Giffards of Yester

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Tim Powys-Lybbe

Giffards of Yester

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 23 okt 2006 16:55:28

The Giffards of Yester, East Lothian, Scotland were ancestors both of
some Boyds of Kilmarnock and of some Hays of Lochermouth. I have not
seen any mention of this site by Bruce and Barbara Morrison before but
it is one of the best documented internet sites I have ever seen and
give the ancestry of these Giffards:

See this address:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... DOFYESTER/

which links also to a part II at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... page2.html

and to some Morham ancestors of these Giffards at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... OFSCOTLAND

(I've done a quick search in the archives and can see no mention of this
site.)

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Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Merilyn Pedrick

Re: Giffards of Yester

Legg inn av Merilyn Pedrick » 24 okt 2006 03:35:02

Dear Tim
Do you know if these Giffards connect in any way with Rohese Giffard born
1034, daughter of Walter Giffard, who married Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare.
Secondly, there were 16th Century Giffards descending from William Giffard,
born about 1482 at Itchell, Hampshire, who married Eleanor Paulet, daughter
of John Paulet of Basing, Hampshire.
Best wishes
Merilyn Pedrick
Aldgate, South Australia

-------Original Message-------

From: Tim Powys-Lybbe
Date: 10/24/06 01:47:11
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Giffards of Yester

The Giffards of Yester, East Lothian, Scotland were ancestors both of
some Boyds of Kilmarnock and of some Hays of Lochermouth. I have not
seen any mention of this site by Bruce and Barbara Morrison before but
it is one of the best documented internet sites I have ever seen and
give the ancestry of these Giffards:

See this address:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... DOFYESTER/

which links also to a part II at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... page2.html

and to some Morham ancestors of these Giffards at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... OFSCOTLAND

(I've done a quick search in the archives and can see no mention of this
site.)

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Giffards of Yester

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 24 okt 2006 10:21:52

In message of 24 Oct, pedricks@ozemail.com.au ("Merilyn Pedrick") wrote:

Do you know if these Giffards connect in any way with Rohese Giffard
born 1034, daughter of Walter Giffard, who married Richard fitz
Gilbert de Clare. Secondly, there were 16th Century Giffards
descending from William Giffard, born about 1482 at Itchell,
Hampshire, who married Eleanor Paulet, daughter of John Paulet of
Basing, Hampshire.

The author discusses this in this paragraph, near the bottom of the
first www link below:

"The origins of Hugh Giffard of Yester indicate that he and his
brothers are the first of the Giffards in Scotland. Given the standing
of Hugh with the Huntington retinue, it is very likely that he is a
descendant of the well known Norman family of Giffard who held the
honor of Longueville-la-Gifart in France. These Giffards were
companions of William I, and received large land holdings in England
after the conquest. Hugh Giffard appears to have no land holdings in
England other than a portion of Potton which was granted by the
Huntingtons circa 1160. This makes it most difficult to trace his
Anglo-Norman origin in England. It has been suggested he was a son of
Osbert Giffard of Brimesfield, but proper dating shows this to be
impossible. The father of Hugh Giffard would have had to be born circa
1100, and no viable candidate of that generation of English Giffards
emerges to date. I have found a few minor clues which may point toward
the line of Osbern Giffard, who was the ancestor of the Brimesfield
Giffards. As Hugh Giffard seemed to have no appreciable land holdings
in England, it is likely that his father would be a second or unknown
younger son of a major line. Speculating that Hugh may have been
connected to the Brimesfield (Gloucestershire) line, his father
possibly could have been a younger son of Elias Giffard I considering
the known date parameters."


-------Original Message-------

From: Tim Powys-Lybbe
Date: 10/24/06 01:47:11
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Giffards of Yester

The Giffards of Yester, East Lothian, Scotland were ancestors both of
some Boyds of Kilmarnock and of some Hays of Lochermouth. I have not
seen any mention of this site by Bruce and Barbara Morrison before but
it is one of the best documented internet sites I have ever seen and
give the ancestry of these Giffards:

See this address:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... DOFYESTER/

which links also to a part II at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... page2.html

and to some Morham ancestors of these Giffards at:

http://community-2.webtv.net/NUbrubun55 ... OFSCOTLAND

(I've done a quick search in the archives and can see no mention of this
site.)

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          tim@powys.org
             For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

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