A Royal Descent (conjectured): William the Lion to MacDowall

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A Royal Descent (conjectured): William the Lion to MacDowall

Legg inn av Gjest » 03 sep 2006 21:01:03

Sunday, 3 September, 2006


Hello All,

I lately noted the apparent inheritance of Mackerstoun,
Roxburghshire from the Corbet family by the Frasers of
Drumelzier. The lands of this branch of the Frasers were
afterward acquired by marriage, the better known lands being
Mackerstoun (by the MacDowalls) and Drumelzier (by the
Tweedies).

The possibility exists that Laurence Fraser of
Drumelzier [generation 1.1.1.1.1.1 in the pedigree below]
acquired Mackerstoun by marriage, and not solely through
a grant due to forfeiture of other reasons. If so, this
would create a descent from William the Lion, King of
Scots (1165-1214) to both the MacDowalls of Mackerstoun,
and the Tweedies of Drumelzier. The following pedigree
illustrates this descent, including via Tweedie of
Drumelzier to the Caldecote (or de Caldcotis) family and
their descendants, the Livingstons of Kilsyth.

Direct evidence of the Fraser-Corbet alliance is
wanting. Should anyone have further information or
documentation on this matter, that would be most
welcome indeed.

Cheers,

John *



1 William 'the Lion' of Scotland
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Birth: 1143
Death: 4 Dec 1214, Stirling[1]
Burial: Arbroath[1]
Occ: King of Scots, 1165-1214
Father: Henry of Scotland (~1115-1152)
Mother: Ada de Warenne (ca1120-1178)


Associated with: NN [not married]

Children: Ada (-1200)


1.1 Ada of Scotland
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Death: 1200[5],[6],[7]

illegitimate daughter

'Ada comitissa filia Willelmi Regis Scocie ', witness to a charter by
her husband to Newbottle [TG IX:229[6]]

she founded a nunnery at St. Bothans (now Abbey St. Bathans)[5],[7]


cf. SP III:253[5]
TG IX:229[6]

Spouse: Patrick, Earl of Dunbar (March)
Birth: 1152[4],[5]
Death: 31 Dec 1232[6]
Father: Waldeve of Dunbar (-1182)
Mother: Aelina (-1179)
Marr: 1184[5],[6],[7]

Children: Patrick, Earl of Dunbar (March) (ca1185->1248)
Ada, m. 1) William de Curtenai
Sir William (-1253)
Sir Robert, steward of the Earldom of March


1.1.1 Sir William of Dunbar
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Death: 1253[5]

of Fogo, co. Berwicks.

letters dated 13 June 1213 from King John ordered certain hostages of
the King of Scots to be sent ' so that they may be with the K. at
Portsmouth on the vigil of St. John Baptist instant. ' One letter
ordered
' Robert de Veteripont to have on same day William son of Earl Patric,
a hostage of the K. of Scots ', also brought to Portsmouth.
[Bain I:100-101[8], cites Close Roll 15, John, p. 1, m. 4]

' Charter of William, 2nd son of Patrick I Earl of Dunbar, confirming
the quitclaim by Patrick II, Earl, his brother, to the Prior and monks
of Coldingham of the vill of Swinewood [in Misc.Ch. 741].
Witnesses: Walter de Lindsey, Hervey the marshal, David the marshal,
Bernard Fraser, Roger de Merley, Adam de Paulworth, Thomas de Nesbit,
Master William de Edenham, Master William de Greenlaw, Alan son of Alan,
and many others ' [Durham University Library Archives & Special
Collections: Misc. Charter 785[9]]

' William, 2nd son of Earl Patrick I' [Durham University Library
Archives & Special Collections: Misc. Charter 786[9]]

' On 23 June 1233 King Alexander II confirmed to [Laurence de Abernethy]
that land in the royal castle of Roxburgh quitclaimed by the King's
nephew William, son of the Earl (of Dunbar).' [SP VII:398[5], cites
Adv. Lib. MS. 35.4.16, p. 175]

