I picked up a copy of Glynne Jarratt's detailed biography of Bishop
Skirlaw whilst at Durham recently. Amongst other details, it includes
a full translation of his will and its various codicils.
I am happy to undertake look-ups if anyone has an interest.
MA-R
The Life of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham +1405
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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John P. Ravilious
Re: The Life of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham +1405
Tuesday, 31 October, 2006
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
Cheers,
John
record dated 21 Dec 1379:
' Grant and quitclaim made before the Corporation of the city of
York, by Peter, son and heir of Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington, to
William de Bowes, of his rights on the manor of Streatlam and Stainton.
' [Seals missing.] - A2A, Manchester University, John Rylands Library:
Phillips Charters - STAINTON-WITH-STREATLAM (Co. Durham), P
from the account roll of the chantry of Bishop Walter
Skirlaw at Durham, dated between 1 Nov 1402 and 1 Nov 1403:
' Recept. Et de 40s. 4d. rec. de terris et tenementis in Wolueston de
terminis Martini et Pentecostes infra hunc compotum. Et de 50s. rec.
per manus Petri del Hay apud Aukland. Et de 10s. rec. de terra in
Monketon infra hunc compotum. ' [Surtees Soc. XCIX:lix]
' Peter del Hay', licence dated 5 Feb 1404/5:
' Licence to Thomas de Weston, clerk, and Peter del Hay to assign
premises in Houden, Askilby, Skelton, Thorp juxta Houden, Kilpyn,
Bolby, and Balkholm to the chapter of the collegiate church of Houden
for the support of a chaplain of the chantry of St. Cuthbert in the
said church founded by Walter, bishop of Durham. 5 Feb., 1405. Ibid.
[Pat.], 6 Hen. IV., p. 1 m. 34. ' [Page, Surtees Soc.XCI(I):559]
' Peter de la Hay, esquire ', executor [together with Thomas Weston and
Richard Holm, clerks] of the will of W., late bishop of Durham [grant
by the king's Council dated at Westminster, 30 June 1406 - CPR 7 Hen IV
(1405-1408), mem. 15, p. 205]
Commission of array to 'Peter de la Hay' [together with "Robert
Hilton,'chivaler', the elder, Peter de Bukton, 'chivaler', Alexander
Lounde, 'chivaler', John de Hothom, 'chivaler', John de Pygot,
'chivaler', Alexander de Metham, 'chivaler', Peter de la Hay, John de
Neusom, Thomas Seyntquyntyn, Thomas Raventhorpe and the sheriff] 'in
the East Riding in the county of York', for defence against the Scots,
granted at Westminster, 5 July 1410 [CPR 11 Hen. IV (1408-1413), mem.
24d, pp. 223-4]
' Commission de walliis et fossatis to Richard Norton, William
Lodyngton, Peter de la Hay, John Dronsfeld, John Elond, Robert Barneby,
William Shirewode, Thomas Saynpole and Nicholas de Brayton from Little
Smeton to the water of Donne in the county of York. ' granted at
Westminster, 10 July 1413 [CPR 1 Hen. V (1413-1416), mem. 44d., p. 110]
Commission of array for defence of the realm during the king's absence
in foreign parts to " Robert Hilton, 'chivaler', John de Aske, Peter de
la Hay, Robert Rustane and Guy de Roweclyf, in the East Riding in the
county of York.' dated at Westminster, 14 Oct 1417 [CPR Hen. V
(1416-1422), mem. 15d, p. 144]
Commission of array 'for defence of the realm while the king is in
foreign parts for the recovery of the inheritance and rights of the
crown' to " The earl of Northumberland, John Routhe, 'chivaler', John
de Ask, Richard de Hayton, Robert de Rudstan, Peter de la Hay, John
Ellerker and the sheriff, in the East Riding in the county of York. ' ,
dated at Westminster, 1 Apr 1418 [CPR 6 Hen. V (1416-1422), mem. 31d,
p. 196]
' A.D. 1423. - Peter de Hay of Spaldyng v. Richard, Prior of
Hautempryse [Haltemprice], 14 marks debt. ' [YAS XVII:83, No. 11, cites
De Banco, East. 1 Hen. VI. m. 142]
record of a power of attorney dated between Sept. 1423 and Sept. 1424
[2 Hen. VI]:
' Power of attorney by Peter de Hay, esq., John Carleton, clk. and
Thos. Sutton, to Robt. del Gare of York, and Wm. Wryght of Dyke to
deliver seisin of a messuage, 3 tofts and 26 acres in Neweland by
Estryngton to Ralf de Medilton, esq. of Lincolnshire and Hugh de
Medilton his son. Neweland, ____, 2 Hen. VI. [ B. 133.] ' [Ellis,
Yorkshire Deeds, p. 246]
escheator in the county of York, 1425 [CPR 5 Hen VI (1422-1429), mem.
