Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
Thank you
Marge
Edward the younger of Salisbury
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Gjest
Re: Edward the younger of Salisbury
Marge wrote:
Younger son of Edward of Salisbury, sometime Sheriff of Wiltshire,
whose descendant Ela brought the Salisbury title to William Longespee.
I think the above details are from Keats-Rohan.
Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
Younger son of Edward of Salisbury, sometime Sheriff of Wiltshire,
whose descendant Ela brought the Salisbury title to William Longespee.
I think the above details are from Keats-Rohan.
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: Edward the younger of Salisbury
In message of 4 Sep, "Marge" <mep33@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
This is a direct quote from Keats-Rohan's Domesday Descendants, p. 653.
Then if you look up Edward II de Saresberie, p. 700 of the same volume,
there he is with his first wife Adelicia de Raimes. He was a young son
of Eduuard Saresbeiencsis who appears in the same author's excellent
Domesday People, pp. 186-7.
Finally don't forget Rosie Bevan's accumulation of corrections to these
two renowned volumes at http://fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
This is a direct quote from Keats-Rohan's Domesday Descendants, p. 653.
Then if you look up Edward II de Saresberie, p. 700 of the same volume,
there he is with his first wife Adelicia de Raimes. He was a young son
of Eduuard Saresbeiencsis who appears in the same author's excellent
Domesday People, pp. 186-7.
Finally don't forget Rosie Bevan's accumulation of corrections to these
two renowned volumes at http://fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Gjest
Re: Edward the younger of Salisbury
Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
be both Edward's first wife (p.700) and his widow (p.653).
Edward and Adelicia apparently had a daughter Leonia who married Robert
d'Estouteville/de Stuteville, according to the pedigrees of that family
in ES XIII. If the ES account is correct, they would be ancestral to
(inter alia) Catherine de Balsac (d.1631/2), wife of Esme Stuart, 1st
Duke of Lennox (d.1583).
-Matthew
In message of 4 Sep, "Marge" <mep33@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
This is a direct quote from Keats-Rohan's Domesday Descendants, p. 653.
Then if you look up Edward II de Saresberie, p. 700 of the same volume,
there he is with his first wife Adelicia de Raimes. He was a young son
of Eduuard Saresbeiencsis who appears in the same author's excellent
Domesday People, pp. 186-7.
Hmm, there seems to be a slight inconsistency if Adelicia is stated to
be both Edward's first wife (p.700) and his widow (p.653).
Edward and Adelicia apparently had a daughter Leonia who married Robert
d'Estouteville/de Stuteville, according to the pedigrees of that family
in ES XIII. If the ES account is correct, they would be ancestral to
(inter alia) Catherine de Balsac (d.1631/2), wife of Esme Stuart, 1st
Duke of Lennox (d.1583).
-Matthew
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Marge
Re: Edward the younger of Salisbury
mjcar@btinternet.com wrote:
Wish to thank you, Tim & Matthew for your replies.
Am eagerly awaiting a copy of Keats-Rohan's "Domesday People &
Domesday Descendants"
Marge
Marge wrote:
Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
Younger son of Edward of Salisbury, sometime Sheriff of Wiltshire,
whose descendant Ela brought the Salisbury title to William Longespee.
I think the above details are from Keats-Rohan.
Wish to thank you, Tim & Matthew for your replies.
Am eagerly awaiting a copy of Keats-Rohan's "Domesday People &
Domesday Descendants"
Marge
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: Edward the younger of Salisbury
In message of 4 Sep, mvernonconnolly@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Ooops, my fault: delete 'first'.
Leonia is also given in the article for both her mother and her father,
so she sounds fairly real, and Keats-Rohan includes: "In 1212 Leonia
held the Lincolnshire tenancy-in-chief of her ancestor Ralph fitz Hubert
(Fees 182)."
I have not checked Rosie Bevan's site on DP/DD.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
In message of 4 Sep, "Marge" <mep33@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Is there anyone who can identify "Edward the younger of Salisbury "
mentioned from the following:
The following on Adelicia de Raimes
seems relevant:
"First married to Edward the younger of Salisbury, she was widowed
before 1129/30 when she was the wife of Payn of Houghton."
This is a direct quote from Keats-Rohan's Domesday Descendants, p. 653.
Then if you look up Edward II de Saresberie, p. 700 of the same volume,
there he is with his first wife Adelicia de Raimes. He was a young son
of Eduuard Saresberiensis who appears in the same author's excellent
Domesday People, pp. 186-7.
Hmm, there seems to be a slight inconsistency if Adelicia is stated to
be both Edward's first wife (p.700) and his widow (p.653).
Ooops, my fault: delete 'first'.
Edward and Adelicia apparently had a daughter Leonia who married Robert
d'Estouteville/de Stuteville, according to the pedigrees of that family
in ES XIII. If the ES account is correct, they would be ancestral to
(inter alia) Catherine de Balsac (d.1631/2), wife of Esme Stuart, 1st
Duke of Lennox (d.1583).
Leonia is also given in the article for both her mother and her father,
so she sounds fairly real, and Keats-Rohan includes: "In 1212 Leonia
held the Lincolnshire tenancy-in-chief of her ancestor Ralph fitz Hubert
(Fees 182)."
I have not checked Rosie Bevan's site on DP/DD.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/