' Lord William our brother ' ["Domino Willelmo frater nostro"], witness
to charter of his brother ' Patricius Comes de Dunbar ', confirming
grants of lands in Hersil and Laynal to Coldstream priory, witnessed
by ' Lord Patrick our son, Lord William our brother, Lord Robert our
brother ' and others [ " Domino P. filio nostro, Domino Willelmo
fratre nostro, Domino Roberto fratre nostro "] , dated 1232x1248
[Coldstream chartulary, pp. 41-42, no. 57[10]]

cf. SP III:254[5]
TG IX:229[6]
Chalmers, III:367[7]

Spouse: Christiana Corbet
Death: 1241[11],[5]
Father: Walter Corbet of Mackerstoun, co. Roxburgh
Marr: bef 1220[7]

Children: Nicholas, of Mackerstoun [dsp] [5]
Patrick
Walter


1.1.1.1 Patrick Corbet
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of Fogo, co. Berwicks.

' Patrick Corbet, on the death of his father in 1253, granted to
the monks of Kelso his chapel of Foghou with the mill of the manor;
the monks, in consideration of his gift, being held to provide
either three monks or three secular chaplains to perform divine
service in the same chapel. ' [Chalmers III:267[7], cites Chart.
Kelso, 304]

inherited Mackerston, co. Roxburgh and Langton, Northumberland on
death of his brother Nicholas[5]

cf. SP III:254[5]

Children [CONJECTURED]: Roger (->1296)


1.1.1.1.1 Roger Corbet
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Death: aft 28 Aug 1296[12]

of Mackerstoun, co. Roxburgh

' Rogier Corbet.... del Counte de Rokesburgh ', swore fealty to
Edward I at Berwick, 28 Aug 1296 [Thomson, p. 128[12]]

Children [CONJECTURED]: NN


1.1.1.1.1.1 NN Corbet
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evidently, the heiress of Mackerstoun

re: her husband, Anderson wrote:
' Laurentius Fraser, dominus de Drumelzier, possessed the lands of
Mackerston in Roxburghshire. His son, also named Laurence, lived
during the wars of succession,...' [Anderson, II:258, sub _Fraser_ [13]]


Spouse: Laurence Fraser
Father: Laurence Fraser, of Drumelzier (->1296)

Children: Sir William (dsp ->1325) [Conjectured]
Margaret (->1372)
NN


1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Margaret Fraser
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Death: aft 1372[14]

co-heiress of her father

her purparty included Mackerstoun and Yeltholm, co. Roxburgh

2nd wife of Sir Duncan MacDowall[14]


' In the Rolls of King Robert II., Anno 1372, there is a charter
recorded as having been granted to Fergus MacDougall (MacDowall)
of the barony of Macarston, Yetham, etc., on the resignation of
Margaret Fraser, his mother. ' [M'Kerlie, p. 292[14]]

Spouse: Sir Duncan MacDowall, of Garthland

Children: Fergus McDowall, of Mackerstoun (-ca1398)


1.1.1.1.1.1.2 NN Fraser
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co-heiress of her father (or brother)

her purparty included Drumelzier, co. Peebles

re: her husband:
" Roger de Twydyn 'the son of Fynlaw de Twydyn' . Charter from
Robert the Bruce, 12th June 1325. First Baron of Drummelzier,
married a daughter of Lawrence Fraser of Drummelzier. (Original
Tweedie Charters and Writs) ' [15]

' There is confirmation by Robert (Bruce) King of Scots of the
Charter of William Fraser to Roger son of Fynlaw of Twedyn dated
at Glasgow, 12th June, 19th year of reign (1325).
Witnesses: Bernard Fraser, Abbot of Arbroath, Chancellor; Walter,
Steward of Scotland; James, Lord Douglas; Alexander Fraser,
Chamberlain of Scotland, Knights. Thus, the Barony of Drumelzier
was granted to Roger by Sir William Fraser, whose daughter became
the ancestress of the Tweedies of Drumelzier for "a pair of guilt [sic]
spurs or 12 pennies if asked." ' [16]


Spouse: Roger de Tweedie
Death: aft 12 Jun 1325[15]
Father: Finlay de Tweedie

Children: William (-<1355)
James (->1390)


