Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
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Drew
Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Greetings to all! I haven't posted in a while, so hi to all old
friends. Question: does anyone know the ancestry of Robert Strange (of
Somerford Keynes co. Wilts and of Chesterton near Cirenchester co.
Gloucester, esq., d. 26 Dec. 1630)? He married Jane, daughter of Sir
Anthony Hungerford of that barony. One would think he was a man of some
importance or wealth, but I have been unable to uncover his ancestry. I
don't know if he is of a Strange or Le Strange or Straunge family, but
some people on the internet think he's a le Strange. I haven't seen
any documentation to support that, so I don't believe it.
There is a nice monument to him at the church where he is buried, but I
haven't seen it, and don't know what it says. Has anyone seen the
Church of All Saints in Somerford Keynes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerford_Keynes
He had descendents who married into the Jocelyn family, one eventually
named Sir Strange Jocelyn(!). Any help is appreciated!
Andrew Waller
http://www.jocelynwaller.info
friends. Question: does anyone know the ancestry of Robert Strange (of
Somerford Keynes co. Wilts and of Chesterton near Cirenchester co.
Gloucester, esq., d. 26 Dec. 1630)? He married Jane, daughter of Sir
Anthony Hungerford of that barony. One would think he was a man of some
importance or wealth, but I have been unable to uncover his ancestry. I
don't know if he is of a Strange or Le Strange or Straunge family, but
some people on the internet think he's a le Strange. I haven't seen
any documentation to support that, so I don't believe it.
There is a nice monument to him at the church where he is buried, but I
haven't seen it, and don't know what it says. Has anyone seen the
Church of All Saints in Somerford Keynes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerford_Keynes
He had descendents who married into the Jocelyn family, one eventually
named Sir Strange Jocelyn(!). Any help is appreciated!
Andrew Waller
http://www.jocelynwaller.info
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Gjest
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Drew schrieb:
Presumably its reference to his having died in 1654 is an error, or is
that a son? The following PROCAT reference suggests the latter:
Dame Margaret Hungerford (relict of Sir Edwd. Hungerford, K.B.), widow,
Sir Henry Roe, Knt., John Southbie, Giles Hungerford. v. Edmond
Prideaux (Attorney-General).: Estates of Robt. Straunge, of Somerford
Keynes (Wilts), deceased, (including the manor of Somerford Keynes and
the farme of Shornecott (Wilts), and the farm of Chesterton and
tenements in Cirencester (Gloucester); the last will and testament of
Robert; the wardship, &c. of his son Robert, &c., &c.: Wilts; Gloster E
134/1651-52/Hil11
A2A has details of his daughter Mary's marriage settlement with Samuel
Coxwell, 1615, but nothing else obviously helpful.
His will was proved PCC 26.4.1631, with sentence 31.7.1631 - have you
seen these in case they shed some light on his familial relationships?
Michael
Greetings to all! I haven't posted in a while, so hi to all old
friends. Question: does anyone know the ancestry of Robert Strange (of
Somerford Keynes co. Wilts and of Chesterton near Cirenchester co.
Gloucester, esq., d. 26 Dec. 1630)? He married Jane, daughter of Sir
Anthony Hungerford of that barony. One would think he was a man of some
importance or wealth, but I have been unable to uncover his ancestry. I
don't know if he is of a Strange or Le Strange or Straunge family, but
some people on the internet think he's a le Strange. I haven't seen
any documentation to support that, so I don't believe it.
There is a nice monument to him at the church where he is buried, but I
haven't seen it, and don't know what it says. Has anyone seen the
Church of All Saints in Somerford Keynes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerford_Keynes
Presumably its reference to his having died in 1654 is an error, or is
that a son? The following PROCAT reference suggests the latter:
Dame Margaret Hungerford (relict of Sir Edwd. Hungerford, K.B.), widow,
Sir Henry Roe, Knt., John Southbie, Giles Hungerford. v. Edmond
Prideaux (Attorney-General).: Estates of Robt. Straunge, of Somerford
Keynes (Wilts), deceased, (including the manor of Somerford Keynes and
the farme of Shornecott (Wilts), and the farm of Chesterton and
tenements in Cirencester (Gloucester); the last will and testament of
Robert; the wardship, &c. of his son Robert, &c., &c.: Wilts; Gloster E
134/1651-52/Hil11
A2A has details of his daughter Mary's marriage settlement with Samuel
Coxwell, 1615, but nothing else obviously helpful.
His will was proved PCC 26.4.1631, with sentence 31.7.1631 - have you
seen these in case they shed some light on his familial relationships?
