John of Gaunt
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Alina
John of Gaunt
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
the throne? Whom begat whom...
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: John of Gaunt
In message of 17 Aug, "Alina" <alinaabedin@yahoo.com> wrote:
Go to:
http://www.genealogics.org
and put 'Blanche of Lancaster' - without the quote marks of course - in
the search box and follow the Blanche who was born in 1342.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Go to:
http://www.genealogics.org
and put 'Blanche of Lancaster' - without the quote marks of course - in
the search box and follow the Blanche who was born in 1342.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Brad Verity
Re: John of Gaunt
Alina wrote:
Dear Alina,
Every ruler of England since Henry IV has been descended from John of
Gaunt. Here is the list up until 1500:
Henry IV, son of John of Gaunt
Henry V, son of Henry IV
Henry VI, son of Henry V
Edward IV, great-grandson of John of Gaunt thru his maternal
grandmother Joan Beaufort, Gaunt's daughter
Edward V, son of Edward IV
Richard III, brother of Edward IV
Henry VII, great-great grandson of John of Gaunt thru his maternal
grandfather John Beaufort, Gaunt's grandson
And on down to the present Elizabeth II.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, --------Brad
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Dear Alina,
Every ruler of England since Henry IV has been descended from John of
Gaunt. Here is the list up until 1500:
Henry IV, son of John of Gaunt
Henry V, son of Henry IV
Henry VI, son of Henry V
Edward IV, great-grandson of John of Gaunt thru his maternal
grandmother Joan Beaufort, Gaunt's daughter
Edward V, son of Edward IV
Richard III, brother of Edward IV
Henry VII, great-great grandson of John of Gaunt thru his maternal
grandfather John Beaufort, Gaunt's grandson
And on down to the present Elizabeth II.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, --------Brad
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Doug McDonald
Re: John of Gaunt
Brad Verity wrote:
What about Oliver Cromwell?
And every ruler of Scotland since James II, through Joan
Beaufort, John of Gaunt's granddaughter.
Doug McDonald
Alina wrote:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Dear Alina,
Every ruler of England since Henry IV has been descended from John of
Gaunt.
What about Oliver Cromwell?
And every ruler of Scotland since James II, through Joan
Beaufort, John of Gaunt's granddaughter.
Doug McDonald
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Gary Smith
Re: John of Gaunt
Grammatically, it should be 'Who' begat whom...(for clarity's sake).
Cheers
"Tim Powys-Lybbe" <tim@powys.org> wrote in message
news:269fd1574e.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk...
Cheers
"Tim Powys-Lybbe" <tim@powys.org> wrote in message
news:269fd1574e.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk...
In message of 17 Aug, "Alina" <alinaabedin@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Go to:
http://www.genealogics.org
and put 'Blanche of Lancaster' - without the quote marks of course - in
the search box and follow the Blanche who was born in 1342.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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Doug McDonald
Re: John of Gaunt
David Teague wrote:
Well, yes, if you insist on "throne". But then there was
Cromwell, who as far as I see (in genealogics.org) wasn't
his descendant.
Doug McDonald
Or you could just give the short answer, which is: everybody since Henry
IV took the throne in 1399.
Well, yes, if you insist on "throne". But then there was
Cromwell, who as far as I see (in genealogics.org) wasn't
his descendant.
Doug McDonald
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Gjest
Re: John of Gaunt
Alina escreveu:
.... and all the Kings of Portugal since Edward I grandson of John of
Gaunt through his daughter Philippa of Lancaster ...
.... and several Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire descendants of
Friedrich III and Eleanore of Portugal, followed by Archdukes of
Austria, several Kings of Spain, Dukes of Savoy, etc., etc..
Francisco
(Portugal)
P.S. If by 'the throne' only the british was meant, please accept my
humble apologize.
F.
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
.... and all the Kings of Portugal since Edward I grandson of John of
Gaunt through his daughter Philippa of Lancaster ...
.... and several Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire descendants of
Friedrich III and Eleanore of Portugal, followed by Archdukes of
Austria, several Kings of Spain, Dukes of Savoy, etc., etc..
Francisco
(Portugal)
P.S. If by 'the throne' only the british was meant, please accept my
humble apologize.
