Bartrum's Welsh works to be online in three years

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Bartrum's Welsh works to be online in three years

Legg inn av steven perkins » 09 nov 2006 05:38:05

*Website could help you trace your ancestry*

A WEBSITE is set to allow keen genealogists to find out whether they are
related to the ancient princes of Wales.

The site is being created by an academic at the University of Wales,
Aberystwyth, based on the work of an Englishman who compiled a massive
collection of work on Welsh ancestry.

It will make the task of proving a connection with historical figures
such as Hywel Dda, Llywelyn the Great or Owain Glyndr much easier.

The university will create an electronic database of Welsh genealogy
between 300 and 1500AD thanks to a grant of £300,000 from the Arts and
Humanities Research Council.

It is based on the work of Dr PC Bartrum, a native of Hampstead, London,
who has no links with Wales, and who worked as meteorologist until his
retirement in 1955.

But he has collected information about Welsh ancestry from early works
such as Brut y Tywysogion, a manuscript indexed Harley 3859 in the
British Library which dates from around 1100, and other manuscripts
largely from the 15th century onwards, compiled by heraldic bards, poets
who were experts in the ancestral history of noble families.

One such man was Gutun Owain (1450-98), who in 1491 was commissioned to
trace the ancestry of Owain Tudur of Penmynydd Anglesey, Henry VII's
grandfather.

<snip>

Full article at:

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news ... ne=website
-could-help-you--trace-your-ancestry-back-to-the-great-welsh-princes&method=
full&objectid=18030664&siteid=50082-name_page.html



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Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Bartrum's Welsh works to be online in three years

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 09 nov 2006 13:41:58

In message of 9 Nov, "steven perkins" <scperkins@gmail.com> wrote:

*Website could help you trace your ancestry*

A WEBSITE is set to allow keen genealogists to find out whether they are
related to the ancient princes of Wales.

The site is being created by an academic at the University of Wales,
Aberystwyth, based on the work of an Englishman who compiled a massive
collection of work on Welsh ancestry.

It will make the task of proving a connection with historical figures
such as Hywel Dda, Llywelyn the Great or Owain Glyndr much easier.

The university will create an electronic database of Welsh genealogy
between 300 and 1500AD thanks to a grant of £300,000 from the Arts and
Humanities Research Council.

It is based on the work of Dr PC Bartrum, a native of Hampstead, London,
who has no links with Wales, and who worked as meteorologist until his
retirement in 1955.

But he has collected information about Welsh ancestry from early works
such as Brut y Tywysogion, a manuscript indexed Harley 3859 in the
British Library which dates from around 1100, and other manuscripts
largely from the 15th century onwards, compiled by heraldic bards, poets
who were experts in the ancestral history of noble families.

One such man was Gutun Owain (1450-98), who in 1491 was commissioned to
trace the ancestry of Owain Tudur of Penmynydd Anglesey, Henry VII's
grandfather.

snip

Full article at:

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news ... ne=website
-could-help-you--trace-your-ancestry-back-to-the-great-welsh-princes&method=
full&objectid=18030664&siteid=50082-name_page.html

I remember various people on this newsgroup insisting that Bartrum's
collections were not evidence from the times of the people concerned but
principally copies of much later documents. So how will this website
"allow keen genealogists to find out whether they are related to the
ancient princes of Wales"?

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