Michael
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Gjest
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Drew schrieb:
PS I assume you have also seen this reference to the SoG holdings:
there must be a good chance that amongst the Chesterton wills there
will be something to tie Robert in:
http://www.yourtotalevent.com/people/Do ... ection.htm
Abstracts of Strange Wills
John Straunge of Chesterton, Glocs, gent, 1559 (PCC Mellershe 30)
Robert Straunge of Cisceter, Glos, esq., 1586/7 (PCC Rutland 5)
Thomas Straunge of Chesterton, Ciceter, Glos, gent, 1593/4(PCC Dixy 43)
Anthonie Straunge of Chesterton, Glos, gent, 1596 (PCC Drake 59)
Richard Strange of Donington, Glos, gent, 1608 (PCC Dorset 15)
Helene Strainge of Chesterton, Cirencester, Glos, widoow, 1609/10 (PCC
Wingfield 64)
John Straunge of Broade Blundesdon, Wilts, 1610 (PCC Wingfield 88)
Michaell Straunge of Somerford Keyns, Wilts, esq., 1613 (PCC Capell
106)
John Strange of Stanton Barnard, 1627 (PCC Barrington 49)
Anne Strange of Chesterton, Glos, widow, 1624 (PCC Ridley 70)
Robert Straunge of Somerford Keynes, Wilts, 1630 (PCC St. John 42)
Anthony Strange of Siston, Glos, yeoman, 1630 (PCC StJohn 70)
Strange of Cirencester and Somerford Keynes
Seen in the historic King's Head Hotel
In 1550 it was owned by a gentleman named Robert STRANGE who was a
clothier and High Bailiff of Cirencester in 1553. He was also thought
to be High Bailiff of Gloucester and he died in 1588. The King's Head
then passed, with twelve other properties, to his grandson Robert
STRANGE of Somerford Keynes who dies in 1654 and there is a large
marble monument in the village church. As he was unmarried his estates
were divided between his sisters. The youngest, Katherine was the wife
of Sir Robert Jocelyn of Sawbridgeworth and they had a son, Sir STRANGE
Jocelyn. A survey of the STRANGE estate in May 1655 reads: "Amos
Dauntsey: messuage, backsude and gardens in Cheping street called the
King's Head with glass. Waynescott and implements of household:
tavernes adjoining belonging to another messuge called Antilopp: rights
of way throu the antilopp; another messuage belonging to the property
of Cricklade Street"
Regarding the above Robert STRANGE, d. 1654; the Huntington Library has
a copy of "The efficiency of Gods grace in bringing gain-saying sinners
to Christ: a sermon preached at Summerford in Wiltshire, at the
funerall of that pious and worthy young gentleman, Robert STRANGE :
with a narrative of his short but wellspent life, by Simeon Ashe." In
the publication of his sermon, Mr. Ashe refers to the following family
relationships:
- Lady Margaret Hungerford, Aunt
- Robert Joselin, John Foyle, Richard Southbye, Esquires, and Brothers
in Law (husbands of sisters of Robert STRANGE)
In "Abstracts of Wiltshire Inquisitions post mortem, returned into the
Court of Chancery," published by the British Record Society, in the
first volume is an abstract for Robert Straunge, Esquire of Somerford
Keynes, d.26 Dec 1630, which refers to other properties in Wiltshire
and Gloucestershire, and includes the following family information:
Parents buried at Somerford Keynes
Wife: Jane, daughter of Sir Anthony Hungerford
Brothers: Anthony Straunge and Michael Straunge
Father: Michael Straunge
Sisters: Bridget Straunge, Coxwell
Daughters: Margaret, Ann, Katherine, Jane
Son and heir born 1 June 1631 (after Robert's death)
[NB It seems the 1615 settlement was for Robert's sister Mary, not
daughter - MAR]
Greetings to all! I haven't posted in a while, so hi to all old
friends. Question: does anyone know the ancestry of Robert Strange (of
Somerford Keynes co. Wilts and of Chesterton near Cirenchester
PS I assume you have also seen this reference to the SoG holdings:
there must be a good chance that amongst the Chesterton wills there
will be something to tie Robert in:
http://www.yourtotalevent.com/people/Do ... ection.htm
