Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

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D. Spencer Hines

Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 21 okt 2006 19:10:07

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

ray o'hara

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av ray o'hara » 21 okt 2006 19:21:09

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.

once again hiney you are wrong.

J Antero

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av J Antero » 21 okt 2006 19:21:57

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

William Black

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av William Black » 21 okt 2006 19:43:19

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

We don't anymore.

Our best footballers play in their sides and we go there for our holidays.

I know this is going to hurt, but, unlike the USA, the UK has changed
tremendously in the past few decades.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Bryn

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Bryn » 21 okt 2006 19:43:41

In message <2uydnaI0za6P-KfYnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com>, ray o'hara
<roh@comcast.net> writes
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.

once again hiney you are wrong.

My "Y" chromosome tells a very different story...


--
Bryn

My wife has ruined my 'elf!
I think she sat on him..

Gjest

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 okt 2006 20:19:05

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.


Especially those feeble fools who try to link their heritage to the
so-called aristocracy of that Spanish colony.

Richard van Schaik

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Richard van Schaik » 21 okt 2006 20:23:57

jacklinthicum@earthlink.net wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

Especially those feeble fools who try to link their heritage to the
so-called aristocracy of that Spanish colony.

Sneering as a hobby?

--
Richard van Schaik
f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISwanadoo.nl
http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/

Michael W Cook

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Michael W Cook » 21 okt 2006 20:38:57

On 21/10/06 19:10, in article Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net, "D.
Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

You are, Hines.

And as usual quoting news that is weeks out of date.

This appeared in the Independent at least six weeks ago.

But I wonder where Hines believed we all lived 10,000 years ago when there
were sixty metre ice sheets as far south as Birmingham ?

And much of Northern Europe was an arctic wasteland ?

The Watford Gap ?

Hines needs to do a bit of basic work on his archaeology and geography me
thinks - Basic school kid stuff really.

Nothing changes I see.

Gordon Banks

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Gordon Banks » 21 okt 2006 22:00:03

I contributed to the Banks DNA project (my Bankses are from the
Lancashire/Yorkshire border) and so far the closest matches are
Spaniards. I was born in New Mexico and even had a person of Spanish
ancestry from there find me in the DNA library and ask if I could be
related. I am the first Banks of my family born in New Mexico. His
family has probably been there for over 400 years. It is interesting
though that I have a 12 locus exact match with people of Spanish
ancestry.


"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

The Highlander

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av The Highlander » 21 okt 2006 22:58:06

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com>
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books
of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the
Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from
Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of
Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most
savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however
barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of
Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still
live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly
destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the
Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many
victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear
witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their
kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own
royal stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Given your own distaste for the English, why would you seize on the
work of some Englishmen to make a lie of your own claimed ancestry? Or
did ego prompt you as usual to leap into print without pausing to
consider the consequences?

Please act instantly to remove your unwanted presence from
soc.culture.scottish, Señor Hinez.

¡Aquí no habla español mexicano!

--------------------------------------------------------
foolish fantasies snipped


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

Michael W Cook

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Michael W Cook » 21 okt 2006 23:16:12

On 21/10/06 22:58, in article l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com,
"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.

He's never really explained that one.

His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.

As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.

Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.

I jest you not.

He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.

Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.

Other key words:

Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa

All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.

By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

J Antero

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av J Antero » 21 okt 2006 23:34:50

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it?


Ask Hines.

ray o'hara

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av ray o'hara » 22 okt 2006 00:02:21

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...
it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

actually i could believe hines is related to you.
you are both boastful net-loons who make fantasic and unsubstantiated
claim{lies} while never offering a shred of proof.

Tiglath

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Tiglath » 22 okt 2006 04:14:06

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago.

Yep, we sent the riff-raff to the cold room.

And I bet that swarthy Little Willie borrowed his entire Y chromosome
from peoples in the Iberian Peninsula.

William Black is a closet garlic-eater.

A Little Dick Spick.



Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.


Leaving large genetic footprints is a lot of fun.

Iberians have always understood that and led by example.



Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

And the pretty ones got a fresh load of genetic material to be sure.

Renia, Celia come to papa.

The Highlander

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av The Highlander » 22 okt 2006 04:31:05

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:16:12 +0100, Michael W Cook
<mwcook@santlache.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/10/06 22:58, in article l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com,
"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.

He's never really explained that one.

His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.

As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.

Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.

I jest you not.

He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.

Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.

Other key words:

Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa

All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.

By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

Thank you for the information - we'll put it to good use!

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

The Highlander

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av The Highlander » 22 okt 2006 04:37:02

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:34:50 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com>
wrote:

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it?


Ask Hines.

I did. Typically. there's an embarrassed silence...


Can you imagine the descendant of a Eurotrash Kentucky whorehouse pimp
should swagger round Usenet giving himself such airs and graces?

Why isn't he in Iraq, doing his duty? I know why; it's because he's
been passed over so many times for promotion that not even the
sanitation squad wants him sullying their good name!

