is recorded at least 2 centuries earlier than the 16th in
Cumberland.
2) They tell me the College of Arms was chartered in 1555 by King Philip
of Spain! Actually, it was established by Richard III in 1483 or 84.
3) They say "Almost all family coats of arms date from well before 1555,
sometimes before the Norman Conquest". Now, where do they get this
rubbish from, I wonder? Yes, there were heraldic devices before the
College was founded (the earliest known is 1136-8 in the reign of King
Stephen) but certainly not before the Conquest.
4) They appear to be suggesting that Yorkshire and Cumberland were
once in Scotland and I should contact the Lord Lyon for a search for my
coat of arms.
Needless to say, I have e-mailed them back informing them what
charlatans they are. I don't expect they'll take any notice, though.
However, perhaps for you newcomers who may be still a little gullible,
can I just say this: HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OR
ANY OTHERS LIKE THEM! If you just want something pretty to hang on
your wall, OK, but don't imagine it's your family surname history or your
personal coat of arms. Arms are granted to one individual only and
normally to his heirs in the direct male line under strict rules. Just
because there may be a genuine coat of arms for someone of your
surname, it doesn't mean you are entitled to use it.
--
Roy Stockdill
Guild of One-Name Studies: http://www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
-
Frogwatch
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
G
DSH
"Frogwatch" <dbohara@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1164143641.965547.305360@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Indeed!
Hilarious!
And Good Advice.
DSH
---------------------------------------------------
Those of you who get to read my 7-page cover feature on Surnames in
the December issue of YOUR FAMILY TREE (officially out tomorrow) will
see that I have included a warning about genealogical bucket shops that
purport to sell you your "family coat of arms" and surname history. The
mag has also published an image of a totally bogus, alleged Stockdill
coat of arms I found on one of these sites. This tells me my surname
originated in Staffordshire, is related to Stockley and Stockleigh and
other
such names and that I apparently descend from Norman barons!
Yesterday I fired off a few e-mails to several of these sites (all based
in
the USA or Canada asking for their evidence and suggesting they
remove my supposed coat of arms from their list. To my surprise, I
actually received a reply from one of them today and it is so priceless I
simply have to share it wth you.
"Thank you for your email. Yes we have found information about the
Stockdill family in Yorkshire in the north of England and are a recorded
spelling of the Stockdale dating back to 16th century in that shire.
According to several reliable references in our library including "A
dictionary of Surnames" by Hanks and Hodges the common spellings for
your family name which comes from Yorkshire and Cumberland is
Stockdill, Stockdale, Stogdale. Other references add the spellings of
Stokedill, Stottdale, Stokedale, Stoggall, and Stogdill. In our
experience
most families have at least 15 different spellings for their family name.
If
you would like the family history and coat of arms just place an order.
If
you order by Friday we will be able to send your family gifts by
Christmas.
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com/LastChance.html
"For you information: The College of Arms, are a distinguished, very
worthy research group who were chartered in 1555 by King Philip of
Spain. They are based in England. They act as a primary registry
resource for English "Personal" Titles and Coat of Arms. They register
"personal" coat of arms - this is a more modern idea. Almost all "Family"
Coat of Arms date well before their charter date of 1555, sometimes
before the Norman Conquest in 1066. So the College of Arms may not
be your best research resource for "family" history or coat of arms
research. Note: As you family is from the far north Yorkshire and
Cumberland, the Lord Lyon may be just as appropriate for "personal"
coat of arms searches - borders have changed over the centuries.
"Our research deadline for Christmas delivery is this Friday. So
order now if you'd like the history and coat of arms for Stockdill. Our
reputation for accuracy and authenticity over the last 35 years is second
to none. All family histories carry a 100% guarantee of accuracy and
authenticity. Have a great week. Best of Luck
Elsabeth
http://www.SurnamesOnline.com
the Traceit.com Research Center Site.
COMMENTS:
1) I will allow them they have more or less got the origins of my surname
correct, though clearly all they've done is look it up in a well-known
surname dictionary which is accessible anywhere. The name Stockdale,
in fact, is recorded at least 2 centuries earlier than the 16th in
Cumberland.