F.
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David Teague
Re: John of Gaunt
From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <tim@powys.org
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: John of Gaunt
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:54:06 +0100
In message of 17 Aug, "Alina" <alinaabedin@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Go to:
http://www.genealogics.org
and put 'Blanche of Lancaster' - without the quote marks of course - in
the search box and follow the Blanche who was born in 1342.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
Or you could just give the short answer, which is: everybody since Henry IV
took the throne in 1399. The House of Lancaster (Henrys IV, V, & VI) were J
of G's direct, male-line descendants, of course; while the House of York
(Edwards IV & V, plus Richard III) and the Tudors (Henrys VII & VIII, Mary
I, & Elizabeth I) had female-line descents from John through his Beaufort
children. Everybody since then, of course, has/had a female-line descent
from the Tudors, or the Tudors & the Stuarts, or the Tudors & the Stuarts &
the Hannoverians, and so on.
David Teague
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David Teague
Re: John of Gaunt
From: francisco.tavaresdealmeida@gmail.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: John of Gaunt
Date: 17 Aug 2006 11:33:32 -0700
Alina escreveu:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
... and all the Kings of Portugal since Edward I grandson of John of
Gaunt through his daughter Philippa of Lancaster ...
... and several Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire descendants of
Friedrich III and Eleanore of Portugal, followed by Archdukes of
Austria, several Kings of Spain, Dukes of Savoy, etc., etc..
Francisco
(Portugal)
P.S. If by 'the throne' only the british was meant, please accept my
humble apologize.
F.
True. And even that doesn't count the present monarchs of Norway, Luxemburg,
the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Spain, and Belgium, not to mention the
former Royals of Prussia (&, after 1871, the German Kaisers), the former
Yugoslavia, the last Tsars of Russia, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, France. .
.. .
David Teague
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David Teague
Re: John of Gaunt
Silly me . . . . I forgot to mention Brazil and the Emperor Maximillian of
Mexico.
David Teague
Mexico.
David Teague
From: "David Teague" <davteague@hotmail.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: John of Gaunt
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:47:22 +0000
From: francisco.tavaresdealmeida@gmail.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: John of Gaunt
Date: 17 Aug 2006 11:33:32 -0700
Alina escreveu:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
... and all the Kings of Portugal since Edward I grandson of John of
Gaunt through his daughter Philippa of Lancaster ...
... and several Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire descendants of
Friedrich III and Eleanore of Portugal, followed by Archdukes of
Austria, several Kings of Spain, Dukes of Savoy, etc., etc..
Francisco
(Portugal)
P.S. If by 'the throne' only the british was meant, please accept my
humble apologize.
F.
True. And even that doesn't count the present monarchs of Norway,
Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Spain, and Belgium, not to
mention the former Royals of Prussia (&, after 1871, the German Kaisers),
the former Yugoslavia, the last Tsars of Russia, the Austro-Hungarian
Empire, France. . . .
David Teague
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Renia
Re: John of Gaunt
Doug McDonald wrote:
He was offered the Crown but he declined it so he was never "on the
throne" referred to by Alina. However, which particular throne (England,
Scotland, France et al) was not specified.
Brad Verity wrote:
Alina wrote:
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Dear Alina,
Every ruler of England since Henry IV has been descended from John of
Gaunt.
What about Oliver Cromwell?
He was offered the Crown but he declined it so he was never "on the
throne" referred to by Alina. However, which particular throne (England,
Scotland, France et al) was not specified.
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A. Sharp
Re: John of Gaunt
Alina" wrote:
Ann:
Isabella of Castile's paternal grandmother was Catherine of Lancaster,
daughter of John [& 2nd wife Constance of Castile].
Her mother's paternal grandmother was Philippa of Lancaster, also
daughter of John [& first wife Blanche of Lancaster].
L.P.H.,
Ann
Can someone tell me John of Gaunt's descendents that ended up being on
the throne? Whom begat whom...
Ann:
Isabella of Castile's paternal grandmother was Catherine of Lancaster,
daughter of John [& 2nd wife Constance of Castile].
Her mother's paternal grandmother was Philippa of Lancaster, also
daughter of John [& first wife Blanche of Lancaster].
L.P.H.,
Ann