ABC Publications site has warning in small type at the bottom of the
page, under the Adobe Acrobat Reader icon the following warning:
"Acrobat files are only searchable where this is stated in the relevant
product information."
Needless to say, the "relevant product information" about the Complete
Peerage CD has much to say but *none* of the blurb carries the warning
"These PDF files are not searchable".
Marilyn Symonds
Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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John P. DuLong
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
Dear Ms. Symonds,
I can appreciate your frustration in finding out that an item you
ordered can not be electronically searched, but, for my needs, this
would be fine. It is not much different than thumbing through the
printed version of the Complete Peerage. I have the set where four
pages are compressed on one. This was a good idea when my eyes were
better, but now I am thinking that a CD version would be grand and would
free up some badly needed shelve space.
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index. Furthermore, if
these files are not locked down, then I can use the full version of
Adobe Acrobat Professional to add bookmarks, comments, etc.
JP
I can appreciate your frustration in finding out that an item you
ordered can not be electronically searched, but, for my needs, this
would be fine. It is not much different than thumbing through the
printed version of the Complete Peerage. I have the set where four
pages are compressed on one. This was a good idea when my eyes were
better, but now I am thinking that a CD version would be grand and would
free up some badly needed shelve space.
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index. Furthermore, if
these files are not locked down, then I can use the full version of
Adobe Acrobat Professional to add bookmarks, comments, etc.
JP
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John P. DuLong
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
Dear Ms. Symonds,
I can appreciate your frustration in finding out that an item you
ordered can not be electronically searched, but, for my needs, this
would be fine. It is not much different than thumbing through the
printed version of the Complete Peerage. I have the set where four
pages are compressed on one. This was a good idea when my eyes were
better, but now I am thinking that a CD version would be grand and would
free up some badly needed shelve space.
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index. Furthermore, if
these files are not locked down, then I can use the full version of
Adobe Acrobat Professional to add bookmarks, comments, etc.
JP
I can appreciate your frustration in finding out that an item you
ordered can not be electronically searched, but, for my needs, this
would be fine. It is not much different than thumbing through the
printed version of the Complete Peerage. I have the set where four
pages are compressed on one. This was a good idea when my eyes were
better, but now I am thinking that a CD version would be grand and would
free up some badly needed shelve space.
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index. Furthermore, if
these files are not locked down, then I can use the full version of
Adobe Acrobat Professional to add bookmarks, comments, etc.
JP
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
In message of 18 Aug, "John P. DuLong" <dulongd@habitant.org> wrote:
<This was on CP>
Agreed that the password is a bit of a pain but it is very short and
does not take long.
I have copied the files for the nine volumes to my hard disc as this
enormously speeds up access. And I also put in a little Volume index
file which I open in a corner of my desktop to give the peers in each
volume:
Vol Families
=== ========
1 Kings and A to Balmerino
2 Banff to Cranstoun
3 Crawford to Falkland
4 Fife to Hyndford
5 Innermeath to Mar
6 Marchmont to Oxfuird
7 Panmure to Sinclair
8 Somerville to Winton
9 Corrigenda and Index
Armed with this I very rarely have to use the Index volume that has the
password.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
<This was on CP>
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index.
Agreed that the password is a bit of a pain but it is very short and
does not take long.
I have copied the files for the nine volumes to my hard disc as this
enormously speeds up access. And I also put in a little Volume index
file which I open in a corner of my desktop to give the peers in each
volume:
Vol Families
=== ========
1 Kings and A to Balmerino
2 Banff to Cranstoun
3 Crawford to Falkland
4 Fife to Hyndford
5 Innermeath to Mar
6 Marchmont to Oxfuird
7 Panmure to Sinclair
8 Somerville to Winton
9 Corrigenda and Index
Armed with this I very rarely have to use the Index volume that has the
password.
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
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John Higgins
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
Only the index volume in the Scots Peerage CD is password-protected - with a
short password. The index volume (#9, which also includes the addenda) can
be kept open in an Acrobat window while opening other volumes in other
windows in Acrobat - thus eliminating the need to re-enter the password
repeatedly.
In response to the originating post of this thread:
While the SP CD (like the CP CD and the vast majority of other genealogy
CDs) is not text-searchable, the convenience of simply having these
resources readily available (and not taking up shelf space or requiring a
trip to the library) certainly outweighs this minor limitation. After all,
the traditional books upon which these CDs are based are "text-searchable"
only within the limitations of any index that is provided (none for CP, for
example).
----- Original Message -----
From: "John P. DuLong" <dulongd@habitant.org>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
short password. The index volume (#9, which also includes the addenda) can
be kept open in an Acrobat window while opening other volumes in other
windows in Acrobat - thus eliminating the need to re-enter the password
repeatedly.
