Kendal, Gospatrick, Samlesbury

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Kendal, Gospatrick, Samlesbury

Legg inn av paul bulkley » 19 sep 2006 18:15:02

Patricia:

Here is some more information which clarifies and
probably answers your questions:

Gospatrick (son) Orm: He had a second wife named Ada
daughter King William Scotland (Yahoo)

Children of Gospatrick (son) Orm included Thomas 2nd
Lord Workington (born 1130), Gilbert, and Orme (born
1140) (Yahoo and Lords of Galloway)

Alan (son) Waldieve (Waltheof) 2nd Lord of Allendale
and his cousin german gave Gospatrick "High Ireby"
which remained in a younger branch of Curwens and
terminated in female heirs. (Curwen Gen 249)

Gospatrick (son) Orm gave two parts fishery Derwent to
Abbey Holm Cultram except Waytcroft given to Priory of
Carlisle which was granted over by proxy to Thomas
(son) Gospatrick upon a reserved rent of 7/- (Curwen
Gen 249)

Thomas (son) Gospatrick:
Born 1130 died ------- married Grace (probably
1140/1150. Described as Lord of Workington (Yahoo)

It would appear that Thomas (son) Gospatrick could
have been "well and kicking" at the end of the 12th
Century. Thus the information provided by you of
Thomas (1119) and his death (1152)is presumably
incorrect (date wise)

1175/1176:(Lanc P/R) William Earl of Boulogne and
Mortain was founder of Abbey of Premonstratension
Canons of Croxton, and his son William le Porter was a
substantial benefactor at a later date. So I imagine
that Thomas (s) Gospatrick, being a founder of the
mansion only undertook his great works close to end of
Century.

On that basis Thomas (son) Thomas quite likely married
Johanna de Veteriponte early 1200s. It should be noted
that the Robert de Veteriponte mentioned in Lanc P/R
1205/1206 and I think 1212/1215 was probably the
brother of Johanna.

Anyhow my interest are the number of possible junior
members "roaming the gloaming" 1120-1200. Please
advise if you have any particulars.

By the way just found two more significant bits of
info:

Charters in Regesta Regum Anglo Norman 1135/1154. York
of St Marys Abbey confirms of grants in Bromfield and
Stainsburn Cumberland by Waltheof Dunbar father
Gospatrick. This father is Gospatrick Dunbar I.

I no longer have the text and assume that the
confirmation was given during Waltheof's life. He was
becoming ancient by 1135, so I imagine that his grants
took place then.

Also (LancP/R) 1203/1204 Ada or Aline (widow) William
Fleming of Furness married William le Boteler of
Warrington. You may remember she was the daughter of
Thomas (son) Gospatrick. This info also establishes a
probable marriage date for Thomas and Grace.

Best wishes

Paul Bulkley



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