14, p. 417]
founded a chantry at St. Mary's York, 16 Apr 1426:
' 9. The Chaunterye at th'aulter of Seynt Cuthbert in the said Church
of Yorke.
William Garnett, incumbent. The same is of the fundacion of
Walter Skyrlowe, sometyme busshope of Durham, and Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire, being bounde to saye masses and other suffrages for the
soules of the founders and all Crysten soules, and to be in his habyte
all principall and double feestes, Sondayes and nyne lessons, at
mattens, masse, evynsong, and processions to helpe the mayntenance of
the servyce of God, and to rede lessons, begynne antems and to execute
at the high aulter, as is appoynted to hym by th'officers in the quyer,
as apperyth by fundacion dated the xvjth daye of Aprill, the yere of
our Lord God MCCCCXXVJ.
The same chaunterye is wythyn the metropolitane church of York.
The necessitie thereof is to helpe in executyng divine servyce in the
same churche. And the fundacion is observyd and kept accordynglye.
Ther is no landes solde sithens the iiijth day of February anno regni
Regis Henrici viiij'vi., xxvij'mo. ' [Surtees Soc. XCI:189-190, no. 52]
will of Peter de la Hay, dated 8 Aug 1426 (proved 11 Apr 1431) [Test.
Ebor. II:11-12])
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
Cheers,
John
record dated 21 Dec 1379:
' Grant and quitclaim made before the Corporation of the city of
York, by Peter, son and heir of Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington, to
William de Bowes, of his rights on the manor of Streatlam and Stainton.
' [Seals missing.] - A2A, Manchester University, John Rylands Library:
Phillips Charters - STAINTON-WITH-STREATLAM (Co. Durham), P
from the account roll of the chantry of Bishop Walter
Skirlaw at Durham, dated between 1 Nov 1402 and 1 Nov 1403:
' Recept. Et de 40s. 4d. rec. de terris et tenementis in Wolueston de
terminis Martini et Pentecostes infra hunc compotum. Et de 50s. rec.
per manus Petri del Hay apud Aukland. Et de 10s. rec. de terra in
Monketon infra hunc compotum. ' [Surtees Soc. XCIX:lix]
' Peter del Hay', licence dated 5 Feb 1404/5:
' Licence to Thomas de Weston, clerk, and Peter del Hay to assign
premises in Houden, Askilby, Skelton, Thorp juxta Houden, Kilpyn,
Bolby, and Balkholm to the chapter of the collegiate church of Houden
for the support of a chaplain of the chantry of St. Cuthbert in the
said church founded by Walter, bishop of Durham. 5 Feb., 1405. Ibid.
[Pat.], 6 Hen. IV., p. 1 m. 34. ' [Page, Surtees Soc.XCI(I):559]
' Peter de la Hay, esquire ', executor [together with Thomas Weston and
Richard Holm, clerks] of the will of W., late bishop of Durham [grant
by the king's Council dated at Westminster, 30 June 1406 - CPR 7 Hen IV
(1405-1408), mem. 15, p. 205]
Commission of array to 'Peter de la Hay' [together with "Robert
Hilton,'chivaler', the elder, Peter de Bukton, 'chivaler', Alexander
Lounde, 'chivaler', John de Hothom, 'chivaler', John de Pygot,
'chivaler', Alexander de Metham, 'chivaler', Peter de la Hay, John de
Neusom, Thomas Seyntquyntyn, Thomas Raventhorpe and the sheriff] 'in
the East Riding in the county of York', for defence against the Scots,
granted at Westminster, 5 July 1410 [CPR 11 Hen. IV (1408-1413), mem.
