Katherine Surtees Place Wycliffe

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Katherine Surtees Place Wycliffe

Legg inn av Brad Verity » 24 okt 2006 09:00:26

Douglas Richardson's PA3, p. 113, states that Katherine Surtees, wife
of John Place of Halnaby, Yorkshire, and daughter of Thomas Surtees of
Dinsdale, Durham & Elizabeth Conyers of Sockburn, "was living as a
widow in 1570."

This is problematic chronologically, as Katherine was married to John
Place of Halnaby (as his second wife) in 1497.

A settlement of the Surtees estates in 1552, however, helps to clear up
the matter.

From Richard Welford (ed.), 'History of Newcastle and Gateshead' Volume
II [London: Walter Scott, 1885]: "Thomas [Surtees, of Dinsdale] the

younger died in 1511; and it was not till 1552 that the suit was
decided by an agreement, 5 Oct. 6 Edw. VI., betwixt Sir Robert
Brandling of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, knight, and Anne his wife, Thomas
Blaxton of Blaxton, esquire, and Elizabeth his wife, daughters and
heirs of one Catherine Wyclyffe [Catherine Place's name by a second
marriage], deceased, sister and heir of the whole blood to one Thomas
Surtees, late of Dinsdale, esquire, deceased; and Francis Wyclyffe,
gentleman, one other of the heirs of the said Catherine--that is to
say, son of Dorothy, daughter of Catherine, of the one part, and
Marmaduke Surtees, esquire, brother of the half blood to the aforesaid
Thomas Surtees and Catherine Wyclyffe of the other part."

So it would appear that Katherine Surtees, second wife of John Place of
Halnaby, took a second husband ------- Wycliffe, and was dead by 1552.
The exact identity of Katherine's Wycliffe second husband is not known,
but he may have been John Wycliffe of Wycliffe, Yorkshire, whose son
and heir William Wycliffe of Wycliffe married Katherine's daughter
Dorothy Wycliffe.

Cheers, ------Brad

Douglas Richardson

Katherine (Surtees) Place and her son, Bernard Place, Esq.

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 24 okt 2006 18:41:53

Dear Newsgroup ~

Brad's interesting post today regarding Katherine Surtees, 2nd wife of
John Place, only tells part of the story. Several secondary sources
make it clear that Katherine (Surtees) Place was the heiress in 1511 to
her full brother, Thomas Surtees, Esq., by which she inherited the
manors of Dinsdale, Stodhoe, and Over Middleton, Durham, and various
other estates. It appears that Katherine's inheritance of these
properties was challenged by her half-brother, Marmaduke Surtees, and
prolonged lawsuits followed. The matter was not settled until 1552,
when Katherine's surviving two daughters and a grandson conveyed the
manor of Over Middleton and a moiety of the manor of Morton Palmes to
Marmaduke Surtees, as indicated by Dur. Rec. cl. 3, no. 148; cl. 12,
no. 1 (i). See also the account in Surtees, iii, 232, derived in part
from the Lambton title-deeds.

The 1552 settlement obscures the fact that Katherine (Surtees) Place
was succeeded sometime before 1543, by her son, Bernard Place, Esq.,
who died without issue before 1549. For evidence that Bernard Place
survived his mother, the following document is presented from the A2A
Catalogue in which Bernard Place is specifically styled "next of kin
and heir to Thomas Surtees (Surtays) of Dinsdale (Ditneshall) Durham,
esq." Bernard Place, Esq., was living in 1543, but evidently dead
before 1549, when his sister, Anne, and her husband, Sir Robert
Brandling, sold their one third share of the manor of Dinsdale, Durham.

Source:
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/documentxs ... esheet=xsl\A2A_com.xsl&keyword=Bernard%20Place&properties=0601

Northumberland Record Office: Delaval of Seaton Delaval Mss

Reference: 1DE/1/156

Unexecuted deed

Creation dates: n.d

Scope and Content

Of gift from Bernard Place esq. next of kin and heir to Thomas Surtees
(Surtays) of Dinsdale (Ditneshall) Durham, esq. to George Conyers of
Sockburn (Sokburne) of a close in Dinsdale (Ditheshall) called Ox
close. END OF QUOTE.

Best always, Douglas Richardson

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