Abstracts of Strange Wills
John Straunge of Chesterton, Glocs, gent, 1559 (PCC Mellershe 30)
Robert Straunge of Cisceter, Glos, esq., 1586/7 (PCC Rutland 5)
Thomas Straunge of Chesterton, Ciceter, Glos, gent, 1593/4(PCC Dixy 43)
Anthonie Straunge of Chesterton, Glos, gent, 1596 (PCC Drake 59)
Richard Strange of Donington, Glos, gent, 1608 (PCC Dorset 15)
Helene Strainge of Chesterton, Cirencester, Glos, widoow, 1609/10 (PCC
Wingfield 64)
John Straunge of Broade Blundesdon, Wilts, 1610 (PCC Wingfield 88)
Michaell Straunge of Somerford Keyns, Wilts, esq., 1613 (PCC Capell
106)
John Strange of Stanton Barnard, 1627 (PCC Barrington 49)
Anne Strange of Chesterton, Glos, widow, 1624 (PCC Ridley 70)
Robert Straunge of Somerford Keynes, Wilts, 1630 (PCC St. John 42)
Anthony Strange of Siston, Glos, yeoman, 1630 (PCC StJohn 70)
Strange of Cirencester and Somerford Keynes
Seen in the historic King's Head Hotel
In 1550 it was owned by a gentleman named Robert STRANGE who was a
clothier and High Bailiff of Cirencester in 1553. He was also thought
to be High Bailiff of Gloucester and he died in 1588. The King's Head
then passed, with twelve other properties, to his grandson Robert
STRANGE of Somerford Keynes who dies in 1654 and there is a large
marble monument in the village church. As he was unmarried his estates
were divided between his sisters. The youngest, Katherine was the wife
of Sir Robert Jocelyn of Sawbridgeworth and they had a son, Sir STRANGE
Jocelyn. A survey of the STRANGE estate in May 1655 reads: "Amos
Dauntsey: messuage, backsude and gardens in Cheping street called the
King's Head with glass. Waynescott and implements of household:
tavernes adjoining belonging to another messuge called Antilopp: rights
of way throu the antilopp; another messuage belonging to the property
of Cricklade Street"
Regarding the above Robert STRANGE, d. 1654; the Huntington Library has
a copy of "The efficiency of Gods grace in bringing gain-saying sinners
to Christ: a sermon preached at Summerford in Wiltshire, at the
funerall of that pious and worthy young gentleman, Robert STRANGE :
with a narrative of his short but wellspent life, by Simeon Ashe." In
the publication of his sermon, Mr. Ashe refers to the following family
relationships:
- Lady Margaret Hungerford, Aunt
- Robert Joselin, John Foyle, Richard Southbye, Esquires, and Brothers
in Law (husbands of sisters of Robert STRANGE)
In "Abstracts of Wiltshire Inquisitions post mortem, returned into the
Court of Chancery," published by the British Record Society, in the
first volume is an abstract for Robert Straunge, Esquire of Somerford
Keynes, d.26 Dec 1630, which refers to other properties in Wiltshire
and Gloucestershire, and includes the following family information:
Parents buried at Somerford Keynes
Wife: Jane, daughter of Sir Anthony Hungerford
Brothers: Anthony Straunge and Michael Straunge
Father: Michael Straunge
Sisters: Bridget Straunge, Coxwell
Daughters: Margaret, Ann, Katherine, Jane
Son and heir born 1 June 1631 (after Robert's death)
[NB It seems the 1615 settlement was for Robert's sister Mary, not
daughter - MAR]
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Drew
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Thank you both for replying so thoughtfully. I have been looking
through some LDS microfilms of wills, but I don't think it will be
fruitful. Do you know a source for the wills mentioned below? I'm
afraid I don't understand the references given (e.g. PCC Mellershe 30).
Also, is the monument in the King's Head Hotel reliable?
Andrew
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
through some LDS microfilms of wills, but I don't think it will be
fruitful. Do you know a source for the wills mentioned below? I'm
afraid I don't understand the references given (e.g. PCC Mellershe 30).
Also, is the monument in the King's Head Hotel reliable?