24d, pp. 223-4]
' Commission de walliis et fossatis to Richard Norton, William
Lodyngton, Peter de la Hay, John Dronsfeld, John Elond, Robert Barneby,
William Shirewode, Thomas Saynpole and Nicholas de Brayton from Little
Smeton to the water of Donne in the county of York. ' granted at
Westminster, 10 July 1413 [CPR 1 Hen. V (1413-1416), mem. 44d., p. 110]
Commission of array for defence of the realm during the king's absence
in foreign parts to " Robert Hilton, 'chivaler', John de Aske, Peter de
la Hay, Robert Rustane and Guy de Roweclyf, in the East Riding in the
county of York.' dated at Westminster, 14 Oct 1417 [CPR Hen. V
(1416-1422), mem. 15d, p. 144]
Commission of array 'for defence of the realm while the king is in
foreign parts for the recovery of the inheritance and rights of the
crown' to " The earl of Northumberland, John Routhe, 'chivaler', John
de Ask, Richard de Hayton, Robert de Rudstan, Peter de la Hay, John
Ellerker and the sheriff, in the East Riding in the county of York. ' ,
dated at Westminster, 1 Apr 1418 [CPR 6 Hen. V (1416-1422), mem. 31d,
p. 196]
' A.D. 1423. - Peter de Hay of Spaldyng v. Richard, Prior of
Hautempryse [Haltemprice], 14 marks debt. ' [YAS XVII:83, No. 11, cites
De Banco, East. 1 Hen. VI. m. 142]
record of a power of attorney dated between Sept. 1423 and Sept. 1424
[2 Hen. VI]:
' Power of attorney by Peter de Hay, esq., John Carleton, clk. and
Thos. Sutton, to Robt. del Gare of York, and Wm. Wryght of Dyke to
deliver seisin of a messuage, 3 tofts and 26 acres in Neweland by
Estryngton to Ralf de Medilton, esq. of Lincolnshire and Hugh de
Medilton his son. Neweland, ____, 2 Hen. VI. [ B. 133.] ' [Ellis,
Yorkshire Deeds, p. 246]
escheator in the county of York, 1425 [CPR 5 Hen VI (1422-1429), mem.
14, p. 417]
founded a chantry at St. Mary's York, 16 Apr 1426:
' 9. The Chaunterye at th'aulter of Seynt Cuthbert in the said Church
of Yorke.
William Garnett, incumbent. The same is of the fundacion of
Walter Skyrlowe, sometyme busshope of Durham, and Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire, being bounde to saye masses and other suffrages for the
soules of the founders and all Crysten soules, and to be in his habyte
all principall and double feestes, Sondayes and nyne lessons, at
mattens, masse, evynsong, and processions to helpe the mayntenance of
the servyce of God, and to rede lessons, begynne antems and to execute
at the high aulter, as is appoynted to hym by th'officers in the quyer,
as apperyth by fundacion dated the xvjth daye of Aprill, the yere of
our Lord God MCCCCXXVJ.
The same chaunterye is wythyn the metropolitane church of York.
The necessitie thereof is to helpe in executyng divine servyce in the
same churche. And the fundacion is observyd and kept accordynglye.
Ther is no landes solde sithens the iiijth day of February anno regni
Regis Henrici viiij'vi., xxvij'mo. ' [Surtees Soc. XCI:189-190, no. 52]
will of Peter de la Hay, dated 8 Aug 1426 (proved 11 Apr 1431) [Test.
Ebor. II:11-12])
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
I picked up a copy of Glynne Jarratt's detailed biography of Bishop
Skirlaw whilst at Durham recently. Amongst other details, it includes
a full translation of his will and its various codicils.
I am happy to undertake look-ups if anyone has an interest.
MA-R
-
Gjest
Re: The Life of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham +1405
John P. Ravilious schrieb:
John
There are several references to the de la Hays in the Bishop's will and
codicils. However, no blood relationship is stated (or, so far as I
can
see, hinted at).
Peter seems to have been one of the bishop's right-hand men.
Elizabeth,
presumably his wife, is left a silver ewer and basin, and a silver pot
and
gilded-cup; "John, Thomas and Peter, son of Peter de la Hay, and
William
Bowes are each left a silver cup valued at 40s.
In the notes, the author says de la Hay as "the bihop's domicellum
[esquire]; of Spaldington, guardian of the heirs of Thomas Claxton,
steward
of the bishop's manor at Howden; became a knight with property at
Laytham
near Selby, E Yorks [Surtees (127), 122-4); his seal was an octagonal
signet, a scallop shell".
Not sure if this will help.
Regards, Michael
Tuesday, 31 October, 2006
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
John P. Ravilious schrieb:
Tuesday, 31 October, 2006
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
John
There are several references to the de la Hays in the Bishop's will and
codicils. However, no blood relationship is stated (or, so far as I
can
see, hinted at).
Peter seems to have been one of the bishop's right-hand men.
Elizabeth,
presumably his wife, is left a silver ewer and basin, and a silver pot
and
gilded-cup; "John, Thomas and Peter, son of Peter de la Hay, and
William
Bowes are each left a silver cup valued at 40s.