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 William Tweedie
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Death: bef 8 Dec 1355, probably d.s.p.[15]

of Drumelzier, co. Peebles

he evidently d. before 8 Dec 1355:
' Among the Drumelzier writs preserved at Duns Castle are two charters
in his favour, one dated 8th December, 1355, by Robert, the Steward
of Scotland, as King's Lieutenant, confirming to him all his heritable
possession within the Kingdom because he had been received to the
faith and peace of the King by William, Lord of Douglas, as Warden
of the Eastern Marches '[15]


reference to (apparently) another individual:
' William de Twidy was a charter witness in 1370. ' [Kerry W.
Sipe[15], cites Reg. honoris de Morton, II:89]


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2 James Tweedie
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Death: aft 30 Sep 1390[17]

of Drumelzier, co. Peebles

probably a younger son of Roger de Tweedie (Twydyn), and successor
to his brother William, before 8 Dec 1355 [called grandson of
Roger - Buchan III:418 et seq.[18], courtesy Kerry Sipe ]

' In 1362 there is mention of payment of nine merks yearly due from
the lands of Hopkelloche by James of Tuedi and his heirs.' [Kerry
Sipe[15], cites RMS I:130[19]]

' Jacobo de Twedy ', witness to charter of James de Douglas, lord
of Dalkeith founding a chapel at Dalkeith, dated 5 December 1384
[Reg. Honoris Morton II:154, no. 176[20]]

' James of Tuedy of Drummelzier was made her nominee by Jonet
of Graham, Lady of Watchtone, by a document dated 8th February
1389, for the purposes of dealing with the lands of Hartree. '
[Hist. MSS. Comm., Edmonstone, p. 78, courtesy Michael Forbes Tweedie]

" Jacobo de Twedy ", witness [together with Sir William Monypenny,
Sir Nicholas Douglas and others] to will of Sir James Douglas
of Dalkeith, 30 Sept 1390 [Bannatyne Misc. II:105-112[17]]
___________________________

' JAMES OF TWEEDIE, perhaps a son of William, or at least a
grandson of Roger. Among the Drumelzier writs preserved at
Duns Castle are two charters in his favour, one dated 8th
December, 1355, by Robert, the Steward of Scotland, as King's
Lieutenant, confirming to him all his heritable possession
within the Kingdom because he had been received to the faith
and peace of the King by William, Lord of Douglas, as Warden
of the Eastern Marches - this shows that Tweedie must have
been in trouble of some sort - and the second charter, which
is by King David II. on 4th July, 1358, confirms the first. He
was also the proprietor of part of Hopkailzie, and there is a
confirmation by David II. in 1362-3 of a mortification by
Margaret of Monfode, the widow of Alexander of Cockburn of
Stirling, of nine merks sterling due to her by Tweedie from
Hopkailzie for a chaplainry in Dalmeny. On 8th February,
1389-90, he is mentioned in a document dealing with Hartree
estate in the parish of Kilbucho. ' [Buchan III:418 et seq.[18],
courtesy Kerry Sipe ]

Children: Walter


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1 Walter Tweedie
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of Drumelzier, co. Peebles

' Walt'ro de Twidy ', witness to a charter of James de Douglas,
lord of Dalkeith to David de Graham of Dundaff, before 1 April
1370 [Reg. Honoris de Morton II:88, no. 111[20]]

' On the 27th March 1373, the name of "Walter de Tuedy",
"locum tenens Vicecomitis de Peblis" appears in proceedings
recorded in the Exchequer Rolls, and in the same records,
under the date 12th June 1388, we find mention of a
"William de Tuedi" in matters connected with the borough
of Peebles. ' [M. F. Tweedie[21]]
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Stevenson identifies the heraldic seal of one ' Caldecote,
Christiana, widow of William Caldecote, daughter of Walter
Twedy ' [Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[22]]. She evidently
was his daughter.

re: his wife:

she was (according to Wood's edition of Douglas' Peerage] a
daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (d. 1420) as
indicated by the following entry, part of the list of the
issue of Sir James:

' 4. _____, married to Tweedie of Drumelzier. '
[Douglas, Peerage II:267[23], cites " Ib. [Carta penes
Com. de Morton ad An. 1380] D." ]

[note that Wood identifies her as a daughter of Agnes Dunbar.
This is virtually impossible. She was undoubtedly an
illegitimate daughter, and possibly full sister to Margaret
Douglas, the wife of Philip Arbuthnott]


Spouse: NN Douglas
Father: Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith (-1420)
Mother: NN [not married]

Children: Walter (->1435)
Christiana (->1424)


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Walter Tweedie
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Death: aft 19 Jul 1435[18]

of Drumelzier, co. Peebles.