D. Spencer Hines - America's answer to the Turd Gap!

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

The Highlander

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av The Highlander » 22 okt 2006 04:40:51

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:02:21 -0400, "ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net>
wrote:

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...
it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

actually i could believe hines is related to you.
you are both boastful net-loons who make fantasic and unsubstantiated
claim{lies} while never offering a shred of proof.

Ah, yes, Mr. O'Hara; Boston's official Plastic Paddie! The man who

claims that the D-Day attack on Normandy was launched from New York or
maybe Boston.

The US sure has an ample supply of halfwits to choose from when
looking for cannonfodder.

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

Tiglath

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Tiglath » 22 okt 2006 05:55:53

ray o'hara wrote:
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.

once again hiney you are wrong.

You don't know what you are talking about.

To suggest that the Visigoth replaced the Celtiberians and only a few
pockets remained in France and Northwestern Spain and follow such
suggesting by telling other people that are wrong, richly deserves a
thrashing.

Althought the Visigoths were the ruling elite they were numerically
inferior to the rest of the population. I've heard ratios from 7/1 7
to 20/1, for different periods.

"There were no more than 300,000 Germanic people in Spain, which had a
population of 4 million, and their overall influence on Spanish history
is generally seen as minimal."

http://www.unr.edu/cla/fll/bevia/SPAN22 ... opies2.pdf

It seems, however, that none of the historical groups, including the
Visigoths and the Celts, is genetically more preponderant in Spain that
the Iberians (haplogroup R1b), the earliest paleolithic group that
populated the Iberian peninsula c. 30,000 BC. They are the people who
migrated to Britain mentioned in the report, . The Celts arrived in
the Iberian Peninsula in the early first millenium BC, and formed the
group known as the Celtiberians.

William Black

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av William Black » 22 okt 2006 09:33:20

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...

The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.

'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.

It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.

There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.

But it's still a good story.


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Surreyman

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Surreyman » 22 okt 2006 10:54:52

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

So the Celts only started 8,000 years ago in Spain?
And so what are 'Yanks' - eastern Orientals?
Or aren't we all just Abyssinians?

Twit.

Virginia was enjoyed!

Surreyman

Michael W Cook

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Michael W Cook » 22 okt 2006 13:41:15

On 22/10/06 04:31, in article meplj296gp374bu6kve78hrdh2iv91btg6@4ax.com,
"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:16:12 +0100, Michael W Cook
mwcook@santlache.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/10/06 22:58, in article l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com,
"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:21:57 GMT, "J Antero" <JAntero45@map.com
wrote:

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.

He's never really explained that one.

His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.

As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.

Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.

I jest you not.

He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.

Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.

Other key words:

Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa

All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.

By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

Thank you for the information - we'll put it to good use!

The Highlander

He tends to go all quiet when challenged on his not so illustrious Naval
Career, but it wasn't always like this.

Before his grand fall from grace was discovered, he was one of the biggest
arm-chair Generals you could ever envisage, a drunk one at that - Boasting
on his experiences of combat, you know the sort, a Milk Dud Warrior if ever
there was one.

Then one day he muttered the immortal words:

"If you ever found out what I did (in the Navy) then I would have to kill
you, or the CIA or MI6 would do it for me"

Hilarious

What a Wanker.

After a little searching and a few well placed posts to US Navy web sites,
it didn't take long before people came crawling out of the woodwork to dump
shit on him, and his career we discovered was very much different to the one
he tried to sell us.

Do the searches, use the info well and as often as you like.

"Red Headed Barbarian" and "South Seas Nautical Jester" being two of my
favourites used to describe him.

Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and with an education at Yale,
everything he has done in his life has turned to shit. He has been living
off his Naval pension for the last 10 years or so because he is basically
unemployable.

Death awaits Mr Hines, the world of Usenet will cheer when it happens.

Bob

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Bob » 22 okt 2006 23:01:40

"William Black" <william_black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ehgm6n$kjq$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:jnmnj2hfqgmr8dp3gdao14dbfsm1slgrbu@4ax.com...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"
william_black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:


"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...

The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.

'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.

It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.

There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or
racial
group.

But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.

But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.

It will make life simpler in future.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.





Yep, stupid English twat.

William Black

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av William Black » 22 okt 2006 23:08:22

"Bob" <bcjs@iname.com> wrote in message
news:8TR_g.28858$3D1.5926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"William Black" <william_black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ehgm6n$kjq$1@news.freedom2surf.net...

"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:jnmnj2hfqgmr8dp3gdao14dbfsm1slgrbu@4ax.com...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"
william_black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:


"The Highlander" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:l04lj2pqhe4n8psi8qshu39ruubnajn9hp@4ax.com...

The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.

'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.

It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal
or
ethnic groups because of this.

There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or
racial
group.

But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.

But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.

It will make life simpler in future.


Yep, stupid English twat.