Andrew
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
Drew schrieb:
Greetings to all! I haven't posted in a while, so hi to all old
friends. Question: does anyone know the ancestry of Robert Strange (of
Somerford Keynes co. Wilts and of Chesterton near Cirenchester
PS I assume you have also seen this reference to the SoG holdings:
there must be a good chance that amongst the Chesterton wills there
will be something to tie Robert in:
http://www.yourtotalevent.com/people/Do ... ection.htm
Abstracts of Strange Wills
John Straunge of Chesterton, Glocs, gent, 1559 (PCC Mellershe 30)
Robert Straunge of Cisceter, Glos, esq., 1586/7 (PCC Rutland 5)
Thomas Straunge of Chesterton, Ciceter, Glos, gent, 1593/4(PCC Dixy 43)
Anthonie Straunge of Chesterton, Glos, gent, 1596 (PCC Drake 59)
Richard Strange of Donington, Glos, gent, 1608 (PCC Dorset 15)
Helene Strainge of Chesterton, Cirencester, Glos, widoow, 1609/10 (PCC
Wingfield 64)
John Straunge of Broade Blundesdon, Wilts, 1610 (PCC Wingfield 88)
Michaell Straunge of Somerford Keyns, Wilts, esq., 1613 (PCC Capell
106)
John Strange of Stanton Barnard, 1627 (PCC Barrington 49)
Anne Strange of Chesterton, Glos, widow, 1624 (PCC Ridley 70)
Robert Straunge of Somerford Keynes, Wilts, 1630 (PCC St. John 42)
Anthony Strange of Siston, Glos, yeoman, 1630 (PCC StJohn 70)
Strange of Cirencester and Somerford Keynes
Seen in the historic King's Head Hotel
In 1550 it was owned by a gentleman named Robert STRANGE who was a
clothier and High Bailiff of Cirencester in 1553. He was also thought
to be High Bailiff of Gloucester and he died in 1588. The King's Head
then passed, with twelve other properties, to his grandson Robert
STRANGE of Somerford Keynes who dies in 1654 and there is a large
marble monument in the village church. As he was unmarried his estates
were divided between his sisters. The youngest, Katherine was the wife
of Sir Robert Jocelyn of Sawbridgeworth and they had a son, Sir STRANGE
Jocelyn. A survey of the STRANGE estate in May 1655 reads: "Amos
Dauntsey: messuage, backsude and gardens in Cheping street called the
King's Head with glass. Waynescott and implements of household:
tavernes adjoining belonging to another messuge called Antilopp: rights
of way throu the antilopp; another messuage belonging to the property
of Cricklade Street"
Regarding the above Robert STRANGE, d. 1654; the Huntington Library has
a copy of "The efficiency of Gods grace in bringing gain-saying sinners
to Christ: a sermon preached at Summerford in Wiltshire, at the
funerall of that pious and worthy young gentleman, Robert STRANGE :
with a narrative of his short but wellspent life, by Simeon Ashe." In
the publication of his sermon, Mr. Ashe refers to the following family
relationships:
- Lady Margaret Hungerford, Aunt
- Robert Joselin, John Foyle, Richard Southbye, Esquires, and Brothers
in Law (husbands of sisters of Robert STRANGE)
In "Abstracts of Wiltshire Inquisitions post mortem, returned into the
Court of Chancery," published by the British Record Society, in the
first volume is an abstract for Robert Straunge, Esquire of Somerford
Keynes, d.26 Dec 1630, which refers to other properties in Wiltshire
and Gloucestershire, and includes the following family information:
Parents buried at Somerford Keynes
Wife: Jane, daughter of Sir Anthony Hungerford
Brothers: Anthony Straunge and Michael Straunge
Father: Michael Straunge
Sisters: Bridget Straunge, Coxwell
Daughters: Margaret, Ann, Katherine, Jane
Son and heir born 1 June 1631 (after Robert's death)
[NB It seems the 1615 settlement was for Robert's sister Mary, not
daughter - MAR]
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Gjest
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Drew wrote:
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
I have no idea, I'm afraid.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
Thank you both for replying so thoughtfully. I have been looking
through some LDS microfilms of wills, but I don't think it will be
fruitful. Do you know a source for the wills mentioned below? I'm
afraid I don't understand the references given (e.g. PCC Mellershe 30).
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
Also, is the monument in the King's Head Hotel reliable?
I have no idea, I'm afraid.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
-
Drew
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
Drew wrote:
Thank you both for replying so thoughtfully. I have been looking
through some LDS microfilms of wills, but I don't think it will be
fruitful. Do you know a source for the wills mentioned below? I'm
afraid I don't understand the references given (e.g. PCC Mellershe 30).
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
Also, is the monument in the King's Head Hotel reliable?
I have no idea, I'm afraid.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
-
Drew
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
I don't think my other reply came through. To repeat:
The Wilts visitation mentions the Strange family not at all, but only
Robert as part of the Hungerford pedigree. I don't recall the Gloucs,
but I'm sure I read through it a few times. I have both in my local
university library as part of the Harleian society publications. I will
look intothe PCC wills--I just sent for the 2 likely candidates, we'll
see how tehy turn out.
Surely someone has seen the church in Somerford Keynes!? Perhaps
Michael W. Cook? (of medieval castles, abbeys, etc.) The monument in
Cirencester sounds interesting as well.
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
The Wilts visitation mentions the Strange family not at all, but only
Robert as part of the Hungerford pedigree. I don't recall the Gloucs,
but I'm sure I read through it a few times. I have both in my local
university library as part of the Harleian society publications. I will
look intothe PCC wills--I just sent for the 2 likely candidates, we'll
see how tehy turn out.