2) They tell me the College of Arms was chartered in 1555 by King Philip
of Spain! Actually, it was established by Richard III in 1483 or 84.
3) They say "Almost all family coats of arms date from well before 1555,
sometimes before the Norman Conquest". Now, where do they get this
rubbish from, I wonder? Yes, there were heraldic devices before the
College was founded (the earliest known is 1136-8 in the reign of King
Stephen) but certainly not before the Conquest.
4) They appear to be suggesting that Yorkshire and Cumberland were
once in Scotland and I should contact the Lord Lyon for a search for my
coat of arms.
Needless to say, I have e-mailed them back informing them what
charlatans they are. I don't expect they'll take any notice, though.
However, perhaps for you newcomers who may be still a little gullible,
can I just say this: HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OR
ANY OTHERS LIKE THEM! If you just want something pretty to hang on
your wall, OK, but don't imagine it's your family surname history or your
personal coat of arms. Arms are granted to one individual only and
normally to his heirs in the direct male line under strict rules. Just
because there may be a genuine coat of arms for someone of your
surname, it doesn't mean you are entitled to use it.
--
Roy Stockdill
Guild of One-Name Studies: http://www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
-
Val Adams
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
-
Turenne
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Val Adams wrote:
What's kudzu?
Richard Lichten
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
Richard Lichten
-
Joe Makowiec
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
On 22 Nov 2006 in soc.culture.scottish, Turenne wrote:
A vine in the pea family, native to Japan; in the SE United States and
NE Australia, it's invasive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu
--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear
bottle rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A vine in the pea family, native to Japan; in the SE United States and
NE Australia, it's invasive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu
--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
-
the_verminator@comcast.ne
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Joe Makowiec wrote:
Invasive doesn't begin to tell the story !
Planting instructions are :
1)Don't !
(but if you must)
2) place on asphalt, cover with cement, run for you life!
On 22 Nov 2006 in soc.culture.scottish, Turenne wrote:
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear
bottle rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A vine in the pea family, native to Japan; in the SE United States and
NE Australia, it's invasive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu
Invasive doesn't begin to tell the story !
Planting instructions are :
1)Don't !
(but if you must)
2) place on asphalt, cover with cement, run for you life!
-
Josiah Jenkins
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
On 22 Nov 2006 03:24:54 -0800, I read these words from "Turenne"
<richard.lichten1@virgin.net> :
A toy wind instrument that has a membrane that makes
a sound when you hum into the mouthpiece.
-- jjj
<richard.lichten1@virgin.net> :
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A toy wind instrument that has a membrane that makes
a sound when you hum into the mouthpiece.
-- jjj
Richard Lichten
-
a.spencer3
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:2vq8m29tv9eklem5js9c77rkupmpsqcda6@4ax.com...
A kudu with a lizp.
Surreyman
news:2vq8m29tv9eklem5js9c77rkupmpsqcda6@4ax.com...
On 22 Nov 2006 03:24:54 -0800, I read these words from "Turenne"
richard.lichten1@virgin.net> :
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A toy wind instrument that has a membrane that makes
a sound when you hum into the mouthpiece.
A kudu with a lizp.
Surreyman
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Frogwatch
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
a.spencer3 wrote:
The Verminators "Planting Instructions" just about covers the topic.
Ii is a viine native to China brought to the SE US for erosion control.
It can grow at a prodigious rate of several ft/day. It will cover
anything if not stopped and is very difficult to kill. It is common to
see hundreds of acres covered with a deep layer of the stuff with no
other plant life.
As a radical "Southern Nationalist", I am developing the ultimate
terror weapon combining kudzu and hydrilla (milfoil) so it will cover
land and water.
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On 22 Nov 2006 03:24:54 -0800, I read these words from "Turenne"
richard.lichten1@virgin.net> :
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear bottle
rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A toy wind instrument that has a membrane that makes
a sound when you hum into the mouthpiece.
A kudu with a lizp.
Surreyman
The Verminators "Planting Instructions" just about covers the topic.
Ii is a viine native to China brought to the SE US for erosion control.