In the notes, the author says de la Hay as "the bihop's domicellum
[esquire]; of Spaldington, guardian of the heirs of Thomas Claxton,
steward
of the bishop's manor at Howden; became a knight with property at
Laytham
near Selby, E Yorks [Surtees (127), 122-4); his seal was an octagonal
signet, a scallop shell".
Not sure if this will help.
Regards, Michael
-
John P. Ravilious
Re: The Life of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham +1405
Dear Michael,
Thanks for that. For one thing (at least), the Latin text from
Testa. Ebor. I:313 is so inaccessible, the fact that John is named
ahead of Thomas and Peter is not discernable. It is also interesting
that William Bowes (younger, of Streatlam) is named after the de la Hay
children in the will: it would appear the assorted claimants to
Streatlam (Peter de la Hay had quitclaimed same to an older William
Bowes in 1379) had all maintained their connection to Bishop Skirlaw.
It is also interesting that Peter had achieved knighthood, which I had
not previously noted.
Peter de la Hay had two wives named Elizabeth: one died before
him, and he was survived by Elizabeth (Woodruff) (Cresacre) de la Hay,
mother by her 1st marriage of Percival Cresacre and others. It is
possible that the Elizabeth del Hay of Bp. Skirlaw's will was Peter's
daughter Elizabeth, who m. John Wortley of Wortley, and was the mother
of Sir Nicholas Wortley of Wortley, co. Yorks.
Many thanks for these added details.
Cheers,
John
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
Thanks for that. For one thing (at least), the Latin text from
Testa. Ebor. I:313 is so inaccessible, the fact that John is named
ahead of Thomas and Peter is not discernable. It is also interesting
that William Bowes (younger, of Streatlam) is named after the de la Hay
children in the will: it would appear the assorted claimants to
Streatlam (Peter de la Hay had quitclaimed same to an older William
Bowes in 1379) had all maintained their connection to Bishop Skirlaw.
It is also interesting that Peter had achieved knighthood, which I had
not previously noted.
Peter de la Hay had two wives named Elizabeth: one died before
him, and he was survived by Elizabeth (Woodruff) (Cresacre) de la Hay,
mother by her 1st marriage of Percival Cresacre and others. It is
possible that the Elizabeth del Hay of Bp. Skirlaw's will was Peter's
daughter Elizabeth, who m. John Wortley of Wortley, and was the mother
of Sir Nicholas Wortley of Wortley, co. Yorks.
Many thanks for these added details.
Cheers,
John
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
John P. Ravilious schrieb:
Tuesday, 31 October, 2006
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
John P. Ravilious schrieb:
Tuesday, 31 October, 2006
Dear Michael,
Thanks for your offer re: the will of Bishop Skirlaw. I'd like to
take you up on that.
I have a theory there's a relationship of some sort between the
Bishop and Peter de la Hay of Spaldington (see assorted
references/extracts below). Some printed sources refer to two
families, de la Hay of Spaldington and a collateral line in co. Durham,
but I am certain they are one and the same. 'Peter de la Haye of
Yorke, esquire' founded a chantry together with Bishop Skirlaw; he was
also (from another source) an executor of the bishop's will. Further,
Streatlam, co. Durham was claimed by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington.
The will of Bishop Skirlaw is in Testamenta Eboracensia, but the
portion viewable via Googlebooks is partial only (I:313-315 as I see
it). There are bequests to Elizabeth del Hay, and to ' Thoma et Petro
filiis Petri del Hay,... ', but I do not detect any mention of a
relationship (if there was one). If there are any relevant references
in the will to Peter de la Hay or his children (or siblings), either in
the text or notes, that would be of great interest. Peter's son Thomas
de la Hay of Spaldington is the ancestor of a rather large progeny,
incl. several SGM list members (royal and not).
John
There are several references to the de la Hays in the Bishop's will and
codicils. However, no blood relationship is stated (or, so far as I
can
see, hinted at).
Peter seems to have been one of the bishop's right-hand men.
Elizabeth,
presumably his wife, is left a silver ewer and basin, and a silver pot
and
gilded-cup; "John, Thomas and Peter, son of Peter de la Hay, and
William
Bowes are each left a silver cup valued at 40s.
In the notes, the author says de la Hay as "the bihop's domicellum
[esquire]; of Spaldington, guardian of the heirs of Thomas Claxton,
steward
of the bishop's manor at Howden; became a knight with property at
Laytham
near Selby, E Yorks [Surtees (127), 122-4); his seal was an octagonal
signet, a scallop shell".
Not sure if this will help.
Regards, Michael