In response to the originating post of this thread:
While the SP CD (like the CP CD and the vast majority of other genealogy
CDs) is not text-searchable, the convenience of simply having these
resources readily available (and not taking up shelf space or requiring a
trip to the library) certainly outweighs this minor limitation. After all,
the traditional books upon which these CDs are based are "text-searchable"
only within the limitations of any index that is provided (none for CP, for
example).
----- Original Message -----
From: "John P. DuLong" <dulongd@habitant.org>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
Dear Ms. Symonds,
I can appreciate your frustration in finding out that an item you
ordered can not be electronically searched, but, for my needs, this
would be fine. It is not much different than thumbing through the
printed version of the Complete Peerage. I have the set where four
pages are compressed on one. This was a good idea when my eyes were
better, but now I am thinking that a CD version would be grand and would
free up some badly needed shelve space.
Would you please tell me if these Adobe Acrobat files are password
protected? This is the case with the Scots Peerage and it is tiresome
to continually enter it when I go back to the index. Furthermore, if
these files are not locked down, then I can use the full version of
Adobe Acrobat Professional to add bookmarks, comments, etc.
JP
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Ye Old One
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC), sysite@swbell.net (Symonds)
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
To put anything in computer readable form and NOT make it searchable
is like mixing a cake and then not bothering to cook it - in other
words a total waste of time and money.
--
Bob.
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
ABC Publications site has warning in small type at the bottom of the
page, under the Adobe Acrobat Reader icon the following warning:
"Acrobat files are only searchable where this is stated in the relevant
product information."
Needless to say, the "relevant product information" about the Complete
Peerage CD has much to say but *none* of the blurb carries the warning
"These PDF files are not searchable".
Marilyn Symonds
To put anything in computer readable form and NOT make it searchable
is like mixing a cake and then not bothering to cook it - in other
words a total waste of time and money.
--
Bob.
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Denis Beauregard
Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:22:43 GMT, Ye Old One <usenet@mcsuk.net> wrote
in soc.genealogy.medieval:
I took many books in PDF format from the BNF (French national
library). For some of them, I know how big they are (some libraries
have a printed copy). So, if I compare the place needed for a
printed copy and for a PDF copy, and then I check if there is some
place on my shelves, then I appreciate having then in the PDF format.
Now, I didn't pay for those copies. Downloading from BNF is free.
But if I am paying for the same thing on a CD-ROM, in particular
for books published long before 1900 with no royalty to pay, I will
feel fooled if I can't search in it.
Denis
--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM
in soc.genealogy.medieval:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC), sysite@swbell.net (Symonds)
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
ABC Publications site has warning in small type at the bottom of the
page, under the Adobe Acrobat Reader icon the following warning:
"Acrobat files are only searchable where this is stated in the relevant
product information."
Needless to say, the "relevant product information" about the Complete
Peerage CD has much to say but *none* of the blurb carries the warning
"These PDF files are not searchable".
Marilyn Symonds
To put anything in computer readable form and NOT make it searchable
is like mixing a cake and then not bothering to cook it - in other
words a total waste of time and money.
I took many books in PDF format from the BNF (French national
library). For some of them, I know how big they are (some libraries
have a printed copy). So, if I compare the place needed for a
printed copy and for a PDF copy, and then I check if there is some
place on my shelves, then I appreciate having then in the PDF format.
Now, I didn't pay for those copies. Downloading from BNF is free.
But if I am paying for the same thing on a CD-ROM, in particular
for books published long before 1900 with no royalty to pay, I will
feel fooled if I can't search in it.
Denis
--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM
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Ye Old One
Re: Re: Complete Peerage CD is NOT searchable
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:30:12 -0400, Denis Beauregard
<denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> enriched this group when s/he
wrote:
Ah! I just put up more shelves - but then I just love the look and
feel of books as well as the information they contain
I've serveral books in both forms as indexes are not always that good
so it is easier to search the text in electronic form and then go to
the printed word.
I agree.
--
Bob.
<denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> enriched this group when s/he
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:22:43 GMT, Ye Old One <usenet@mcsuk.net> wrote
in soc.genealogy.medieval:
To put anything in computer readable form and NOT make it searchable
is like mixing a cake and then not bothering to cook it - in other
words a total waste of time and money.
I took many books in PDF format from the BNF (French national
library). For some of them, I know how big they are (some libraries
have a printed copy). So, if I compare the place needed for a
printed copy and for a PDF copy, and then I check if there is some
place on my shelves, then I appreciate having then in the PDF format.
Ah! I just put up more shelves - but then I just love the look and
feel of books as well as the information they contain
I've serveral books in both forms as indexes are not always that good
so it is easier to search the text in electronic form and then go to
the printed word.
Now, I didn't pay for those copies. Downloading from BNF is free.
But if I am paying for the same thing on a CD-ROM, in particular
for books published long before 1900 with no royalty to pay, I will
feel fooled if I can't search in it.
I agree.
--
Bob.