It can grow at a prodigious rate of several ft/day. It will cover
anything if not stopped and is very difficult to kill. It is common to
see hundreds of acres covered with a deep layer of the stuff with no
other plant life.
As a radical "Southern Nationalist", I am developing the ultimate
terror weapon combining kudzu and hydrilla (milfoil) so it will cover
land and water.
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Krztalizer
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Folks that know me know that I love studying history, so periodically,
someone thinks its an appropriate gift to give me either a "coat of
arms" or a goblet, something marked with some variation on my family's
'crest'. Its always humorous to see its never the same one! LOL I
have three different crests at the moment, and I have no reason to
believe any of them are correct. With a German surname that translates
to "average guy", the chances we ever had a crest are on a level with
Rush Limbaugh's inate credibility...
v/r Gordon
someone thinks its an appropriate gift to give me either a "coat of
arms" or a goblet, something marked with some variation on my family's
'crest'. Its always humorous to see its never the same one! LOL I
have three different crests at the moment, and I have no reason to
believe any of them are correct. With a German surname that translates
to "average guy", the chances we ever had a crest are on a level with
Rush Limbaugh's inate credibility...
v/r Gordon
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Frogwatch
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
Krztalizer wrote:
Very few American familes are descended from anybody who would have a
"coat of arms"..Most of our ancestors were either herded onto ships at
gunpoint (mine were) or were starved till they thought a 2 month ship
voyage with nothing waiting at the far end sounded better than staying
home. Basically, us Americans are descended from the dregs of Europe
and we are better for it. You take all the people who do not get
along with authority in a society and ship em off to the new world, let
em intermarry for a hundred years and you get modern Americans. The
differences tween Americans and modern Europeans is not just geography
or culture but is also the result of genetics; those who were
genetically predisposed to be independent had children who also were
while the conservative stay-at-home-get-along- with-authority types
produced modern European society.
The rich and the royal had coats of arms and they didnt often
emmigrate. Gawd I'm happy to be a mongrel.
Folks that know me know that I love studying history, so periodically,
someone thinks its an appropriate gift to give me either a "coat of
arms" or a goblet, something marked with some variation on my family's
'crest'. Its always humorous to see its never the same one! LOL I
have three different crests at the moment, and I have no reason to
believe any of them are correct. With a German surname that translates
to "average guy", the chances we ever had a crest are on a level with
Rush Limbaugh's inate credibility...
v/r Gordon
Very few American familes are descended from anybody who would have a
"coat of arms"..Most of our ancestors were either herded onto ships at
gunpoint (mine were) or were starved till they thought a 2 month ship
voyage with nothing waiting at the far end sounded better than staying
home. Basically, us Americans are descended from the dregs of Europe
and we are better for it. You take all the people who do not get
along with authority in a society and ship em off to the new world, let
em intermarry for a hundred years and you get modern Americans. The
differences tween Americans and modern Europeans is not just geography
or culture but is also the result of genetics; those who were
genetically predisposed to be independent had children who also were
while the conservative stay-at-home-get-along- with-authority types
produced modern European society.
The rich and the royal had coats of arms and they didnt often
emmigrate. Gawd I'm happy to be a mongrel.
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The Highlander
Re: Bogus, Fraudulent Coats Of Arms
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:46:17 GMT, Joe Makowiec
<makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Big problem on the banks of the Tennessee, downriver from Moccasin
Bend, Chattanooga when I was there. Grows over everything - trees,
buildings, like a green shroud.
The Highlander
Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.
<makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 in soc.culture.scottish, Turenne wrote:
Val Adams wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
My family coat of arms features a drunk possum cuddlin a bear
bottle rampant on a field of kudzu.
make that a "beer" bottle, not "bear" bottle (hic)
Just in time, Mark was about to have a hissy-fit...
What's kudzu?
A vine in the pea family, native to Japan; in the SE United States and
NE Australia, it's invasive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu
Big problem on the banks of the Tennessee, downriver from Moccasin
Bend, Chattanooga when I was there. Grows over everything - trees,
buildings, like a green shroud.
The Highlander
Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.