' The next proprietor whom it has been possible to trace is
WALTER TWEEDIE, who may have been a grandson of James, but
it is impossible to say definitely as there is a gap in the
charter records for about seventy years. He granted, on 19th
March, 1426, to his kinsman Thomas Fraser of Fruid, for his
counsel and good deeds, an annual rent of 44s. from the lands
of Drumelzier, to which deed his son and heir, James Tweedie,
was a witness. At the close of the same year, Fraser resigned
to Walter Tweedie for ever all his lands in Drumelzier.
Walter was still alive on 19th July, 1435, when he witnessed
a charter at the Castle of Peebles (Neidpath). It is said that
he married a daughter of Sir James Douglas and his first wife,
Agnes Dunbar. He was succeeded by his son James. '
[Buchan III:418 et seq.[18], courtesy Kerry Sipe ]

Children: James Tweedie, of Drumelzier (-<1473)
Elizabeth
Patrick


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.2 Christiana Tweedie
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Death: aft 6 Jan 1424[22]

' our dear William de Caldcotis and Christiana, his dear wife '
[" dilect(' n'ris Will'o de Caldcot(' 't cristiane dilce spo[n]se
sue "], had charter from James Douglas, lord of Dalkeith [her
grandfather, apparently: but, not so identified] of the lands
of Hutone in Annandale, witnessed by Sir Henry Douglas (brother
of Sir James), John Livingston of Callendar and others, dated
at Dalkeith, 8 May 1388 [Reg. Honoris de Morton II:164-5, no. 187[20]]

' Kyrstiane de Caldcottis ', her heraldic seal is identified on
a charter of 8 Jan. 1424-5:
' Caldecote, Christiana, widow of William Caldecote, daughter
of Walter Twedy. A shield of arms: A saltire and chief, the
latter charged with a star in dexter and two escallops. Legend
(l.c.): KYRSTIANE DE CALDCOTTIS. Diam. 1 3/16 in. Laing,
ii. 158. Reg. Ho. Ch., 6 Jan. 1424-5, two of same
date - Cast. ' [Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[22]]

Spouse: William de Caldcotis
Death: bef 6 Jan 1424[22]
Father: John de Caldcotis (->1387)
Mother: Marion de Crawford
Marr: bef 8 May 1388[20]

Children: Elizabeth (->1459)


1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.2.1 Elizabeth de Caldcotis
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Death: aft 8 Nov 1459[22]

had a third of the lands of Graden, co. Berwicks. as her maritagium
or inheritance[24]

' dilecti filii nobilis viri Willelmi de Leuynston Domicelli et
delict in Christo filie nobilis mulieris Elisabeth de Caldcotis
Domicelle', postnuptial dispensation granted 12 Nov 1421, they
being related in the 3rd degree of consanguinity ["tertio
consanguinitatis gradu" - Stuart p. 453[25]]

her heraldic seal is identified on a charter of 8 Nov. 1459:
' Caldecote, Elizabeth, daughter of William Caldecote of
Grayden, wife of William Livingston of Balcastel (or of Kilsyth).
A shield of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter charged with
three escallops. Foliage at top and sides of shield. Legend
(l.c.): S ELISABETH DE LEVINGSTON. Diam. 1 1/16 in. Laing,
ii. 159. Reg. Ho. Ch., No. 357 (2), 8 Nov. 1459 - Cast. '
[Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[22]]

her arms according to E. Livingston:
' a saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops'
[Livingston, citing seal in Laing, ii. 159][24]

Spouse: William Livingston, of Balcastell and Wester Kilsyth
Death: bef 20 Apr 1460[5],[24]
Father: Sir John Livingston (-1402)
Mother: Agnes Douglas (->1421)
Marr: bef 12 Nov 1421[24],[25]

Children: Edward Livingston, of Balcastell(-<1482)
William (->1481)
Alexander


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* John P. Ravilious

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