re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

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re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av Jeffery A. Duvall » 05 okt 2006 00:36:02

Last year there were several message on the subject of the de Basings (Basing, or de Basynges) family, so I thought I'd post this and see if anyone could help...

Google books has a snippet showing a reference to a source called *London Topographical Record, Illustrated* (page 55), which apparently identifies the family of Margery, wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302) who served as Sheriff of London ca. 1279. The "snippet" says that Margery was the daughter of Idonia de...

Unfortunately, the source is one of those which does not provide access to the full text and, as I discovered much to my frustration, the link brings up a different portion of the page in question so Idonia's surname is not available.

Perhaps if someone has access to this source they could provide the missing surname.

For any interested parties, Sir Robert de Basings was the father of Sir William de Basings (d. 1316), M.P., husband of Margaret de Normanville (ca. 1277-1341), and ancestor of at least one (of those dreaded American) gateway ancestors -- Mrs. Frances Baldwin Townsend Jones Williams of Virginia.

Thanks.

Jeff Duvall
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jeffery@iquest.net
jduvall@iupui.edu

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 05 okt 2006 00:36:03

In article <000c01c6e804$db24e7e0$1b632bd1@Jeffery>,
jeffery@iquest.net ("Jeffery A. Duvall") wrote:

Last year there were several message on the subject of the de Basings
(Basing, or de Basynges) family, so I thought I'd post this and see if anyone
could help...

Google books has a snippet showing a reference to a source called *London
Topographical Record, Illustrated* (page 55), which apparently identifies the
family of Margery, wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302) who served as
Sheriff of London ca. 1279. The "snippet" says that Margery was the daughter
of Idonia de...

Unfortunately, the source is one of those which does not provide access to
the full text and, as I discovered much to my frustration, the link brings up
a different portion of the page in question so Idonia's surname is not
available.

Snippet continues:

"... married Margery, daughter of Idonia de Cantebrigge. Robert, who
died in 1298, had houses in Milk Street. His wife inherited from her
mother in 1312 a large house in Mild Street, which she at once sold to
Sir John Enefield."

see:

http://tinyurl.com/hpa47

Nat Taylor

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 05 okt 2006 01:24:04

In article
<nathanieltaylor-89755C.18442804102006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
Nathaniel Taylor <nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net> wrote:

In article <000c01c6e804$db24e7e0$1b632bd1@Jeffery>,
jeffery@iquest.net ("Jeffery A. Duvall") wrote:

Last year there were several message on the subject of the de Basings
(Basing, or de Basynges) family, so I thought I'd post this and see if
anyone
could help...

Google books has a snippet showing a reference to a source called *London
Topographical Record, Illustrated* (page 55), which apparently identifies
the
family of Margery, wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302) who served
as
Sheriff of London ca. 1279. The "snippet" says that Margery was the
daughter
of Idonia de...

Unfortunately, the source is one of those which does not provide access to
the full text and, as I discovered much to my frustration, the link brings
up
a different portion of the page in question so Idonia's surname is not
available.

Snippet continues:

"... married Margery, daughter of Idonia de Cantebrigge. Robert, who
died in 1298, had houses in Milk Street. His wife inherited from her
mother in 1312 a large house in Mild Street, which she at once sold to
Sir John Enefield."

see:

http://tinyurl.com/hpa47

FYI this appears to be volume 10 (1916), from further hacking of the
'search in this book' slot (e.g. try searching on the word "volume").

Nat Taylor

Gjest

Re: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 okt 2006 10:13:50

"Jeffery A. Duvall" wrote:
Last year there were several message on the subject of the de Basings (Basing, or de Basynges) family, so I thought I'd post this and see if anyone could help...

Google books has a snippet showing a reference to a source called *London Topographical Record, Illustrated* (page 55), which apparently identifies the family of Margery, wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302) who served as Sheriff of London ca. 1279. The "snippet" says that Margery was the daughter of Idonia de...

Unfortunately, the source is one of those which does not provide access to the full text and, as I discovered much to my frustration, the link brings up a different portion of the page in question so Idonia's surname is not available.

Perhaps if someone has access to this source they could provide the missing surname.

For any interested parties, Sir Robert de Basings was the father of Sir William de Basings (d. 1316), M.P., husband of Margaret de Normanville (ca. 1277-1341), and ancestor of at least one (of those dreaded American) gateway ancestors -- Mrs. Frances Baldwin Townsend Jones Williams of Virginia.

It appears that the connection of Sir Robert de Basing with the noted
de Basing family of London is unknown. It would be astonishing if he
were not connected, given that both he and the known members of the
family achieved contemporary high office in London. However, it seems
that they used quite different arms. Perhaps the answer lies in the
then-current custom of female-line descendants adopting the name of a
well-known family for whatever reason - e.g. Salomon de la More, whose
mother was a de Basing, was also known as Salomon de Basing.

MA-R

John Brandon

Re: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av John Brandon » 05 okt 2006 14:25:17

FYI this appears to be volume 10 (1916), from further hacking of the
'search in this book' slot (e.g. try searching on the word "volume").

Nat Taylor

One way of figuring out an approximate year of publication is entering
years around the time period you suspect may apply ("1898," "1899,"
"1900," "1901"). The most recent year for which you get hits is the
approximate date, as publications usually do not mention future dates.

JDUVALL

RE: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Legg inn av JDUVALL » 05 okt 2006 17:16:01

Nat,

Thanks for finding the "missing" information. I gather I gave up too
soon (in my frustration with Google Books). Now I'll know better for
next time.

Thanks again.

Jeff Duvall

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Subject: Re: re. wife of Sir Robert de Basings (d. ca. 1302)

Big Snip:
"... married Margery, daughter of Idonia de Cantebrigge. Robert, who
died in 1298, had houses in Milk Street. His wife inherited from her
mother in 1312 a large house in Mild Street, which she at once sold to

Sir John Enefield."

see:

http://tinyurl.com/hpa47

FYI this appears to be volume 10 (1916), from further hacking of the
'search in this book' slot (e.g. try searching on the word "volume").

Nat Taylor

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