Surely someone has seen the church in Somerford Keynes!? Perhaps
Michael W. Cook? (of medieval castles, abbeys, etc.) The monument in
Cirencester sounds interesting as well.
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
-
Drew
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
So I looked at the wills for Anthony and John Strange from Gloucs., and
found no mention of the Stranges (Straunges) listed in the PCC will
index otherwise, or the names mentioned from the King's Head Hotel. So
what we have, with no other substantiation, but probably correct, is:
Robert Strange, clothier and bailiff of Cirencester in 1553, d. 1588
Michael Straunge (?-?), buried at Somerford Keynes
Robert Straunge, d. 1630, married Jane Hungerford
son Robert Strange, 1631-1654 and daughter Jane Strange who married
Robert Jocelyn, and 2 other heirs.
The parentage of 1st Robert Strange would be unknown. I think it's
typical for English commoner genealogies to peter out in the early
1500s, but this is at least something.
Unfortunately this Strange family might not be armigerous. There is a
book about the Church of All Saints I found from the reference in the
Wikipedia, but it's not in any libraries nearby. I will try to find
this, and will post something later if I do.
Thanks Michael for your input!
Andrew Waller
http://www.jocelynwaller.info
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote: (excerpted)
found no mention of the Stranges (Straunges) listed in the PCC will
index otherwise, or the names mentioned from the King's Head Hotel. So
what we have, with no other substantiation, but probably correct, is:
Robert Strange, clothier and bailiff of Cirencester in 1553, d. 1588
Michael Straunge (?-?), buried at Somerford Keynes
Robert Straunge, d. 1630, married Jane Hungerford
son Robert Strange, 1631-1654 and daughter Jane Strange who married
Robert Jocelyn, and 2 other heirs.
The parentage of 1st Robert Strange would be unknown. I think it's
typical for English commoner genealogies to peter out in the early
1500s, but this is at least something.
Unfortunately this Strange family might not be armigerous. There is a
book about the Church of All Saints I found from the reference in the
Wikipedia, but it's not in any libraries nearby. I will try to find
this, and will post something later if I do.
Thanks Michael for your input!
Andrew Waller
http://www.jocelynwaller.info
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote: (excerpted)
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
Also, is the monument in the King's Head Hotel reliable?
I have no idea, I'm afraid.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
-
Gjest
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Drew wrote:
I don't think my other reply came through. To repeat:
The Wilts visitation mentions the Strange family not at all, but only
Robert as part of the Hungerford pedigree. I don't recall the Gloucs,
but I'm sure I read through it a few times. I have both in my local
university library as part of the Harleian society publications. I will
look intothe PCC wills--I just sent for the 2 likely candidates, we'll
see how tehy turn out.
Surely someone has seen the church in Somerford Keynes!? Perhaps
Michael W. Cook? (of medieval castles, abbeys, etc.) The monument in
Cirencester sounds interesting as well.
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
The source for the material I quoted is the records of the Society of
Genealogists' library in London. The lists are quoted on a website
whose author is presumably a researcher with similar interests to
yours; perhaps it would be fruitful if you made contact with him?
The PCC reference is to a will proved by the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, at the time England's highest probate court. Its registers
(including copies of wills) are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk and
for a few dollars you can download copies of the wills for yourself.
Will Johnson's extracted IGI baptism references seem very useful as
well, although I would suggest that Robert's ownweship of property at
Somerford Keynes indicates that his birth (and presumably baptism)
should pre- rather than post-date those presented.
The memorial in Somerford Keynes church sounds worth investigating:
with any luck it will reveal the Strange family's coat of arms; I
presume you have already looked at Wilts and Gloucs Visitation records
without success?
Regards
Michael
-
Gjest
Re: Robert Strange and the Hungerfords
Drew wrote:
The Wilts visitation mentions the Strange family not at all, but only
Robert as part of the Hungerford pedigree. I don't recall the Gloucs,
but I'm sure I read through it a few times. I have both in my local
university library as part of the Harleian society publications. I will
look intothe PCC wills--I just sent for the 2 likely candidates, we'll
see how tehy turn out.
Surely someone has seen the church in Somerford Keynes!? Perhaps
Michael W. Cook? (of medieval castles, abbeys, etc.) The monument in
Cirencester sounds interesting as well.
I have been corresponding off-list with Andrew Lock, of the Manor
House, Somerford Keynes. He has very generously furnished me with some
further particulars of the Strange monuments both in the church and in
the house itself, and has gone to the trouble of taking various
photographs of these for me. I intend to go down there in the Spring.
Anyone interested is welcome to contact me directly.
Regards, Michael