How one delights at the intellectual level of Usenet


The cut and thrust of argument moderated only by the gentle wit of the
participants.

Irony is nothing to do with either coppery or silvery...

Oh, what on earth makes you think I'm English, and while you're there,
what exactly is your definition of 'English'?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Tiglath

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Tiglath » 23 okt 2006 02:34:08

"Larry Swain" <theswain@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:PfudndSwssm_R6bYnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@rcn.net...
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

Well, that's odd, since the article says that the British descend from
CELTIC peoples from Spain,

Can't you read?

The article says that Brits descend from migrating IBERIANS of 4,000 BC, NOT
CELTS. Celts arrived in Spain 3,000 years later.

Ian MacLure

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Ian MacLure » 24 okt 2006 04:56:24

"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in
news:2uydnaI0za6P-KfYnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com:

[snip]

and spain{galacias} did survive.

Gah-leeth-eya
Charo for instance.

IBM

Ken Wood

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Ken Wood » 24 okt 2006 05:02:54

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

What about all those Vikings and Normans (Vikings once removed)? Hows
'bout the Romans, and the occassional monkey rescued from a piece of
driftwood?

KW












But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

kilian heckrodt

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av kilian heckrodt » 25 okt 2006 04:21:46

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Well i think this requires a more careful interpretation. The Spanish

back then are not the of nowadays. In fact there's no such thing as a
spanish nation or spanish people before the late medieval ages.
Generally speaking all European regions are
culturally/ethnically/lenetically mixed, due to various
factions/cultures spreading over/dominating large areas of Europe:
Celts,Romans,germanic tribes,vikings,habsburg,french,germans

Jackie Mulheron

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Jackie Mulheron » 28 okt 2006 20:51:21

"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2uydnaI0za6P-KfYnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oot_g.31$EW2.651@eagle.america.net...
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany}
and
spain{galacias} did survive.

They may have eliminated the languages (whaur's Gothic these days by the
way) but doesn't mean they eradicated populations.

If DNA evidence is showing England's genetic make up is largely based on
pre-Anglo-Saxon genes then it would seem they imported a ruling class and
language onto an existing populace.

The same would apply to the Goths in Spain.

> once again hiney you are wrong.

Geiserik

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Geiserik » 29 okt 2006 20:41:54

D. Spencer Hines schreef:

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

Strange that it is a surprise to you

About two years ago I did read an article in the National Geografic
about theThracian invasions under Parthalon n Ireland, making a stop
between in Spanish Galicia and special the light tower of la Coruna and
its king are mentionned in the Lebor Gabala, The Irish Book of yhe
Invasions.

Another surprise for you may be is my theory that one could find the
events of the Book of Mormon in our own classics, by looking it up in
our own historybooks in the same year.

The invasion of Parthalon and his three druids you will find In the
Book of Mormon in the story of Hagoth, a curious man, who build a ship
around 100bC and sailed southwards through a bottleneck of water from
the Black Sea to the lands on the North.
This curious man probably was the druïd Investigation.

Turenne

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Turenne » 31 okt 2006 17:47:16

The monkey was rescued only to be hanged!

Richard L
Ken Wood wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

What about all those Vikings and Normans (Vikings once removed)? Hows
'bout the Romans, and the occassional monkey rescued from a piece of
driftwood?

KW













But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

Gjest

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Gjest » 02 nov 2006 17:26:34

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

If you live in Britain and make Britain your home, you're British.

Anyway, I'm Scandinavian by ancecstry.

--
JGH

Renia

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Renia » 02 nov 2006 18:04:33

jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk wrote:

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.


If you live in Britain and make Britain your home, you're British.

No, to be British you have to be naturalised or born there.

a.spencer3

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av a.spencer3 » 02 nov 2006 18:35:35

"Renia" <renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote in message
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jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk wrote:

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.


If you live in Britain and make Britain your home, you're British.

No, to be British you have to be naturalised or born there.

Or born Brit overseas, of course.

Surreyman

Gjest

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 nov 2006 13:21:37

Considering how much Irish immigration into England has taken place in
the last 300 years (and Scots and Welsh even longer), it would be
surprising if there were not a Celtic imprint all over the British
isles. Irish legend has always claimed the island was invaded from
Spain in pre-Celtic times. People have to come from somewhere.

We're all descended from some lady in Central Africa c. 60,000 years
ago.

Jean Coeur de Lapin

boseley

Re: Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

Legg inn av boseley » 05 nov 2006 18:51:49

<atsarisborn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Considering how much Irish immigration into England has taken place in
the last 300 years (and Scots and Welsh even longer), it would be
surprising if there were not a Celtic imprint all over the British
isles. Irish legend has always claimed the island was invaded from
Spain in pre-Celtic times. People have to come from somewhere.

We're all descended from some lady in Central Africa c. 60,000 years
ago.

Jean Coeur de Lapin


You might be, I´m not,


--
Bob
Between Holmfirth and Wakefield

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