I believe it was recently shown in _NEHGR_ that the wife of New England
settler Mr. William1 Aspinwall was a certain Elizabeth Goodyear,
possibly with ties to the English religious refugees in the Low
Countries.
RCA, in his sketch of Aspinwall in GMB, states the following under
"Associations":
5 August 1634: "John Humfry, Esq., & Mr. Increase Nowell was desired by
the Court to take depositions of the witnesses of Mr. Aspinwall, in a
case betwixt Sir William Brewerton, Baronet, & the said Mr. Aspinwall"
[MBCR 1:123]; Aspinwall's opponent in this case was Sir William
Brereton (1604-1661) [DNB]. This case was presumably brought in the
English courts and, although there may not be any genealogical relation
between Aspinwall and Brereton, the records of this case, if they could
be found, should tell us something of Aspinwall's whereabouts and
activities in England before 1630. (Note also that Aspinwall apparently
ended his days in Cheshire, which was the county of origin of
Brereton.)
See
http://www.newenglandancestors.org/rese ... sp?print=1
..
Pages 10 and 15 of Dugdale's _Pedigree of the Family of Dod of
Cloverley_ may offer some clues. Page 10 shows the following line of
descent:
John Dodd of Edge = Emme, da. & coheire of Humfrey Breerton of the
Mapas
Davy Dodd of Edge = Catheren, Daughter of Nicholas Manley of Polton
Then, p. 15 shows Davy and Catherine Dodd with a daughter "Katherin,
wife to Goodyar."
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0vzW3 ... igree+gent
Keith L. Sprunger's article, "Other Pilgrims in Leiden: Hugh Goodyear
and the English Reformed Church" (_Church History_, vol. 41), contains
at least two very interesting sentences in this regard:
--p. 57: "Six months later Sir William Brereton, travelling through
Leiden, stopped off for the Sunday and 'heard Mr. Goodier (a worthy,
honest man) in the English church.'"
--p. 58: "Other letters came from Boston [to Rev. Hugh Goodyear]. Mr.
John Cotton and Mrs. John Wilson 'desire to be remembered to you,'
assured William Aspinwall in one of these letters."
Possible Goodyear-Brereton-Aspinwall connection
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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John Brandon
Re: Possible Goodyear-Brereton-Aspinwall connection
--p. 58: "Other letters came from Boston [to Rev. Hugh Goodyear]. Mr.
John Cotton and Mrs. John Wilson 'desire to be remembered to you,'
assured William Aspinwall in one of these letters."
I might also note in passing that Mrs. John Wilson (i.e., Elizabeth
Mansfield, wife of Rev. John Wilson of Boston) was said to be related
to a certain John Dod, minister, in some way we were never able to
trace.
Elizabeth's uncle, Capt. Ralph Mansfield (and his son as well), married
women from Cheshire gentry families.
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John Brandon
Re: Possible Goodyear-Brereton-Aspinwall connection
Also interesting are RCA's comments about Mary, a possible daughter of
William and Elizabeth (Goodyear) Aspinwall. (Note that she may have
married into the Gove family -- probably a relation of Mr. John1
Mansfield's wife Mary Gove) ...
i (poss.) MARY, b. about 1628; m. Cambridge 6 October 1658 John
Gove as his first wife. (There is no direct evidence that Mary belongs
in this family, but she has been placed here by many writers because
there is no other family in which to place her [unless she is in some
way related to Peter Aspinwall, who arrived in New England in the
1640s]. Her estimated date of birth, which would make her thirty at
marriage, is made necessary because there is no place else to fit her
in the sequence of births down to 1644, and any later date would make
her only about twelve at marriage. [As Boston town clerk and recorder
of births, marriages and deaths at the time these early Boston vital
records were prepared in 1644, Aspinwall included his daughter Dorcas,
who must in fact have been born in Portsmouth. Having done that, he
would surely have included daughter Mary if she had been born in 1642,
say.])
William and Elizabeth (Goodyear) Aspinwall. (Note that she may have
married into the Gove family -- probably a relation of Mr. John1
Mansfield's wife Mary Gove) ...
i (poss.) MARY, b. about 1628; m. Cambridge 6 October 1658 John
Gove as his first wife. (There is no direct evidence that Mary belongs
in this family, but she has been placed here by many writers because
there is no other family in which to place her [unless she is in some
way related to Peter Aspinwall, who arrived in New England in the
1640s]. Her estimated date of birth, which would make her thirty at
marriage, is made necessary because there is no place else to fit her
in the sequence of births down to 1644, and any later date would make
her only about twelve at marriage. [As Boston town clerk and recorder
of births, marriages and deaths at the time these early Boston vital
records were prepared in 1644, Aspinwall included his daughter Dorcas,
who must in fact have been born in Portsmouth. Having done that, he
would surely have included daughter Mary if she had been born in 1642,
say.])
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John Brandon
Re: Possible Goodyear-Brereton-Aspinwall connection
i (poss.) MARY, b. about 1628; m. Cambridge 6 October 1658 JohnGoveas his first wife. (There is no direct evidence that Mary belongs
in this family, but she has been placed here by many writers because
there is no other family in which to place her [unless she is in some
way related to PeterAspinwall, who arrived in New England in the
1640s]. Her estimated date of birth, which would make her thirty at
marriage, is made necessary because there is no place else to fit her
in the sequence of births down to 1644, and any later date would make
her only about twelve at marriage. [As Boston town clerk and recorder
of births, marriages and deaths at the time these early Boston vital
records were prepared in 1644,Aspinwallincluded his daughter Dorcas,
who must in fact have been born in Portsmouth. Having done that, he
would surely have included daughter Mary if she had been born in 1642,
say.])
It seems Mary Aspinwall Gove was actually born ca. 1644. See
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0 ... th+bushell
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John Brandon
Re: Aldborough/Mauleverer/Goldesborough
I don't really see why my thread had to be hijacked and the title
changed ....
changed ....
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Brad Verity
Re: Aldborough/Mauleverer/Goldesborough
John Brandon wrote:
Sorry, John. Nothing personal.
I originally made my post through Google as a reply to John Higgins's
thread 'Mauleverer - additions to RPA/PA3 and MCA?'. But that post
never made it to the GenMed mailing list (the gateway must be broken
again?), so I took the most recent GenMed message in my Inbox and used
that to send my post direct to the mailing list.
Cheers, ----Brad
I don't really see why my thread had to be hijacked and the title
changed ....
Sorry, John. Nothing personal.
I originally made my post through Google as a reply to John Higgins's
thread 'Mauleverer - additions to RPA/PA3 and MCA?'. But that post
never made it to the GenMed mailing list (the gateway must be broken
again?), so I took the most recent GenMed message in my Inbox and used
that to send my post direct to the mailing list.
Cheers, ----Brad
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Don Stone
Gateway problems
Brad Verity wrote:
[snip]
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with in tracking down a problem.
-- Don Stone
[snip]
I originally made my post through Google as a reply to John Higgins's
thread 'Mauleverer - additions to RPA/PA3 and MCA?'. But that post
never made it to the GenMed mailing list (the gateway must be broken
again?), so I took the most recent GenMed message in my Inbox and used
that to send my post direct to the mailing list.
Let me repeat a long-standing request to inform the listowner (Todd Farmerie
or me) of any problems with the gateway. Send an email to
gen-medieval-admin@rootsweb.com, giving the Subject, Sender, and Date/time
of the message which didn't go through the gateway.
There are still a few small quirks from the transition to the Mailman
software, and a specific example gives the Rootsweb staff something to work
with in tracking down a problem.
-- Don Stone